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Old Jul 29th 2002, 7:31 am
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Wij & Wij
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Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of Belgium ,
not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from the european cold
and rain. It's mostly the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside
during the winter and you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5 days
out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan
sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia. Some say that it rains a
lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry? Could you tell me more
about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?

Thanks ! Anne
 
Old Jul 29th 2002, 8:12 am
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Andrew Miller
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It is pretty rainy in the coastal BC, but not that bad east of Coast Mountain range.

Okanagan has in average 320 sunny days in a year.

As for the precipitation - see below some details for Kelowna, BC (in the center of
Okanagan Valley):

Rain - average 298 mm per year Snow - average 101 mm per year

Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 7 Number of days with precipitation
between 5 and 10 mm - 24 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 135

Now compare it to the same for Vancouver:

Rain - average 1,154 mm per year Snow - average 48 mm per year

Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 49 Number of days with precipitation
between 5 and 10 mm - 77 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 166

As you can see Okanagan is almost desert dry compared to Vancouver and coastal BC,
although Vancouver is not as bad as the rest of the coastal areas.

Kelowna is about 385 km east from Vancouver - it takes about 3.5 to 4 hours to drive
there or just a short jump on the plane.

See more about Kelowna here:

http://www.city.kelowna.bc.ca/

and about the entire Okanagan here:

http://www.okanagan-bc.com/

If you are living in Belgium or anywhere in central Europe then you will just
love Okanagan.

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"Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of Belgium
    > , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from the european
    > cold and rain. It's mostly the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much
    > outside during the winter and you can forget all about going horse riding. Also
    > rain 5 days out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This
    > Okanagan sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia. Some say that it
    > rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry? Could you tell me
    > more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > Thanks ! Anne
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 4:06 am
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Joey
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The Okanagan is Canada's only desert with summer temperatures well into the 30's. It
actually looks like Southern California.....The rainfall is very low. As for
Vancouver....I have lived in Vancouver all my life and it does rain here...alot. If
you are planning on moving here be expecting rain. I will admit Vancouver has the
most mild climate in all of Canada (besides maybe Victoria). Some people call it the
"Hawaii of Canada" (I still laugh when I here that)

Vancouver's natural appearance it worth the rain anyday!

"Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of Belgium
    > , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from the european
    > cold and rain. It's
mostly
    > the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside during the winter and
    > you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5 days out of 6 turns to
    > mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan sounds wonderful. I
    > understand it's in British Columbia.
Some
    > say that it rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry? Could
    > you tell me more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > Thanks ! Anne
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 4:33 am
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Jlsl
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Hi,

How diverse Okanagan is? Are there many people from visible minorities? What is the
unemployment rate?

Regards, JLSL


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
t
...
    > It is pretty rainy in the coastal BC, but not that bad east of Coast
Mountain
    > range.
    > Okanagan has in average 320 sunny days in a year.
    > As for the precipitation - see below some details for Kelowna, BC (in the center of
    > Okanagan Valley):
    > Rain - average 298 mm per year Snow - average 101 mm per year
    > Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 7 Number of days with precipitation
    > between 5 and 10 mm - 24 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 135
    > Now compare it to the same for Vancouver:
    > Rain - average 1,154 mm per year Snow - average 48 mm per year
    > Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 49 Number of days with precipitation
    > between 5 and 10 mm - 77 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 166
    > As you can see Okanagan is almost desert dry compared to Vancouver and
coastal
    > BC, although Vancouver is not as bad as the rest of the coastal areas.
    > Kelowna is about 385 km east from Vancouver - it takes about 3.5 to 4
hours to
    > drive there or just a short jump on the plane.
    > See more about Kelowna here:
    > http://www.city.kelowna.bc.ca/
    > and about the entire Okanagan here:
    > http://www.okanagan-bc.com/
    > If you are living in Belgium or anywhere in central Europe then you will
just
    > love Okanagan.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address
    > before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of
    > > Belgium , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from the
    > > european cold and rain. It's
mostly
    > > the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside during the winter and
    > > you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5
days
    > > out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan
    > > sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia.
Some
    > > say that it rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry?
    > > Could you tell me more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > >
    > > Thanks ! Anne
    > >
    > >
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 5:37 am
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Andrew Miller
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Okanagan is as diverse as the rest of Canada. People of every ethnic origin live
there together, unlike in metropolitan areas (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, etc.)
where certain ethnic groups established their own "towns" (like Chinatowns, areas
dominated by East Indians, etc.) within large cities. As for the unemployment rate -
I honestly have no idea.

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"JLSL" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > How diverse Okanagan is? Are there many people from visible minorities? What is the
    > unemployment rate?
    > Regards, JLSL
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > t.net
    ...
    > > It is pretty rainy in the coastal BC, but not that bad east of Coast
    > Mountain
    > > range.
    > >
    > > Okanagan has in average 320 sunny days in a year.
    > >
    > > As for the precipitation - see below some details for Kelowna, BC (in the center
    > > of Okanagan Valley):
    > >
    > > Rain - average 298 mm per year Snow - average 101 mm per year
    > >
    > > Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 7 Number of days with precipitation
    > > between 5 and 10 mm - 24 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 135
    > >
    > > Now compare it to the same for Vancouver:
    > >
    > > Rain - average 1,154 mm per year Snow - average 48 mm per year
    > >
    > > Number of days with precipitation >10 mm - 49 Number of days with precipitation
    > > between 5 and 10 mm - 77 Number of days with precipitation under 5 mm - 166
    > >
    > > As you can see Okanagan is almost desert dry compared to Vancouver and
    > coastal
    > > BC, although Vancouver is not as bad as the rest of the coastal areas.
    > >
    > > Kelowna is about 385 km east from Vancouver - it takes about 3.5 to 4
    > hours to
    > > drive there or just a short jump on the plane.
    > >
    > > See more about Kelowna here:
    > >
    > > http://www.city.kelowna.bc.ca/
    > >
    > > and about the entire Okanagan here:
    > >
    > > http://www.okanagan-bc.com/
    > >
    > > If you are living in Belgium or anywhere in central Europe then you will
    > just
    > > love Okanagan.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above
    > > address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of
    > > > Belgium , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from
    > > > the european cold and rain. It's
    > mostly
    > > > the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside during the winter
    > > > and you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5
    > days
    > > > out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan
    > > > sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia.
    > Some
    > > > say that it rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry?
    > > > Could you tell me more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks ! Anne
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 5:43 am
  #6  
Vladimir Menkov
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In article <[email protected]>, JLSL <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Hi,
    >How diverse Okanagan is? Are there many people from visible minorities? What is the
    >unemployment rate?

I am in Okanagan-Similkameen Regional District, which includes southern 1/3 of
the Okanagan Valley proper (Penticton, Oliver, Osoyoos) and Similkameen Valley to
the west of us (Keremeos). So I'll try to answer your questions based on what I
can see here.

Economy: This is not a particularly industrialized area; the main industries are
tourism (the main attractions being beaches and fruits in the summer, fruits, grapes
and wine in the fall, and some skiing in winter), retirement (retirees move here
from all over Canada, bringing their money with them; lot of condo complexes for
retirees are built, as well as "assisted living" facilities and nursing homes for
those who need that); agriculture (fruits, grapes) and processing of agricultural
products; and the government (it is amazing how many people in this part of BC are
on federal, provincial, or local government payroll, in one form or another; there
seem to be more ministries' offices in Penticton than supermarkets!). There are of
course some other industries -- like a sawmill or two or a furniture factory or a
mobile home factory or a call center (where all those "telephone operators" that
answer 411 calls from Ameritech or Bell Atlantic are!) here and there; but,
generally, it may not be too wise here unless you either don't need to earn current
income from local sources (e.g., you have a pension or consulting income from
elsewhere, or are in the government service), or are capable into going into a
business for yourself (e.g., you plan to by a motel or a restaurant or an orchard,
and you know what you are doing).

Population: mostly Anglos, with a large portion of [mostly well-assimilated, that is
"n-th generation"] people of Eastern and Western European origin. For example, our
current MLA is Mr. Barisoff, and the provincial Premier in the 80th was Mr. van der
Zalm, but I wouldn't be too sure that they could actually speak Russian or Dutch.
First Nations people of course have always lived here, and still do, both on reserves
(there are many Indian reserves in the area, some of which look quite prosperous) and
in town. French-Canadians rarely live here year-round, but you see quite a lot of
Quebec youths come to pick fruits in the summer. There are enough Portugese and
Greeks in Penticton to run a Portuguese sports club and an Orthodox church, and
enough Sikhs to have a Punjabi grocery store, but I am afraid there won't be enough
Jews in town to assemble a minyan, and (while there are Chinese restaurants) the
closest Chinese grocery store is almost in Kelowna, which is a shame.

I have little first-hand knowledge of North Okanagan (Vernon) or Shushwap, but I
would expect the economy and demographics to be fairly similar, except that they
probably have more forest- and timber-related industries.

Central Okanagan (Kelowna), on the other hand, is more metropolitan. They actually
have an "International Airport" (that is, several flights a day to Seattle :-), a
4-year college (OUC, and some people advocate making it into a real university with
graduate programs), a Chapters bookstore (like Borders or Barnes & Noble in the
State). The economy is more diversified; there are even a couple of software
companies.

As to the actual statistics with respect to population composition, unmployment
rates, etc., you should be able to find some at Statistics Canada and HRDC web sites.

If you have some more specific questions, you can email me, or follow up to the
newsgroup.


Vladimir Meñkov, in Penticton, BC. (http-
://www.cs.indiana.edu/~vmenkov
)
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Old Jul 30th 2002, 5:29 pm
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This Okanagan sounds to be a very nice region. My next question was :"where do people
go to work since Vancouver is quite far away?" Then Mr. Menkov mentioned that there
even are 2 software companies. For an ITer it's important. Are there any big
companies who use a big mainframe in the region ? Like big banks or big insurance
companies or big companies who produce something ?

Thanks in advance!

Anne
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 5:31 pm
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Wij & Wij
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Where is Victoria then ? And what is the weather like there ? Anne Tora Or Project -
http://members.truepath.com/toraor/
"Joey" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > The Okanagan is Canada's only desert with summer temperatures well into
the
    > 30's. It actually looks like Southern California.....The rainfall is very low. As
    > for Vancouver....I have lived in Vancouver all my life and it
does
    > rain here...alot. If you are planning on moving here be expecting rain.
I
    > will admit Vancouver has the most mild climate in all of Canada (besides maybe
    > Victoria). Some people call it the "Hawaii of Canada" (I still
laugh
    > when I here that)
    > Vancouver's natural appearance it worth the rain anyday!
    > "Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of
    > > Belgium , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from the
    > > european cold and rain. It's
    > mostly
    > > the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside during the winter and
    > > you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5
days
    > > out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan
    > > sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia.
    > Some
    > > say that it rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry?
    > > Could you tell me more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > >
    > > Thanks ! Anne
    > >
    > >
 
Old Jul 30th 2002, 5:48 pm
  #9  
Andrew Miller
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Victoria is on the southern tip of Vancouver Island and has the mildest climate in
entire Canada. Similar to Vancouver, although little bit cooler in the summer and
tiny warmer in the winter. About 20% less precipitation than Vancouver. And you'll
feel the power of Pacific Ocean there, unlike in Vancouver which is shielded from the
open Pacific by Vancouver Island.

Victoria is a capital of BC and you may find more info and maps here:

http://www.city.victoria.bc-
.ca/common/index.shtml


About 1.5 hours by ferry from Vancouver or about 2 to 3 hours (depending how fast) by
ferry from Seattle. Very fast and convenient commute by seaplanes and helicopters
between downtown Vancouver and downtown Victoria.

--

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"Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Where is Victoria then ? And what is the weather like there ? Anne Tora Or Project
    > - [url="http://members.truepath.com/toraor/"]http://members.truepath.com/toraor/[/-
    > url] "Joey" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > The Okanagan is Canada's only desert with summer temperatures well into
    > the
    > > 30's. It actually looks like Southern California.....The rainfall is very low.
    > > As for Vancouver....I have lived in Vancouver all my life and it
    > does
    > > rain here...alot. If you are planning on moving here be expecting rain.
    > I
    > > will admit Vancouver has the most mild climate in all of Canada (besides maybe
    > > Victoria). Some people call it the "Hawaii of Canada" (I still
    > laugh
    > > when I here that)
    > >
    > > Vancouver's natural appearance it worth the rain anyday!
    > >
    > > "Wij & Wij" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thank you everybody for your very informative replies. We are from south of
    > > > Belgium , not far from the French border. We just would like to get away from
    > > > the european cold and rain. It's
    > > mostly
    > > > the rain that annoys us , because you can't do much outside during the winter
    > > > and you can forget all about going horse riding. Also rain 5
    > days
    > > > out of 6 turns to mud and then a white horse gives a lot of work. This Okanagan
    > > > sounds wonderful. I understand it's in British Columbia.
    > > Some
    > > > say that it rains a lot in British Columbia, though some of you say it's dry?
    > > > Could you tell me more about it? Is it far away from Vancouver?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks ! Anne
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Jul 31st 2002, 6:47 am
  #10  
Vladimir Menkov
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In article <[email protected]>, Wij & Wij
<[email protected]> wrote:
    >This Okanagan sounds to be a very nice region. My next question was :"where do
    >people go to work since Vancouver is quite far away?"

From what I have seen, outside Kelowna, most people probably receive government
checks of one kind or another (ministries' employees, teachers, doctors, police,
welfare or UI recipients), work for "hospitality"/services sector (hotels, motels,
restaurants), or in agriculture and forestry.

By the way, ability to speak French may be advantageous for some federal government
jobs in this country, both civil and military. Not sure about private sector, but
some hotels do like to attract foreign tourists, so perhaps French or Dutch or German
skills may be an asset as well in certain circumstances.

In Kelowna, the business is more diversified, but still, I am afraid that most big
banks or insurance companies are headquartered in bigger cities elsewhere, like
Vancouver or Winnipeg. But yes, some lumber mill or fruit cannery probably has a
mainframe or two to do their business computing, and probably a bunch of PCs as well.

    >Then Mr. Menkov mentioned that there even are 2 software companies. For an ITer it's
    >important. Are there any big companies who use a big mainframe in the region ? Like
    >big banks or big insurance companies or big companies who produce something ?

To see what jobs employers are actually hiring people for, you can go to

http://www.monster.ca

, then to "job Search", and choose "BC-The Interior" as the region to search in; that
will cover the Okanagan Valley, the Kootenays, and Northern BC. Or "BC-Capital Region
and Island" (for Victoria and the rest of Vancouver Island). But have a good map
handy to check the locations; some listings are mis-filed (e.g. Burnaby -- which is
really a suburb of Vancouver, and must appear under Lower Mainland -- occasionally
shows up in the Interior listings, etc.).

There is a site that promotes the Okanagan as a place for high-tech industry to be
located in:

http://silicon-vineyard.com/

but it appears to me as more wishful thinking than reality, so far. Nonetheless,
whatever software- or computer-related employers this region has, they may be
reflected at that site, or at the sites you can get to by using links from that site,
e.g. in the directory at

http://ostec.ca/directory.php

--vladimir
 

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