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Old Mar 22nd 2011, 12:42 pm
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I've been in Canada through BUNAC since last August and have another working holiday visa lined up for next year through the IEC scheme. I've been offered a permanent position which I start next week and is in the NOC list, (NOC 2171-A I believe, I work as a QA Analyst for an e-commerce firm).

Since I now have a permanent offer of work I hope to apply for permanent residency but I'm confused about the AEO. Do I need one to apply for PR, and if so what are the requirements for getting a positive AEO?
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Old Mar 22nd 2011, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by enbee
I've been in Canada through BUNAC since last August and have another working holiday visa lined up for next year through the IEC scheme. I've been offered a permanent position which I start next week and is in the NOC list, (NOC 2171-A I believe, I work as a QA Analyst for an e-commerce firm).

Since I now have a permanent offer of work I hope to apply for permanent residency but I'm confused about the AEO. Do I need one to apply for PR, and if so what are the requirements for getting a positive AEO?
Very much depends, but if in BC I would favour the PNP route. It means you can easily get another TWP, if necessary, while your application is processed in "and expedited way"

But we need to know what province first.
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Old Mar 22nd 2011, 3:08 pm
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Default Re: Permanent job offer, what is the best route to PR?

I live in Ontario right now, I've heard the PNP route is a bit of a nightmare here though.
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Originally Posted by enbee
I live in Ontario right now, I've heard the PNP route is a bit of a nightmare here though.
A letter from the employer stating that they will hire you permanently once you receive PR, (of course all the other requirements) and you apply under FSW2. As you are already working you don't require an AEO See Section 10 of the checklist. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM5612E.PDF
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That sounds perfect, thanks for that. I have about 17 months left between my current visa and the next one, any idea how long it will take for PR to process from inside Canada?
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You won't be able to apply for FSW2 with an open work permit, you will have to get your employer to get an LMO or AEO. Check the wiki page: http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Quick_...an_Immigration

Since you have an open work permit you may as well get an AEO even if it takes longer so you don't have the stress of the Work Permit expiring before the PR comes through.

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You won't be able to apply for FSW2 with an open work permit, you will have to get your employer to get an LMO or AEO. Check the wiki page: http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Quick_...an_Immigration

Since you have an open work permit you may as well get an AEO even if it takes longer so you don't have the stress of the Work Permit expiring before the PR comes through.
Sorry that is wrong. Please read http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM5612E.PDF No. 10 S/he is working in Canada, requires a letter from the employer stating that s/he would be employed permanently once they become a PR.
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Default Re: Permanent job offer, what is the best route to PR?

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Sorry that is wrong. Please read http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM5612E.PDF No. 10 S/he is working in Canada, requires a letter from the employer stating that s/he would be employed permanently once they become a PR.
With respect, PMM, I would query which part of this you are referring to. If it is the
"permanent job offer approved by HRSDC"
then that means an LMO.
There is no LMO exempt category any more (as there used to be for certain IT jobs). All FSW Cat2 applicants need LMO to apply for PR.
That is required in addition to the employers letter stating that the job offer is permanent.
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FWIW, I agree with PMM - a LMO/AEO is not necessarily required. For instance, the spouse of somebody on a study permit who has a SOWP can apply for FSW cat 2 without needing a LMO/AEO, or somebody on a NAFTA work permit, or post-graduate work permit, or intra-company transfer TWP etc. These are all LMO exempt.

IIRC, the only thing that is important about FSW Cat 2 is that the work permit will still be valid when PR is issued, it can't expire in the interim.



Edit: just checked the operational manual, and it says:

temporary work permit holders under R205(c)(ii), such as post-graduates and spouses/commonlaw
partners of temporary skilled workers/foreign students, are now eligible to apply for arranged
employment points under R82(2)(b);

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Wow... thats completely different to what I thought. So IEC Work permits can be used for FSW2? That just doesn't feel quite right, especially since my FSW2 application was initially rejected on the grounds that they thought my Job Offer wasn't HRSDC approved.

Originally Posted by christmasoompa
FWIW, I agree with PMM - a LMO/AEO is not necessarily required. For instance, the spouse of somebody on a study permit who has a SOWP can apply for FSW cat 2 without needing a LMO/AEO, or somebody on a NAFTA work permit, or post-graduate work permit, or intra-company transfer TWP etc. These are all LMO exempt.

IIRC, the only thing that is important about FSW Cat 2 is that the work permit will still be valid when PR is issued, it can't expire in the interim.



Edit: just checked the operational manual, and it says:

temporary work permit holders under R205(c)(ii), such as post-graduates and spouses/commonlaw
partners of temporary skilled workers/foreign students, are now eligible to apply for arranged
employment points under R82(2)(b);
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Default Re: Permanent job offer, what is the best route to PR?

Hi there,
Im confused about this. I am on a postgraduate work permit and have been working on my permanent job for a year (dint have to get LMO as my workpermit was exempt)
Now Im applying for PR-my work permit expires July 2011 -only 3 months left so will definately expire before PR is issued
Should I go ahead and apply without an AEO, and just include my employers offer letter and a letter saying that I will still have the permanent job if I get PR My employer will not apply for LMO or AEO
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I'm afraid I would strongly disagree. The IEC permit is issued under 205(b) of the Regulations. Permits issued under 205(b) do not qualify under Regulation 82(2) as a TWP acceptable for use in a PR application.
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Originally Posted by thewirediva
Now Im applying for PR-my work permit expires July 2011 -only 3 months left so will definately expire before PR is issued
Sorry, but I don't think you will qualify then. From the CIC website:

If you are currently working in Canada:

•your current employer must have made an offer to give you a permanent job if you are accepted as a federal skilled worker, and
your temporary work permit must be valid both when you apply for a permanent resident visa and when the visa is issued.

Could be wrong, but I can't see how you would qualify as it won't be valid when PR is issued. Unless another one would do if you can get a new one? Hopefully PMM will see this thread and comment - he's the pro!

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I am particularly interested in this! Could be relevant to my circumstances!
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Originally Posted by BTJ
I'm afraid I would strongly disagree. The IEC permit is issued under 205(b) of the Regulations. Permits issued under 205(b) do not qualify under Regulation 82(2) as a TWP acceptable for use in a PR application.
Hi there, is this documented anywhere? Thanks
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