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Old Aug 25th 2003, 6:54 am
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Sidhu
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I heard from someone that it requires only 50 points to qualify for
immigration to PEI. I searched for this peice of information, but all in
vain. This does not seem right - but you never know. Canadian Immigration
has wierd ways to do things.

If anyone has heard about this, please let me know.
 
Old Aug 25th 2003, 7:24 am
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Andrew Miller
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You cannot compare pass mark for any Provincial Nominee program with the
federal selection pass mark of 75 points as each Provincial program is using
completely different selection criteria and points grid. It is like trying
to compare an apple to the monkey (comparing apples to oranges would be too
close).

More - you need a guaranteed job offer from PEI employer to have your
application for Selection Certificate considered in the first place.

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"Sidhu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I heard from someone that it requires only 50 points to qualify for
    > immigration to PEI. I searched for this peice of information, but all in
    > vain. This does not seem right - but you never know. Canadian Immigration
    > has wierd ways to do things.
    > If anyone has heard about this, please let me know.
 
Old Aug 25th 2003, 8:53 am
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Never heard anything like this

Do not belive anything if you do not find it on the CIC site
 
Old Aug 25th 2003, 9:12 am
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Abw
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Check this out:
http://www.gov.pe.ca/immigration/ind...3?number=61449

The bottom line is
50 points + A bona fide offer of paid permanent employment
or
50 points + a minimum net worth of CDN$750,000

"Sidhu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > I heard from someone that it requires only 50 points to qualify for
    > immigration to PEI. I searched for this peice of information, but all in
    > vain. This does not seem right - but you never know. Canadian Immigration
    > has wierd ways to do things.
    > If anyone has heard about this, please let me know.
 
Old Aug 25th 2003, 2:52 pm
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Sidhu ([email protected]) said:

    > I heard from someone that it requires only 50 points to qualify for
    > immigration to PEI. I searched for this peice of information, but all in
    > vain. This does not seem right - but you never know. Canadian Immigration
    > has wierd ways to do things.

PEI is part of Canada. Therefore, they use Canadian immigration
policies. Their OWN selection process is over and above anything CIC
requires.


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Old Aug 25th 2003, 3:24 pm
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[email protected] wrote:

> PEI is part of Canada. Therefore, they use Canadian
> immigration policies. Their OWN selection process is
> over and above anything CIC requires.

Actually, if I understand the system, candidates selected under
the provincial selection processes are exempt from the regular
"skilled worker" point system. They still have to pass federal
health and security requirements, but they do NOT have to get
the normal "75 points".

Information on the "Provincial Nominee" immigration selection
programs can be found online at:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/provnom/index.html

With one exception (Quebec), BTW, a would-be immigrant does NOT
need to be approved under a province's own selection process in
order to settle there after landing. Thus, for example, if an
applicant gets the normal "75 points" and is approved for immi-
gration by CIC, he/she can settle in PEI without having to have
gone through PEI's provincial nomination process.

Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.
 
Old Aug 25th 2003, 10:31 pm
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gee
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:24:01 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Rich Wales)
wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    > > PEI is part of Canada. Therefore, they use Canadian
    > > immigration policies. Their OWN selection process is
    > > over and above anything CIC requires.
    >Actually, if I understand the system, candidates selected under
    >the provincial selection processes are exempt from the regular
    >"skilled worker" point system. They still have to pass federal
    >health and security requirements, but they do NOT have to get
    >the normal "75 points".


And this is why the system is so screw up. You get into one province,
and then as quick as you can go to another. Your wasting my tax
money.

Stay where your at we don't want you, you won't find a job
 
Old Aug 27th 2003, 5:57 pm
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Rich Wales
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Earlier, I wrote:

> > candidates selected under the provincial selection processes
> > are exempt from the regular "skilled worker" point system.

[email protected] replied:

> And this is why the system is so screwed up. You get into one
> province, and then as quick as you can go to another. You're
> wasting my tax money.

I would assume it's unlikely that someone inclined to do this would
manage to pass a province's selection process in the first place.

PEI's nominee program, BTW, is described online at:

http://www.gov.pe.ca/immigration/ind...3?number=61449

From reading this material, it's obvious to me that the process is
not by any means trivial. Amongst other things, a "skilled worker"
applicant under this program needs to get a genuine, formal job
offer from an employer in PEI in order to be accepted. Some people,
to be sure, might go through this process, get a job offer, get an
immigrant visa, move, start work, and then immediately quit and go
to Toronto -- but hopefully someone with such an inclination would
not have the patience to go through the charade.

I also noted that PEI's program reserves the option of getting a
would-be immigrant a temporary work permit "to allow the prospective
immigrant to accept employment and to assess whether he/she and their
family will be able to settle successfully in PEI".

Links to other provinces' special nomination programs can be found
at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled.../contacts.html
I would assume the programs in other provinces are not all that
different from that of PEI.

Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.
 
Old Aug 27th 2003, 6:15 pm
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"Rich Wales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Earlier, I wrote:
    > > > candidates selected under the provincial selection processes
    > > > are exempt from the regular "skilled worker" point system.
    > [email protected] replied:
    > > And this is why the system is so screwed up. You get into one
    > > province, and then as quick as you can go to another. You're
    > > wasting my tax money.
    > I would assume it's unlikely that someone inclined to do this would
    > manage to pass a province's selection process in the first place.
    > PEI's nominee program, BTW, is described online at:
    > http://www.gov.pe.ca/immigration/ind...3?number=61449
    > From reading this material, it's obvious to me that the process is
    > not by any means trivial. Amongst other things, a "skilled worker"
    > applicant under this program needs to get a genuine, formal job
    > offer from an employer in PEI in order to be accepted. Some people,
    > to be sure, might go through this process, get a job offer, get an
    > immigrant visa, move, start work, and then immediately quit and go
    > to Toronto -- but hopefully someone with such an inclination would
    > not have the patience to go through the charade.
    > I also noted that PEI's program reserves the option of getting a
    > would-be immigrant a temporary work permit "to allow the prospective
    > immigrant to accept employment and to assess whether he/she and their
    > family will be able to settle successfully in PEI".
    > Links to other provinces' special nomination programs can be found
    > at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled.../contacts.html
    > I would assume the programs in other provinces are not all that
    > different from that of PEI.
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Anyone who thinks people WON'T go through a charade to get into Canada are
sadly mistaken !

Read all the posts in the group and you will find people who exaggerate
(some wildly) to bend facts and get in.

If there is a quicker route people WILL use it.
 
Old Aug 27th 2003, 8:23 pm
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I would agree with Rich.
If someone has a guaranteed job offer in a skilled occupation from a
PEI employer it would not be very sensible to turn it down in favour
of moving straight to Toronto and a possible job driving a taxi there.

Evenif someone did have plans to move to Toronto eventually, it would
make sense to spend some time in PEI to get the 'Canadian experience'
that would make job-hunting in Toronto a lot easier. The logic of the
scheme of course is that once someone has started working in PEI, made
social connections, kids settled at school etc, he's not going to be
anxious to move on to Toronto. Especially considering the (assumed)
relative cost of real-estate.

Over the years peoples lives do move on and there will be a leakage of
a proportion of PNP sponsored migrants from the sponsoring province,
but I think with a job offer to start with, the retention rate should
be good.


    >On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:57:19 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Rich Wales) wrote:
    >From reading this material, it's obvious to me that the process is
    >not by any means trivial. Amongst other things, a "skilled worker"
    >applicant under this program needs to get a genuine, formal job
    >offer from an employer in PEI in order to be accepted. Some people,
    >to be sure, might go through this process, get a job offer, get an
    >immigrant visa, move, start work, and then immediately quit and go
    >to Toronto -- but hopefully someone with such an inclination would
    >not have the patience to go through the charade.
    >I also noted that PEI's program reserves the option of getting a
    >would-be immigrant a temporary work permit "to allow the prospective
    >immigrant to accept employment and to assess whether he/she and their
    >family will be able to settle successfully in PEI".

It seems to me that only those who don't meet the 75 points pass mark
and other relevant federal selection criteria would be interested in a
PNP - leaving aside the Quebec program, which has a different
application.

Jeremy


    >Links to other provinces' special nomination programs can be found
    >at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled.../contacts.html
    >I would assume the programs in other provinces are not all that
    >different from that of PEI.

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
 
Old Aug 28th 2003, 2:39 am
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Robert
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We will have to "agree to disagree"
Having seen first hand in the U.K. and to a small degree here in canada what
immigrants will do, I think my point is more than valid

Yes if they get a proper job offer in the province they wanted in the first
place maybe they will go through the whole process. But that is not the
groups of people I was talking about !

No disrespect to Rich but i dont think he has enough experience to call this
one. I myself am not 100% but think i have probably had more exposure to
people who would use "any means"

"JAJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I would agree with Rich.
    > If someone has a guaranteed job offer in a skilled occupation from a
    > PEI employer it would not be very sensible to turn it down in favour
    > of moving straight to Toronto and a possible job driving a taxi there.
    > Evenif someone did have plans to move to Toronto eventually, it would
    > make sense to spend some time in PEI to get the 'Canadian experience'
    > that would make job-hunting in Toronto a lot easier. The logic of the
    > scheme of course is that once someone has started working in PEI, made
    > social connections, kids settled at school etc, he's not going to be
    > anxious to move on to Toronto. Especially considering the (assumed)
    > relative cost of real-estate.
    > Over the years peoples lives do move on and there will be a leakage of
    > a proportion of PNP sponsored migrants from the sponsoring province,
    > but I think with a job offer to start with, the retention rate should
    > be good.
    > >On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:57:19 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Rich Wales)
wrote:
    > >
    > >From reading this material, it's obvious to me that the process is
    > >not by any means trivial. Amongst other things, a "skilled worker"
    > >applicant under this program needs to get a genuine, formal job
    > >offer from an employer in PEI in order to be accepted. Some people,
    > >to be sure, might go through this process, get a job offer, get an
    > >immigrant visa, move, start work, and then immediately quit and go
    > >to Toronto -- but hopefully someone with such an inclination would
    > >not have the patience to go through the charade.
    > >
    > >I also noted that PEI's program reserves the option of getting a
    > >would-be immigrant a temporary work permit "to allow the prospective
    > >immigrant to accept employment and to assess whether he/she and their
    > >family will be able to settle successfully in PEI".
    > It seems to me that only those who don't meet the 75 points pass mark
    > and other relevant federal selection criteria would be interested in a
    > PNP - leaving aside the Quebec program, which has a different
    > application.
    > Jeremy
    > >
    > >Links to other provinces' special nomination programs can be found
    > >at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled.../contacts.html
    > >I would assume the programs in other provinces are not all that
    > >different from that of PEI.
    > This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
 

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