NOC Occupation - Grey Area

Old Apr 24th 2009, 9:20 pm
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How can one be sure that one 's personal classification of occupation as per NOC list will match the CIC 's interpretation?

Are there several rejections at second stage of FSW Cat 1 updated PR process due to occupation claimed by applicant not matching the case officer's interpretation - a very greyish area ...

...several occupations are very closely related, yet different requirements to classify one's work experience under.

Would like to closely track second stage rejections at local consulate and learn from others experiences
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I don't see how it's a grey area to be honest - either you meet the criteria, or you don't!

If you can say that you perform most or all of the 'main duties' listed in the description (and can provide proof of that) then there should be no problem.

If you only do a few or none of the 'main duties', then it's likely that your application would be rejected.

As an example, my husbands job matches several NOC codes - but one is much more appropriate than the others, and I would think it's the same for most people.

Have you actually applied under FSW?
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agreed, all you have to do is make sure your experience and duties match the fairly loose NOC code descriptions....it's easy to tailor

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=0213
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Originally Posted by spaceace
agreed, all you have to do is make sure your experience and duties match the fairly loose NOC code descriptions....it's easy to tailor

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=0213
Thanks for your replies.

Does the work experience/reference letters need to mention the exact occupation name as per NOC list?

My work history has been mix of contract and permanent jobs in IT sector.

All blue chips and Fortune 500 firms - however I have served in a managerial role for about a year only for one company - QA Manager

Other titles include:

Project Leader
Senior Technical Specialist
Infrastructure Specialist
Systems Analyst

Also in contract based jobs, it is the role that is mentioned - no official designation for contractors unlike permanent employees - however contractors can make twice as much money as permanent employees doing the same job.

Can I try NOC code 0213?
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My application doesn't mention anywhere the job title of 'Computer and Information Systems Manager', but my management experience reference letter DOES match the main duties very very closely...I think that is what they are looking for, not the job title.

My take is, make it as easy as possible for them. Make the job duties match, as long as you have proof that you have the relevant experience that matches the NOC code without having them to work it out or interpret it themselves, then it should be a no brainer.....just imagine how many of these they must process, if your application is a good match then I can't see them having a problem with it.

But don't take my word for it, I've not been approved at state 2 yet.

As for your job titles;
QA Manager
Project Leader

I don't see any problem with them, as long as you can get a reference confirming the duties as per NOC code.
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Originally Posted by spaceace
My application doesn't mention anywhere the job title of 'Computer and Information Systems Manager', but my management experience reference letter DOES match the main duties very very closely...I think that is what they are looking for, not the job title.

My take is, make it as easy as possible for them. Make the job duties match, as long as you have proof that you have the relevant experience that matches the NOC code without having them to work it out or interpret it themselves, then it should be a no brainer.....just imagine how many of these they must process, if your application is a good match then I can't see them having a problem with it.

But don't take my word for it, I've not been approved at state 2 yet.

As for your job titles;
QA Manager
Project Leader

I don't see any problem with them, as long as you can get a reference confirming the duties as per NOC code.
If you receive a request for medical or police certificates, you have cleared stage 2, otherwise you receive all the documents back and also a possible refund of processing fee - not sure about refund at stage 2.

Kindly keep us updated - whatever be the outcome.

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