Questions on education section for PR
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Re: Questions on education section for PR
I'm a Global Transformation Lead within Hewlett Packard. I work in Quality and Service Excellence but my particular skills are Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and years of managerial experience but the real value comes from the mindset and knowledge of all manner of things from team and personal psychology through alternative thinking and into more straightforward quality-related knowledge.
Now, I can't fit that into a NOC category so any suggestions are welcome.
Now, I can't fit that into a NOC category so any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: Questions on education section for PR
I'm a Global Transformation Lead within Hewlett Packard. I work in Quality and Service Excellence but my particular skills are Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and years of managerial experience but the real value comes from the mindset and knowledge of all manner of things from team and personal psychology through alternative thinking and into more straightforward quality-related knowledge.
Now, I can't fit that into a NOC category so any suggestions are welcome.
Now, I can't fit that into a NOC category so any suggestions are welcome.
Okay, my brain fell asleep before. The NOC is not relevant as you are applying with arranged employment.
Do you have a wife/common-law spouse who will be going with you? You can gain points for them in various areas.
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I have a wife but I'm sure that Fragomen have taken all this into account before declaring that I need the 5 points from the two areas. They seem content with what I have proposed from the info on here so we will have to wait and see. They can't apply until AFTER I get to Canada anyway as I won't get my indeterminate job offer from HP Canada (yes, believe it, we are all different entities) until I have my TWP and I won't have that until I land. C'est la vie.
Booking my IELTS tomorrow!
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LOL! Tell me about it! At the other end of the scale is my *actual* internal job title which is MGR1. Equally useless.
I have a wife but I'm sure that Fragomen have taken all this into account before declaring that I need the 5 points from the two areas. They seem content with what I have proposed from the info on here so we will have to wait and see. They can't apply until AFTER I get to Canada anyway as I won't get my indeterminate job offer from HP Canada (yes, believe it, we are all different entities) until I have my TWP and I won't have that until I land. C'est la vie.
Booking my IELTS tomorrow!
I have a wife but I'm sure that Fragomen have taken all this into account before declaring that I need the 5 points from the two areas. They seem content with what I have proposed from the info on here so we will have to wait and see. They can't apply until AFTER I get to Canada anyway as I won't get my indeterminate job offer from HP Canada (yes, believe it, we are all different entities) until I have my TWP and I won't have that until I land. C'est la vie.
Booking my IELTS tomorrow!
Good luck !
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You'll need the job offer letter before you arrive in Canada anyway - it's required for the TWP! Could you apply for the TWP before you go rather than at POE?
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The timing of the offer letter etc is all handled by the agents acting for HP so I'll make sure that it is part of the bundle.
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So, as I started school aged 4 and left at 16 I'll be OK applying for NS PNP ?
Is it 12 or 13 calender years, if it is I'd fall a few months short.
Would a night school book keeping qualification help ?
TIA,
M.
Is it 12 or 13 calender years, if it is I'd fall a few months short.
Would a night school book keeping qualification help ?
TIA,
M.
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I have my start date at 4yrs of age and my finish date at 16 yrs and it is only just over 11 years. I'm relying on my vocational training to make up the extra years.
I'm not entirely clear on what the process is if you cannot prove the dates. My wife, for example, has found her start date but her secondary school "no longer have the records" for her finish date. They subsequently told her that they were destroyed in a fire.
You will also need copies or evidence of your exam certificates from high school as confirmation of your credentials for completing. Just having the years is not enough; you must also have at least one qualification.
Then there is your IELTS...
If you don't have the educational stuff, you might want to get on a course to learn French as that will give you some much needed points to compensate.
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Re: Questions on education section for PR
I would say that you will probably be short as you would have started some months after you turned 4 and finished shortly after your 16th birthday. In any event, my understanding is that you need to prove it, not just tell them it is so.
I have my start date at 4yrs of age and my finish date at 16 yrs and it is only just over 11 years. I'm relying on my vocational training to make up the extra years.
I'm not entirely clear on what the process is if you cannot prove the dates. My wife, for example, has found her start date but her secondary school "no longer have the records" for her finish date. They subsequently told her that they were destroyed in a fire.
You will also need copies or evidence of your exam certificates from high school as confirmation of your credentials for completing. Just having the years is not enough; you must also have at least one qualification.
Then there is your IELTS...
If you don't have the educational stuff, you might want to get on a course to learn French as that will give you some much needed points to compensate.
I have my start date at 4yrs of age and my finish date at 16 yrs and it is only just over 11 years. I'm relying on my vocational training to make up the extra years.
I'm not entirely clear on what the process is if you cannot prove the dates. My wife, for example, has found her start date but her secondary school "no longer have the records" for her finish date. They subsequently told her that they were destroyed in a fire.
You will also need copies or evidence of your exam certificates from high school as confirmation of your credentials for completing. Just having the years is not enough; you must also have at least one qualification.
Then there is your IELTS...
If you don't have the educational stuff, you might want to get on a course to learn French as that will give you some much needed points to compensate.
Loser40, what PNP route are you applying under? Most routes will require post-secondary education - for example, the NS CIS requires at least one year full-time post secondary education. Did you obtain any qualifications after finishing secondary school?
Last edited by christmasoompa; Dec 16th 2010 at 4:23 pm.
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Re: Questions on education section for PR
Hi...
Haven't applied yet, but I imagine it would be under Community Identified Stream... I may have to learn some French in order to get a few extra points.
M.
Haven't applied yet, but I imagine it would be under Community Identified Stream... I may have to learn some French in order to get a few extra points.
M.
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I think you need to research a LOT more! There is no points requirement at all for the CIS, but you must have at least one year post-secondary education. So do you have this?
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Hello again...
Thanks for the info.
No, I do not have any years post secondary education. All I do have done is a 3 month, 1 evening a week, book keeping course, which I passed.
Do you know if it must be a full time year, or would part time suffice ?
Is there an online guide line on what amounts to 1 years post education... the amount of hours studied, courses that qualify (must they be academic, or would recreational be OK) etc ?
Thanks for your help
Mark.
Thanks for the info.
No, I do not have any years post secondary education. All I do have done is a 3 month, 1 evening a week, book keeping course, which I passed.
Do you know if it must be a full time year, or would part time suffice ?
Is there an online guide line on what amounts to 1 years post education... the amount of hours studied, courses that qualify (must they be academic, or would recreational be OK) etc ?
Thanks for your help
Mark.
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Re: Questions on education section for PR
No, I do not have any years post secondary education. All I do have done is a 3 month, 1 evening a week, book keeping course, which I passed.
Do you know if it must be a full time year, or would part time suffice ?
Is there an online guide line on what amounts to 1 years post education... the amount of hours studied, courses that qualify (must they be academic, or would recreational be OK) etc ?
Thanks for your help
Mark.
Do you know if it must be a full time year, or would part time suffice ?
Is there an online guide line on what amounts to 1 years post education... the amount of hours studied, courses that qualify (must they be academic, or would recreational be OK) etc ?
Thanks for your help
Mark.
You'll either have to do a year's post-secondary education, or look at other visa routes, sorry.
If you want to read more info about the CIS and the eligibility requirements, have a look at this...............http://novascotiaimmigration.com/sit...Sept._2007.pdf