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Old Jun 23rd 2011, 6:41 am
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Hi guys, I am new and really need some help, maybe you guys can help me

I am going to apply for Perm. Res ASAP. Here is my current situation,

I have 1 year 2 months work experience in a Highly Skilled IT position - I am a Forensic Security Analyst.

I have a job Offer for a 1 year position in a similar role. I currently have a BUNAC work permit for that 1 year.

My questions are -
- Is this job offer enough to apply for PR?
- What is the PR Processing time?
- Do I need an LMO (Labor Market Opinion) to be able to get PR?

I know their are different classes to PR applications and I have read all of it, and frankly, I am confused. I want to apply for PR as soon as possible, as I have a really good job offer from a really good company, who are unwilling to hire me unless I can secure PR (Which I feel is unfair, but whatevs).

If anyone has applied recently, solo though the worker class, any type of information you have or even tips or tricks or experiences, would really help me out.

I dunno if it counts for anything, but I am 24, from Scotland, Female, and have 2 Master's degrees and 1 Bachelors in Engineering.

I did the self-assessment test and I scored 83. That's a pass. but I still have my doubts.

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Originally Posted by scottyxx
Hi guys, I am new and really need some help, maybe you guys can help me

I am going to apply for Perm. Res ASAP. Here is my current situation,

I have 1 year 2 months work experience in a Highly Skilled IT position - I am a Forensic Security Analyst.

I have a job Offer for a 1 year position in a similar role. I currently have a BUNAC work permit for that 1 year.

My questions are -
- Is this job offer enough to apply for PR?
- What is the PR Processing time?
- Do I need an LMO (Labor Market Opinion) to be able to get PR?

I know their are different classes to PR applications and I have read all of it, and frankly, I am confused. I want to apply for PR as soon as possible, as I have a really good job offer from a really good company, who are unwilling to hire me unless I can secure PR (Which I feel is unfair, but whatevs).

If anyone has applied recently, solo though the worker class, any type of information you have or even tips or tricks or experiences, would really help me out.

I dunno if it counts for anything, but I am 24, from Scotland, Female, and have 2 Master's degrees and 1 Bachelors in Engineering.
1. No, as your work permit is issued under Bunac R205(b) of the regulations you require an approved AEO from HRSDC to apply under FSW2 (job offer)
2. If your employer was able to get a LMO approved and you obtained a new closed work permit under the LMO. It the employer then gave you a written job offer you could then apply under FSW2. I think that an LMO is going to be difficult to obtain, as you have to assume that there are Canadians/PRs in your field with more experience.
3. Your employer may be willing to go through the PNP process, but it depends on the Province.
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1. No, as your work permit is issued under Bunac R205(b) of the regulations you require an approved AEO from HRSDC to apply under FSW2 (job offer)
2. If your employer was able to get a LMO approved and you obtained a new closed work permit under the LMO. It the employer then gave you a written job offer you could then apply under FSW2. I think that an LMO is going to be difficult to obtain, as you have to assume that there are Canadians/PRs in your field with more experience.
3. Your employer may be willing to go through the PNP process, but it depends on the Province.
Thanks!

Well They did advertise the job and did interview people and they decided that I was the best candidate, but they want me to start ASAP and given the amount of money I paid for the BUNAC work permit AND that I have a week until I start, it seems unlikely that I can get an LMO.

This sucks as the only reason I took the job was to try and get PR, I am never gonna get a job to offer me PR, even though they could easily do it, but they wont.


Also what is PNP....I am in Ontario,

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Thanks!

Well They did advertise the job and did interview people and they decided that I was the best candidate, but they want me to start ASAP and given the amount of money I paid for the BUNAC work permit AND that I have a week until I start, it seems unlikely that I can get an LMO.

This sucks as the only reason I took the job was to try and get PR, I am never gonna get a job to offer me PR, even though they could easily do it, but they wont.


Also what is PNP....I am in Ontario,
See: http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/index.htm
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From what I understand this is going to need forms filled in my my employer, which isn't gonna happen from HR.
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So in reality what is my best option right now? I thought I understood this process but clearly I do not. Should I just cut and run and go back to the Uk?
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Sorry for spamming, but I called CIC, and the woman said that the "Skilled Worker" application is based purely on points and is not tied to my Canadian experience, only my education and total experience, and if I make more than 67 points in the test, I qualify.
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So in reality what is my best option right now? I thought I understood this process but clearly I do not. Should I just cut and run and go back to the Uk?
use your BUNAC visa to go over start work and apply for PR. I'm in BC so not sure what the PNP process is for Ontario but your company can do all this once you start working. I did the same, came over on 1 yr bunac didn't want to go back to UK and my company were desperate to keep me so am now applying for PR through PNP (provincial nominee program). Look at the link PMM posted for you explains the process for Ontario. TBH you are in a good postion here you have a visa allowing you to work anywhere and a job offfer, there are sooo many people on this forum that have to look for jobs and then go through the lmo (which isn't always successfull) just to be able to get a foot in the door.

You can also apply for a 2nd year Bunac too now so worst comes to worse you can apply for another one next yr if your PR hasn't been processed by then.
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use your BUNAC visa to go over start work and apply for PR. I'm in BC so not sure what the PNP process is for Ontario but your company can do all this once you start working. I did the same, came over on 1 yr bunac didn't want to go back to UK and my company were desperate to keep me so am now applying for PR through PNP (provincial nominee program). Look at the link PMM posted for you explains the process for Ontario. TBH you are in a good postion here you have a visa allowing you to work anywhere and a job offfer, there are sooo many people on this forum that have to look for jobs and then go through the lmo (which isn't always successfull) just to be able to get a foot in the door.

You can also apply for a 2nd year Bunac too now so worst comes to worse you can apply for another one next yr if your PR hasn't been processed by then.

Thanks! I like to have a plan! I tend to get worried easily, and given that my previous job in Canada was an internship, I was being paid less than minimum wage, so I have no money to pay for flights back and forward. If the PNP is relatively painless, and I can work while it is being done, my company might go for that. I will need to read more when I am not SOOOOO confused.
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Sorry for spamming, but I called CIC, and the woman said that the "Skilled Worker" application is based purely on points and is not tied to my Canadian experience, only my education and total experience, and if I make more than 67 points in the test, I qualify.
And that's why *nobody* should ever listen to anything that CIC tell them over the phone! You probably just spoke to a call centre worker with no immigration knowledge, who was reading off a script. For FSW, you need at least 67 points and either a year's experience in a job on 'the list' of eligible occupations or a job offer approved by HRSDC.

As PMM said, because your job offer has not yet been approved by HRSDC (you'd need an AEO or LMO to show it has been), you cannot apply as FSW.

So you need to convince your employer to either apply for a LMO, or PNP for you.

Good luck!

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