Questions!!! Important !!!

Old Feb 11th 2002, 8:36 am
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Steadfast
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Hello,

Got some questions for you experts.

I have got my Canadian ROL papers in Oct 2001 with a Validity until sometime in July
2002 for me to land in Canada. I beleive this is the 1 yr limit for your Medical
examinations to remain valid.

Is it advisable to use this timelimit & land in Canada in say June end of 2002 or is
it always "sooner the better" approach that needs to be taken with Canada
immigration matters.

My idea was to basically secure a job in Canada before fully moving to Canada (which
is my true objective). I now live in the US. My idea was to land in Canada sometime
in June 2002, Complete all the formalities like SIN card etc & return to the US for
about 4-5 months & then packup & move permanently to Canada.

Is this a decent plan to acheive? Has anyone done this way before & what have been
your experiences. Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Old Feb 11th 2002, 10:42 am
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Hi:

It is best to take the "sooner the better" approach when determining the expiry of
your landing papers.

It is quite common to land in Canada, and return to settle your affairs, before
moving permanently to CAnada.

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Old Feb 11th 2002, 2:51 pm
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Just bear in mind that the longer you have between your completing the immigration
formalities and actual landing, the more problems you can have on your return.
Remember that while the immigration formalities are termed landing, it actually
includes setting up residence in Canada and that people have been denied re-entry
because their original entry did not include setting up residence in Canada and their
papers expired.

You have all these things to balance off against one another to make your decision as
to the best time to land.
 
Old Feb 12th 2002, 3:14 am
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The above plan is feasible, but it would be important to be able demonstrate that
you have a genuine intent to assume permanent resident status in Canada at the time
of landing. There are consistent reports of those arriving, especially from the
USA, without substantial belongings, or other evidence of such an intent, being
refused landing.

At the time of landing, it should be apparent that you are moving to Canada
permanently. As such, you should be in possession of sufficient belongings and assets
for this purpose. If it appears that you are landing, then returning to the USA, your
landing may be barred.

You may be asked questions such as the following to determine if it is your intention
to relocate permanently to Canada:

1. Have you terminated your employment in the USA?

2. Have you sought a position in Canada? Have you found a position in Canada?

3. Have you arranged lodging in Canada?

The amount of assets and belongings in your possession may also be used as an
indication of your intention to move to Canada.
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Old Feb 12th 2002, 10:12 am
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Hello all,

Thankyou for your advice.

As I mentioned before my intention to move permanently to Canada is sincere.

(1) But the important factor is - how do I convince the Immigration officer at the
port of entry. As you have advised , I need to be carrying sufficient luggage
with me at the port of entry - but because I plan to land by air - I might have
to carry things within airline limits.

Would this be a hindrance. Is it advisable to arrive in Canada via land border post (
though it is very difficult for me as I live way down south in the US).

(2) Also though I donot wish to deceive anyone at the port of entry about my
intentions to go back for a short duration to US & return to Canada permanently,
is it advisable to disclose such an intention to the immigration officer.

(3) Also will I need a RRP to go to the US - considering the fact that my return from
US after the 4-5 months, after intially landing in Canada , will exceed the
Validity dates on my Landing papers.

What is your advise about the things I should positively do to convince the
immigration authorities - during my return - that I will never abandon Canada. It
will be of great help to know inadvance so that I can plan accordingly.

Please share your knowledge on this.

Thanks.

- Steadfast.

David Cohen <[email protected]>
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[usenetquote2]> > I have got my Canadian ROL papers in Oct 2001 with a Validity until sometime in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > July 2002 for me to land in Canada. I beleive this is the 1 yr limit for your[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Medical examinations to remain valid.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Is it advisable to use this timelimit & land in Canada in say June end of 2002 or[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > is it always "sooner the better" approach that needs to be taken with Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > immigration matters.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > My idea was to basically secure a job in Canada before fully moving to Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > (which is my true objective). I now live in the US. My idea was to land in Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sometime in June 2002, Complete all the formalities like SIN card etc & return to[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > the US for about 4-5 months & then packup & move permanently to Canada.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Is this a decent plan to acheive? Has anyone done this way before & what have[/usenetquote2]
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Old Feb 14th 2002, 3:07 am
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Steadfast
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Hello all,

Thankyou for your advice. Could someone please further advise me on a few more
queries that I have.

As I mentioned before my intention to move permanently to Canada is sincere.

(1) But the important factor is - how do I convince the Immigration officer at the
port of entry. As you have advised , I need to be carrying sufficient luggage
with me at the port of entry - but because I plan to land by air - I might have
to carry things within airline limits.

Would this be a hindrance. Is it advisable to arrive in Canada via land border post (
though it is very difficult for me as I live way down south in the US).

(2) Also though I donot wish to deceive anyone at the port of entry about my
intentions to go back for a short duration to US & return to Canada permanently,
is it advisable to disclose such an intention to the immigration officer.

(3) Also will I need a RRP to go to the US - considering the fact that my return from
US after the 4-5 months, after intially landing in Canada , will exceed the
Validity dates on my Landing papers.

What is your advise about the things I should positively do to convince the
immigration authorities - during my return - that I will never abandon Canada. It
will be of great help to know inadvance so that I can plan accordingly.

Please share your knowledge on this.

Thanks.

- Steadfast.

[email protected] (Steadfast) wrote in message
news:<[email protected] om>...
    > Hello,
    >
    > Got some questions for you experts.
    >
    > I have got my Canadian ROL papers in Oct 2001 with a Validity until sometime in
    > July 2002 for me to land in Canada. I beleive this is the 1 yr limit for your
    > Medical examinations to remain valid.
    >
    > Is it advisable to use this timelimit & land in Canada in say June end of 2002 or
    > is it always "sooner the better" approach that needs to be taken with Canada
    > immigration matters.
    >
    > My idea was to basically secure a job in Canada before fully moving to Canada
    > (which is my true objective). I now live in the US. My idea was to land in Canada
    > sometime in June 2002, Complete all the formalities like SIN card etc & return to
    > the US for about 4-5 months & then packup & move permanently to Canada.
    >
    > Is this a decent plan to acheive? Has anyone done this way before & what have been
    > your experiences. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks.
 
Old Feb 14th 2002, 3:07 am
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It is not about how much luggage you carry, it is about many other and more obvious
signs of your intentions. First of all you cannot lie to immigration officer. Second,
you will not get RRP without establishing residency in Canada (landing process alone
doesn't constitute such). You will be asked to tell what your intentions are, what
your status in the US is and what you are about to do about it. If you have any
status adjustment, H1 extension, labor certification or GC application pending then
you may be asked to withdraw such before being allowed landing. Note that US and
Canadian immigration databases are now linked together, so don't lie. You will also
be asked about your current job down in the US and if you resigned from such - a
formal resignation letter with the clear evidence of such being accepted by your
employer will be very helpful.

Note also that you will not be abandoning Canada by leaving shortly after landing
as there is nothing to abandon as you will not have your residence here
established at all in the first place. In such case you may have some problems
with your PR status (if of course allowed landing) even if your absence from
Canada is less than 183 days.

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"Steadfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello all,
    >
    > Thankyou for your advice. Could someone please further advise me on a few more
    > queries that I have.
    >
    > As I mentioned before my intention to move permanently to Canada is sincere.
    >
    > (1) But the important factor is - how do I convince the Immigration officer at the
    > port of entry. As you have advised , I need to be carrying sufficient luggage
    > with me at the port of entry - but because I plan to land by air - I might have
    > to carry things within airline limits.
    >
    > Would this be a hindrance. Is it advisable to arrive in Canada via land border post
    > ( though it is very difficult for me as I live way down south in the US).
    >
    > (2) Also though I donot wish to deceive anyone at the port of entry about my
    > intentions to go back for a short duration to US & return to Canada
    > permanently, is it advisable to disclose such an intention to the immigration
    > officer.
    >
    > (3) Also will I need a RRP to go to the US - considering the fact that my return
    > from US after the 4-5 months, after intially landing in Canada , will exceed
    > the Validity dates on my Landing papers.
    >
    > What is your advise about the things I should positively do to convince the
    > immigration authorities - during my return - that I will never abandon Canada. It
    > will be of great help to know inadvance so that I can plan accordingly.
    >
    > Please share your knowledge on this.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > - Steadfast.
    >
    > [email protected] (Steadfast) wrote in message
news:<[email protected] om>...
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > Got some questions for you experts.
    > >
    > > I have got my Canadian ROL papers in Oct 2001 with a Validity until sometime in
    > > July 2002 for me to land in Canada. I beleive this is the 1 yr limit for your
    > > Medical examinations to remain valid.
    > >
    > > Is it advisable to use this timelimit & land in Canada in say June end of 2002 or
    > > is it always "sooner the better" approach that needs to be taken with Canada
    > > immigration matters.
    > >
    > > My idea was to basically secure a job in Canada before fully moving to Canada
    > > (which is my true objective). I now live in the US. My idea was to land in Canada
    > > sometime in June 2002, Complete all the formalities like SIN card etc & return to
    > > the US for about 4-5 months & then packup & move permanently to Canada.
    > >
    > > Is this a decent plan to acheive? Has anyone done this way before & what have
    > > been your experiences. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
 
Old Feb 15th 2002, 1:25 am
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James
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Hi Andrew,

My ex-employer filed a Labor Certification petition for me in Jul. 2000, and shortly
after that I left that company and joined another company. I began to apply for the
Canadian PR in Nov. 2000.

But I haven't been applying any permanent residency for USA since then, and also
because I changed my job, the previous Labor Certificaion petition rendered invalid.
Will that be a problem when landing?

Thanks,

James
 

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