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Old Jan 17th 2004, 10:12 am
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Default Processing fees for non accompanying children

Having found the immigration manual for London on their website at the beginning of application process. I endevoured to follow it completley to ensure my application was 100% correct to the best of my ability.

3 months work, many sleepless nights later, it was complete.
Two of our children are staying in UK for university and may follow later.
We included them in application though, and believed we had to pay processing fee for them too. As they needed as much info on them as us.

Posted all documents some 100 pages by recorder delivery in padded envelope well packaged a week ago.

What arrived today? The whole lot back, in thin brown A4 envelope, partly split open.

I nearly had heart attack! All my hard work, all that personal information on all members of my family. passort info, bank statements, police checks.
In the wrong hands this information could be used to open credit card accounts, get jobs, etc?

What had i done to have it all back?
I paid too much money!!!!!!!

As the two eldest are not actually accompanying us we do not have to pay one of the fees.

I had read they send the whole thing back if bits are wrong.
However I would have thought it would have been easier and safer in this case just to send the cheque back or phone and let me know, so I can send another.

I only hope this will be the only thing I did wrong as i will live in fear of all my hard work ending up on some post office sorting office floor!

The only good thing is at least they open the packages on arrival,
even if it is just to get the cheque out.

I envisiged a huge pile of applications mounted up for weeks.
Hopefully, i will never see it again, just a request for interview or medicals. Wishful thinking I believe!
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Old Jan 17th 2004, 2:30 pm
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Unfortunately it is normal procedure.

But I'm afraid that you may have made another mistake.

You stated in your post "two of our children are staying in UK for
university and may follow later" - it won't be that easy. As long as they
are your dependants (under 22 and unmarried or if 22 or over then
continuously since before age 22 attending full time school) you may include
them as accompanying dependants or may sponsor them later. But once they are
out of school they are no longer qualifying as your dependants and will have
to apply for Canadian immigration on their own, providing that they meet all
qualifying criteria.

I don't know what your (and their) plans are but you could have them
accompanying you, even land after getting visas and then return to UK for up
to 3 years to complete school.

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Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"gooding" <member17287@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Having found the immigration manual for London on their website at the
    > beginning of application process. I endevoured to follow it completley
    > to ensure my application was 100% correct to the best of my ability.
    > 3 months work, many sleepless nights later, it was complete.
    > Two of our children are staying in UK for university and may
    > follow later.
    > We included them in application though, and believed we had to pay
    > processing fee for them too. As they needed as much info on them as us.
    > Posted all documents some 100 pages by recorder delivery in padded
    > envelope well packaged a week ago.
    > What arrived today? The whole lot back, in thin brown A4 envelope,
    > partly split open.
    > I nearly had heart attack! All my hard work, all that personal
    > information on all members of my family. passort info, bank statements,
    > police checks.
    > In the wrong hands this information could be used to open credit card
    > accounts, get jobs, etc?
    > What had i done to have it all back?
    > I paid too much money!!!!!!!
    > As the two eldest are not actually accompanying us we do not have to pay
    > one of the fees.
    > I had read they send the whole thing back if bits are wrong.
    > However I would have thought it would have been easier and safer in this
    > case just to send the cheque back or phone and let me know, so I can
    > send another.
    > I only hope this will be the only thing I did wrong as i will live
    > in fear of all my hard work ending up on some post office sorting
    > office floor!
    > The only good thing is at least they open the packages on arrival,
    > even if it is just to get the cheque out.
    > I envisiged a huge pile of applications mounted up for weeks.
    > Hopefully, i will never see it again, just a request for interview or
    > medicals. Wishful thinking I believe!
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Jan 17th 2004, 3:36 pm
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Default Re: Processing fees for non accompanying children

I apprecaite it is their procedure it was just a shame to see all documents fit to burst from envelope.
I since re-read the manual and saw the word "accompanying children only" and realised I did not need to pay.

I was confused slightly about non accomanying children and their rights to come in later.

I forgot to say two of the children are step children.
Usual story eldest , lives with us - female - in love with boyfriend, many friends - due to go to university in September.

Other child lives with his mum, wants to join Navy, may go to uni, would not be able to do anything until he comes of age and can free himself from his mother. He would like to come.

Way I had read it was we could not sponser them ever, even as adults, if they were not included on our application now.
I did not realise that it was until they left full time education.

Realistically we do not think they would come in next two years, due to university and their large family on their mothers side not letting them.

We thought that by adding them, if for any reason they changed their minds, anything happened to their mother, we could get them over to us quicker.

We had thought about taking them to "land" and then them returning, but was not aware that they could come back for up to 3 years. I understood they may change the length of time you had to be resident in the country to keep visa status.

If it is possible for children to continue university in UK and keep visa status, then it might be wise to add them now incase they change their minds, or come within 3 years.

Thanks for your help.



Originally posted by Andrew Miller
Unfortunately it is normal procedure.

But I'm afraid that you may have made another mistake.

You stated in your post "two of our children are staying in UK for
university and may follow later" - it won't be that easy. As long as they
are your dependants (under 22 and unmarried or if 22 or over then
continuously since before age 22 attending full time school) you may include
them as accompanying dependants or may sponsor them later. But once they are
out of school they are no longer qualifying as your dependants and will have
to apply for Canadian immigration on their own, providing that they meet all
qualifying criteria.

I don't know what your (and their) plans are but you could have them
accompanying you, even land after getting visas and then return to UK for up
to 3 years to complete school.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"gooding" <member17287@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Having found the immigration manual for London on their website at the
    > beginning of application process. I endevoured to follow it completley
    > to ensure my application was 100% correct to the best of my ability.
    > 3 months work, many sleepless nights later, it was complete.
    > Two of our children are staying in UK for university and may
    > follow later.
    > We included them in application though, and believed we had to pay
    > processing fee for them too. As they needed as much info on them as us.
    > Posted all documents some 100 pages by recorder delivery in padded
    > envelope well packaged a week ago.
    > What arrived today? The whole lot back, in thin brown A4 envelope,
    > partly split open.
    > I nearly had heart attack! All my hard work, all that personal
    > information on all members of my family. passort info, bank statements,
    > police checks.
    > In the wrong hands this information could be used to open credit card
    > accounts, get jobs, etc?
    > What had i done to have it all back?
    > I paid too much money!!!!!!!
    > As the two eldest are not actually accompanying us we do not have to pay
    > one of the fees.
    > I had read they send the whole thing back if bits are wrong.
    > However I would have thought it would have been easier and safer in this
    > case just to send the cheque back or phone and let me know, so I can
    > send another.
    > I only hope this will be the only thing I did wrong as i will live
    > in fear of all my hard work ending up on some post office sorting
    > office floor!
    > The only good thing is at least they open the packages on arrival,
    > even if it is just to get the cheque out.
    > I envisiged a huge pile of applications mounted up for weeks.
    > Hopefully, i will never see it again, just a request for interview or
    > medicals. Wishful thinking I believe!
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Old Feb 4th 2005, 9:10 pm
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Post Re: Processing fees for non accompanying children

Hi anyone,
I am a new member and a little nervous, and my husband and I made the same mistake as "gooding" when we sent our skilled worker application off to London last friday, this morning received it back with notice of overpayment letter accompanying.
Wished I'd spotted his thread first!
Having dashed straight to the bank to order a new bankers draft for correct amount, which will not be any problem apart from time delay, purely looking out for our best interests as long term customers, they pointed out the process to re-order would cost twice as much as what we had overpaid by, is there no way of just re-applying with original one?
Is there anyone with any advice or is the only way to go getting a new draft and sending off asap??
We don't want to waste too much time as is obvious this is gonna be a long and drawn out process and we haven't even got going yet!! My fault, I know,
Many thanks to anyone offering advice,
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Old Feb 5th 2005, 11:06 am
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Default Re: Processing fees for non accompanying children

New draft only, I know how you feel. We had to pay twice.
But the cheques have and expiry date, and have to be cashed within 3 months. The cheques are typed etc, so cannot be altered, without looking dodgy.

Don't delay get new cheque send it off, and just think of the money as what youd spend on a chinese!!!!



Originally Posted by Bubbley
Hi anyone,
I am a new member and a little nervous, and my husband and I made the same mistake as "gooding" when we sent our skilled worker application off to London last friday, this morning received it back with notice of overpayment letter accompanying.
Wished I'd spotted his thread first!
Having dashed straight to the bank to order a new bankers draft for correct amount, which will not be any problem apart from time delay, purely looking out for our best interests as long term customers, they pointed out the process to re-order would cost twice as much as what we had overpaid by, is there no way of just re-applying with original one?
Is there anyone with any advice or is the only way to go getting a new draft and sending off asap??
We don't want to waste too much time as is obvious this is gonna be a long and drawn out process and we haven't even got going yet!! My fault, I know,
Many thanks to anyone offering advice,
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Old Feb 5th 2005, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by gooding
New draft only, I know how you feel. We had to pay twice.
But the cheques have and expiry date, and have to be cashed within 3 months. The cheques are typed etc, so cannot be altered, without looking dodgy.

Don't delay get new cheque send it off, and just think of the money as what youd spend on a chinese!!!!

Thanks for replying,

Will do asap monday morning, reading through some of the older posts have noticed we could have another mistake with additional family info form, have put husband as applicant on both forms where from what Mr Miller has said, for my info I am the main applicant so will rectify that before re-sending package.
Without wanting to sound too dumb, is it best to re-sort forms into order and label again with paper clips as they have taken all out from first time and ticked some of the forms or just leave alone and send back with what they requested?

Meantime I'll be making my own chinese
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Old Feb 5th 2005, 12:39 pm
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[Leave alone!!!!

Ours too were all ticked or marked in some way. I do not think they were taken out of order, but definatley had been looked at.
Did they send yours back in a simple brown envelope. Ours was and was all ripped open by the time it dropped through the letter box.

I had seperated sections with a coloured piece of paper and type the section heard on the front as well as the numbered tags and they were still in place when it was returned.
They must have reordered them for their system, so just send back recorded delivery, in something more than a A4 envelope like they did.



QUOTE=Bubbley]Thanks for replying,

Will do asap monday morning, reading through some of the older posts have noticed we could have another mistake with additional family info form, have put husband as applicant on both forms where from what Mr Miller has said, for my info I am the main applicant so will rectify that before re-sending package.
Without wanting to sound too dumb, is it best to re-sort forms into order and label again with paper clips as they have taken all out from first time and ticked some of the forms or just leave alone and send back with what they requested?

Meantime I'll be making my own chinese [/QUOTE]
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Old Feb 5th 2005, 12:48 pm
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No luckily it was in a bubble wrap envelope which was just as well cos the dog decided to help the post lady by pulling it through the letterbox!!!!
I nearly had a fit when I saw it but calmed down when I realized no damage was done!!

Originally Posted by gooding
[Leave alone!!!!

Ours too were all ticked or marked in some way. I do not think they were taken out of order, but definatley had been looked at.
Did they send yours back in a simple brown envelope. Ours was and was all ripped open by the time it dropped through the letter box.

I had seperated sections with a coloured piece of paper and type the section heard on the front as well as the numbered tags and they were still in place when it was returned.
They must have reordered them for their system, so just send back recorded delivery, in something more than a A4 envelope like they did.



QUOTE=Bubbley]Thanks for replying,

Will do asap monday morning, reading through some of the older posts have noticed we could have another mistake with additional family info form, have put husband as applicant on both forms where from what Mr Miller has said, for my info I am the main applicant so will rectify that before re-sending package.
Without wanting to sound too dumb, is it best to re-sort forms into order and label again with paper clips as they have taken all out from first time and ticked some of the forms or just leave alone and send back with what they requested?

Meantime I'll be making my own chinese
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