Frans

Hi all,

After a reading a couple of the questions regarding PR cards, photos
and such I started wondering:

we landed three weeks ago, but I forgot to ask about the PR card, and
I don't remember handing over any photo's except for the one that was
glued to the landing form.

I was under the impressions that the PR cards would come
automatically, without further action from my side? Am I right? Should
I have given or sent additional photos to anybody?

Thanks,

Frans
(landed, but still questions...when will it stop ;-)

David Cohen

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[email protected] says...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > After a reading a couple of the questions regarding PR cards, photos
    > and such I started wondering:
    >
    > we landed three weeks ago, but I forgot to ask about the PR card, and
    > I don't remember handing over any photo's except for the one that was
    > glued to the landing form.
    >
    > I was under the impressions that the PR cards would come
    > automatically, without further action from my side? Am I right? Should
    > I have given or sent additional photos to anybody?

You will need to submit an application for the PR card. Processing of
cases for applicants landed in 2002 is presently under way:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/
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ms1234567

Frans,

As far as I know, all what you have to do is wait....
You should receive your PR card by mail soon.
You said that you had a photo glued in your landing document, so that leads me to believe that you have been given the new "Confirmation of Permanent Resident" form as well as a counterfoil visa on your passport. In other words, you must have received your landing documents AFTER June 28, and the information currently present on the "Confirmation of Permanent Resident" as well as the glued picture will be used to automatically generate and issue your card.

You just needed to provide CIC with your RESIDENTIAL mailing address. If you haven't done so at the port of entry, you can still do that through the internet.

Enjoy Canada.

MS

Frans

ms1234567 wrote in message news:...

    > You said that you had a photo glued in your landing document, so that
    > leads me to believe that you have been given the new "Confirmation of
    > Permanent Resident" form as well as a counterfoil visa on your passport.
    > In other words, you must have received your landing documents AFTER June
    > 28,

That is correct.

    > You just needed to provide CIC with your RESIDENTIAL mailing address.

We did, so hopefully we'll be OK. Thanks.

Currently I'm in the Netherlands to sign the deed for transfer of
ownership of our sold house, and to quit my job. We'd like to return
to Canada asap, but didn't reckon with the time it would take for the
PR card to materialize.
We'd like to be let into the country again, obviously. Would the copy
of the Confirmation of Permanent Resident form be suficient to
demonstrate permanent residency? Not a photocopy, but one of the four
carboncopies that were attached to the original form. Or do we need to
apply for a Travel Document or any other permit?

Frans

vagg

You should have waited for your PR card before leaving Canada. The new Confirmation of Permanent Residence (CPR) paper is not sufficient for reentry. Its clearly written on CPR that it is not valid for travel. So now you need to go to Canadian Embassy in Netherlands to get an emergency travel document which would allow you one time entry in Canada. But as far as I know, its bit difficult to get this document from Embassy and you should have good story to tell them why you couldn't wait just for 3-4 weeks there to get PR Card. All the best.

Regards
vagg

The Wizzard

your best bet is to call the visa post in the netherlands or possibly Berlin
if they are responsible for holland i cant remember, and just explain you
are a PR just landed recently and had to return to holland to sort out
personal stuff and do you have to apply for a temporary travel document to
return or will it be ok becuase you landed so recently.


"Frans" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > ms1234567 wrote in message
news:...
    > > You said that you had a photo glued in your landing document, so that
    > > leads me to believe that you have been given the new "Confirmation of
    > > Permanent Resident" form as well as a counterfoil visa on your passport.
    > > In other words, you must have received your landing documents AFTER June
    > > 28,
    > That is correct.
    > > You just needed to provide CIC with your RESIDENTIAL mailing address.
    > We did, so hopefully we'll be OK. Thanks.
    > Currently I'm in the Netherlands to sign the deed for transfer of
    > ownership of our sold house, and to quit my job. We'd like to return
    > to Canada asap, but didn't reckon with the time it would take for the
    > PR card to materialize.
    > We'd like to be let into the country again, obviously. Would the copy
    > of the Confirmation of Permanent Resident form be suficient to
    > demonstrate permanent residency? Not a photocopy, but one of the four
    > carboncopies that were attached to the original form. Or do we need to
    > apply for a Travel Document or any other permit?
    > Frans

Jim Humphries

Is there anyone at the address you gave in Canada when you landed? The card
should arrive within a few weeks (it seems that many get theirs within 4 to
5 weeks). They could be sent to you to facilitate your return. Otherwise
you will have to obtain a visa from Berlin(I think).
Jim Humphries, former visa officer
"vagg" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > You should have waited for your PR card before leaving Canada. The new
    > Confirmation of Permanent Residence (CPR) paper is not sufficient for
    > reentry. Its clearly written on CPR that it is not valid for travel. So
    > now you need to go to Canadian Embassy in Netherlands to get an
    > emergency travel document which would allow you one time entry in
    > Canada. But as far as I know, its bit difficult to get this document
    > from Embassy and you should have good story to tell them why you
    > couldn't wait just for 3-4 weeks there to get PR Card. All the best.
    > Regards
    > vagg
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

pkjmet

"Jim Humphries" wrote in message news:...
    > Is there anyone at the address you gave in Canada when you landed? The card
    > should arrive within a few weeks (it seems that many get theirs within 4 to
    > 5 weeks). They could be sent to you to facilitate your return. Otherwise
    > you will have to obtain a visa from Berlin(I think).
    > Jim Humphries, former visa officer
    > "vagg" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > You should have waited for your PR card before leaving Canada. The new
    > > Confirmation of Permanent Residence (CPR) paper is not sufficient for
    > > reentry. Its clearly written on CPR that it is not valid for travel. So
    > > now you need to go to Canadian Embassy in Netherlands to get an
    > > emergency travel document which would allow you one time entry in
    > > Canada. But as far as I know, its bit difficult to get this document
    > > from Embassy and you should have good story to tell them why you
    > > couldn't wait just for 3-4 weeks there to get PR Card. All the best.
    > >
    > > Regards
    > > vagg
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

What passpsort do you travel on. If you are from a visa exempt
country you may be able to come on the strength of your passport.

Jim Metcalfe

ms1234567

Logically, I don't even think that it would be difficult for him to get a travel document and doesn't need to provide a good story to the embassy.
He is 100% legal. According to the new law, he needs to spend 3 yrs in Canada out of the 5 years following his initial landing.
So as long as he respects these requirements, nobody can prevent him from leaving and re-entering Canada.
If he left 5 min after his initial landing, he must have his reasons for that, and, since he still complies with the residency requirements, should be easily allowed back to Canada (with the travel document of course).
The reason for which the "confirmation of permanent residency" is not allowed for travel is because CIC wants to ensure that a single uniform, counterfoil type of document is used to enter Canada, which is the PR card.

MM

Frans

Thanks everybody, for your reactions.

I called the visa office in Berlin (The CDN embassy in the Netherlands
doesn't support a visa section anymore). I explained that I left
Canada to come and sign some paperwork for selling my house and to
quit my job (which is the truth) and they told me I should apply for a
Travel Document, which would take them about two weeks to prepare,
plus the time it takes to ship the passports back and forth. They also
told me I should indicate when I wanted to travel back to Canada, in
case it was in the very near future, so they could try in take that
into account. Very friendly.

I hinted at the oddness of not being able to enter Canada with my
Dutch passport now that I've become a landed immigrant, where I never
needed a visa to enter as a tourist, fishing for some loophole, but
the lady's comment was just that if I had waited for the PR card,
there wouldn't have been a problem (in which she was right of course)

Since I'll be flying back at the end of January I have one or two more
weeks to wait with the application to see if the PR cards arrive at my
Alberta address. So far nothing, it's been four weeks, and a few days.
The rest of the family will come one month later so they will probably
be OK.

I've been back in the NL for a week now, this morning I was treated to
20 km of traffic jam....yep, I still remember why I wanted to leave!

Frans

[email protected] wrote in message news:...
    > "Jim Humphries" wrote in message news:...
    > > Is there anyone at the address you gave in Canada when you landed? The card
    > > should arrive within a few weeks (it seems that many get theirs within 4 to
    > > 5 weeks). They could be sent to you to facilitate your return. Otherwise
    > > you will have to obtain a visa from Berlin(I think).
    > > Jim Humphries, former visa officer
    > > "vagg" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > You should have waited for your PR card before leaving Canada. The new
    > > > Confirmation of Permanent Residence (CPR) paper is not sufficient for
    > > > reentry. Its clearly written on CPR that it is not valid for travel. So
    > > > now you need to go to Canadian Embassy in Netherlands to get an
    > > > emergency travel document which would allow you one time entry in
    > > > Canada. But as far as I know, its bit difficult to get this document
    > > > from Embassy and you should have good story to tell them why you
    > > > couldn't wait just for 3-4 weeks there to get PR Card. All the best.
    > > >
    > > > Regards
    > > > vagg
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    >
    > What passpsort do you travel on. If you are from a visa exempt
    > country you may be able to come on the strength of your passport.
    >
    > Jim Metcalfe

vagg

Its just for your information.

I landed in Calgary on 30th Aug, 02 and got my PR card in mail on 19th Sep, 02. One friend of mine also landed the same day but he didn't get his card for 3-4 weeks and then he got a letter telling him that the photographs he supplied don't match PR Card requirements, so he needs to send them again. So he did and got his card around 2-3 weeks later.

Frans

To finish this up:

the PR cards arrived on the 6th of December (after landing on the 11th
of November). So that was pretty fast. One lady called mumbling
something about an incorrect number, but after checking numbers on the
cards and the ones she had on file everything was fine. We never gave
any other photo's than the one one the landing papers, we had no extra
photo's taken, we never had to apply for the card. Pretty much what
the experts had predicted, but that's why they are the experts.

Frans

Canfan

Frans,

Where did you land first? In other words, what was your Port of Entry?

Future Canadian

Frans: Congratulations on recieving the card!

Could you please tell me if you paid the 50$ fee for the PR card during your landing or not?

Thanks.

Frans

[email protected] (canfan) wrote in message news:...
    > Frans,
    >
    > Where did you land first? In other words, what was your Port of Entry?

Calgary

F.