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Old Sep 6th 2003, 2:43 am
  #1  
Barnabé
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Default New-born child / double nationality / travel to Canada

Hello,

I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and we've just
had a baby
We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to travel to
Canada and stay there?
We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.

Thanx
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 3:54 am
  #2  
The Wizzard
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If the baby's mother is Canadian then the baby is Canadian. Just take
the proof to the embassy and get the baby a Citizenship card. I don't
think you have to wait until the baby has a Canadian passport i think
the french passport and a Citizenship card to prove citizenship would be
enough. I think you need some proof though, i recall when i was re
entering Canada a few months ago the couple in front were Canadian
citizens but had chosen to travel on their British passports, however
the customs officer demanded proof of their Canadian citizenship if they
wanted to enter as citizens (you cant enter as a visitor if you are a
cnadian citizen) and while they man had a citizenship card in his wallet
his wife had nothing and coudln't prove she also held Canadian
citizenship and they had to go off to immigration to try and prove it etc.


Barnabé wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and we've just
    > had a baby
    > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to travel to
    > Canada and stay there?
    > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    >
    > Thanx
    >
    >
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 6:37 am
  #3  
Rogers News
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I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on the
French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.

Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only reason
you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage, school
registration, work, etc.

You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in France --
it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French papers
are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it will be
difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the process
there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes about 6
months to complete (ours only took 3 months).

Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you the
necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html

BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very helpful.

Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.



Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
"Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and we've
just
    > had a baby
    > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to travel
to
    > Canada and stay there?
    > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    > Thanx
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 7:08 am
  #4  
Barnabé
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Thanks for your answer.
Unfortunately it takes up to 9 months to get the proof of citizenship from
the ambassy ((

By the way, it would not be very difficult to prove the baby's citizenship
to the customs,
so why not take the chance?!

"The Wizzard" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message
de news:[email protected]...
    > If the baby's mother is Canadian then the baby is Canadian. Just take
    > the proof to the embassy and get the baby a Citizenship card. I don't
    > think you have to wait until the baby has a Canadian passport i think
    > the french passport and a Citizenship card to prove citizenship would be
    > enough. I think you need some proof though, i recall when i was re
    > entering Canada a few months ago the couple in front were Canadian
    > citizens but had chosen to travel on their British passports, however
    > the customs officer demanded proof of their Canadian citizenship if they
    > wanted to enter as citizens (you cant enter as a visitor if you are a
    > cnadian citizen) and while they man had a citizenship card in his wallet
    > his wife had nothing and coudln't prove she also held Canadian
    > citizenship and they had to go off to immigration to try and prove it etc.
    > Barnabé wrote:
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and we've
just
    > > had a baby
    > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to travel
to
    > > Canada and stay there?
    > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    > >
    > > Thanx
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 10:12 am
  #5  
Barnabé
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The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only an
answering machine.

"Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
    > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on the
    > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only reason
    > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage, school
    > registration, work, etc.
    > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in France --
    > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French papers
    > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it will be
    > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the process
    > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes about 6
    > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you the
    > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very helpful.
    > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and we've
    > just
    > > had a baby
    > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to travel
    > to
    > > Canada and stay there?
    > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    > >
    > > Thanx
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 12:18 pm
  #6  
Jim Humphries
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You will have to go to the embassy consular section in any case to prove the
baby's citizenship, or write them if you have time.
--
Jim Humphries, former visa officer
"Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only an
    > answering machine.
    > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on the
    > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > >
    > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
reason
    > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
school
    > > registration, work, etc.
    > >
    > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
France --
    > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
papers
    > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it will
be
    > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
process
    > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes about 6
    > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > >
    > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you the
    > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > >
    > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > >
    > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
helpful.
    > >
    > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hello,
    > > >
    > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and
we've
    > > just
    > > > had a baby
    > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to
travel
    > > to
    > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    > > >
    > > > Thanx
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 6th 2003, 12:39 pm
  #7  
Nd
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I forgot to tell you that I did the process all by email (sent forms in by
snail mail):

[email protected]

They responded to all enquiries within 24 hours. Their consular office
should also respond:

Telephone: 01.44.43.29.02
Fax: 01.44.43.29.86
Phone reception: 9:00-12:00 2:00-4:30

We applied May 15 2003 and got the certificate of citizenship at the end of
August 2003. About 15 weeks total. At the end of June they sent a letter
stating that everything was OK and that it would take 2 or 3 months longer.

All applications from outside of Canada go to Sydney, Nova Scotia and are
usually processed quickly. The consulate will do you the favour of checking
over your application to make sure you got everything OK before sending it
out to Sydney. You can put either an address in Canada or France to receive
the certificate. We came to Canada with our two children and no
certificates and had no problems with customs -- as long as they have valid
passports, there will be no hassles at customs.

Keep copies of the process and the emails from the consulate -- they'll be
sufficient proof for getting provincial health care coverage if the process
is delayed for any reason. I showed them the letter from June and I got the
3 months waiting period for provincial health insurance waived -- that's
Ontario, I'm not sure about Quebec.

I hope this helps and again don't worry about it, you baby is already
Canadian and this is a mere formality.





"Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only an
    > answering machine.
    > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on the
    > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > >
    > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
reason
    > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
school
    > > registration, work, etc.
    > >
    > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
France --
    > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
papers
    > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it will
be
    > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
process
    > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes about 6
    > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > >
    > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you the
    > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > >
    > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > >
    > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
helpful.
    > >
    > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hello,
    > > >
    > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and
we've
    > > just
    > > > had a baby
    > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to
travel
    > > to
    > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens laws.
    > > >
    > > > Thanx
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 7th 2003, 1:51 am
  #8  
Barnabé
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Thanks a lot for your answer, it's great to get answers like yours.
You must know that I am on an immigration process to move to Quebec, that's
why I have a lot of questions about papers and all the administrative stuff.
I still have to send my application forms to the ambassy, bacause I have
waited for the baby to be born. Now that he is born, I can activate the
process.
I have a few others questions:
- to get the certificate of citizenship, several documents are required, and
amongst them, a proof that one of the parents is citizen of Canada. The
proof can be either a certificate of citizenship, or a birth certificate. My
girlfriend only has a birth certificate, but it is dated earlier than Jan
1st 1994, and for this reason, the ambassy may ask us for other proofs. What
documents did you send with the application form?
- photos are required with the application form. The baby is still very
young, and his face will change a lot in the coming months and years. How
long will the certificate of citizenship be available?
- we will then ask for a passport : do you how long it takes to receive it?

Thanks again for your time and answers.



"ND" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
    > I forgot to tell you that I did the process all by email (sent forms in by
    > snail mail):
    > [email protected]
    > They responded to all enquiries within 24 hours. Their consular office
    > should also respond:
    > Telephone: 01.44.43.29.02
    > Fax: 01.44.43.29.86
    > Phone reception: 9:00-12:00 2:00-4:30
    > We applied May 15 2003 and got the certificate of citizenship at the end
of
    > August 2003. About 15 weeks total. At the end of June they sent a letter
    > stating that everything was OK and that it would take 2 or 3 months
longer.
    > All applications from outside of Canada go to Sydney, Nova Scotia and are
    > usually processed quickly. The consulate will do you the favour of
checking
    > over your application to make sure you got everything OK before sending it
    > out to Sydney. You can put either an address in Canada or France to
receive
    > the certificate. We came to Canada with our two children and no
    > certificates and had no problems with customs -- as long as they have
valid
    > passports, there will be no hassles at customs.
    > Keep copies of the process and the emails from the consulate -- they'll be
    > sufficient proof for getting provincial health care coverage if the
process
    > is delayed for any reason. I showed them the letter from June and I got
the
    > 3 months waiting period for provincial health insurance waived -- that's
    > Ontario, I'm not sure about Quebec.
    > I hope this helps and again don't worry about it, you baby is already
    > Canadian and this is a mere formality.
    > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only an
    > > answering machine.
    > >
    > > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on the
    > > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > > >
    > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
    > reason
    > > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
    > school
    > > > registration, work, etc.
    > > >
    > > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
    > France --
    > > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
    > papers
    > > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it will
    > be
    > > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
    > process
    > > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes about
6
    > > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > > >
    > > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you the
    > > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > > >
    > > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > > >
    > > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
    > helpful.
    > > >
    > > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Hello,
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and
    > we've
    > > > just
    > > > > had a baby
    > > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to
    > travel
    > > > to
    > > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens
laws.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanx
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 7th 2003, 5:38 pm
  #9  
Nd
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Proof that one of the parents is citizen... my birth certificate card was
sufficient, but I also included my passport to have a picture ID. The date
on the Canadian citizen's birth certificate is irrelevant... the consulate
will tell you what you need -- contact them via email and they will send you
a list of things you need or answer the questions quickly.

I sent my children's birth certificates and my marriage certificate, but
again, they will tell you want to send. They "pre-approve" the paperwork in
France at the Canadian consulate before it is sent to Canada to speed up the
process... if there is something missing, they will contact you before
shipping the application to Canada... you cannot send the request directly
to Canada and if you do the process later from Canada it will be much more
difficult.

The consulate will also tell you about the photos (special size, signed on
back, etc.) The card does not have an expiry date on it and is probably
valid for the life of the citizen. If it is the sole mean of identification
for your child, they may want to update the picture before reaching
university, but you're really just worrying too much.

My children don't have Canadian passports yet and I only plan to get them
when I need to travel. I imagine they will take a few days or weeks
depending on how you have them done. Your child can travel to Canada and
stay here as long as he/she wants with his/her French passport (as long as
you have submitted the application to the consulate in France). Customs
officials never question babies or toddlers and even if they did, the truth
would suffice.

If you ask for a Canadian passport for your child, you would need the
citizenship certificate first. BUT again, just use a French passport for
your child if you're in a hurry to get over here.



"Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thanks a lot for your answer, it's great to get answers like yours.
    > You must know that I am on an immigration process to move to Quebec,
that's
    > why I have a lot of questions about papers and all the administrative
stuff.
    > I still have to send my application forms to the ambassy, bacause I have
    > waited for the baby to be born. Now that he is born, I can activate the
    > process.
    > I have a few others questions:
    > - to get the certificate of citizenship, several documents are required,
and
    > amongst them, a proof that one of the parents is citizen of Canada. The
    > proof can be either a certificate of citizenship, or a birth certificate.
My
    > girlfriend only has a birth certificate, but it is dated earlier than Jan
    > 1st 1994, and for this reason, the ambassy may ask us for other proofs.
What
    > documents did you send with the application form?
    > - photos are required with the application form. The baby is still very
    > young, and his face will change a lot in the coming months and years. How
    > long will the certificate of citizenship be available?
    > - we will then ask for a passport : do you how long it takes to receive
it?
    > Thanks again for your time and answers.
    > "ND" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I forgot to tell you that I did the process all by email (sent forms in
by
    > > snail mail):
    > >
    > > [email protected]
    > >
    > > They responded to all enquiries within 24 hours. Their consular office
    > > should also respond:
    > >
    > > Telephone: 01.44.43.29.02
    > > Fax: 01.44.43.29.86
    > > Phone reception: 9:00-12:00 2:00-4:30
    > >
    > > We applied May 15 2003 and got the certificate of citizenship at the end
    > of
    > > August 2003. About 15 weeks total. At the end of June they sent a
letter
    > > stating that everything was OK and that it would take 2 or 3 months
    > longer.
    > >
    > > All applications from outside of Canada go to Sydney, Nova Scotia and
are
    > > usually processed quickly. The consulate will do you the favour of
    > checking
    > > over your application to make sure you got everything OK before sending
it
    > > out to Sydney. You can put either an address in Canada or France to
    > receive
    > > the certificate. We came to Canada with our two children and no
    > > certificates and had no problems with customs -- as long as they have
    > valid
    > > passports, there will be no hassles at customs.
    > >
    > > Keep copies of the process and the emails from the consulate -- they'll
be
    > > sufficient proof for getting provincial health care coverage if the
    > process
    > > is delayed for any reason. I showed them the letter from June and I got
    > the
    > > 3 months waiting period for provincial health insurance waived -- that's
    > > Ontario, I'm not sure about Quebec.
    > >
    > > I hope this helps and again don't worry about it, you baby is already
    > > Canadian and this is a mere formality.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only
an
    > > > answering machine.
    > > >
    > > > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on
the
    > > > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > > > >
    > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
    > > reason
    > > > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
    > > school
    > > > > registration, work, etc.
    > > > >
    > > > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
    > > France --
    > > > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
    > > papers
    > > > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it
will
    > > be
    > > > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
    > > process
    > > > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes
about
    > 6
    > > > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > > > >
    > > > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you
the
    > > > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > > > >
    > > > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > > > >
    > > > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
    > > helpful.
    > > > >
    > > > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and
    > > we've
    > > > > just
    > > > > > had a baby
    > > > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to
    > > travel
    > > > > to
    > > > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens
    > laws.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanx
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Old Sep 8th 2003, 6:41 am
  #10  
Barnabé
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Default Re: New-born child / double nationality / travel to Canada

I just come back from the photographer, but he was unable to make pictures
whose format is described on the application form. I'll try another one
tomorrow.

"ND" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
    > Proof that one of the parents is citizen... my birth certificate card was
    > sufficient, but I also included my passport to have a picture ID. The
date
    > on the Canadian citizen's birth certificate is irrelevant... the consulate
    > will tell you what you need -- contact them via email and they will send
you
    > a list of things you need or answer the questions quickly.
    > I sent my children's birth certificates and my marriage certificate, but
    > again, they will tell you want to send. They "pre-approve" the paperwork
in
    > France at the Canadian consulate before it is sent to Canada to speed up
the
    > process... if there is something missing, they will contact you before
    > shipping the application to Canada... you cannot send the request directly
    > to Canada and if you do the process later from Canada it will be much more
    > difficult.
    > The consulate will also tell you about the photos (special size, signed on
    > back, etc.) The card does not have an expiry date on it and is probably
    > valid for the life of the citizen. If it is the sole mean of
identification
    > for your child, they may want to update the picture before reaching
    > university, but you're really just worrying too much.
    > My children don't have Canadian passports yet and I only plan to get them
    > when I need to travel. I imagine they will take a few days or weeks
    > depending on how you have them done. Your child can travel to Canada and
    > stay here as long as he/she wants with his/her French passport (as long as
    > you have submitted the application to the consulate in France). Customs
    > officials never question babies or toddlers and even if they did, the
truth
    > would suffice.
    > If you ask for a Canadian passport for your child, you would need the
    > citizenship certificate first. BUT again, just use a French passport for
    > your child if you're in a hurry to get over here.
    > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thanks a lot for your answer, it's great to get answers like yours.
    > > You must know that I am on an immigration process to move to Quebec,
    > that's
    > > why I have a lot of questions about papers and all the administrative
    > stuff.
    > > I still have to send my application forms to the ambassy, bacause I have
    > > waited for the baby to be born. Now that he is born, I can activate the
    > > process.
    > > I have a few others questions:
    > > - to get the certificate of citizenship, several documents are required,
    > and
    > > amongst them, a proof that one of the parents is citizen of Canada. The
    > > proof can be either a certificate of citizenship, or a birth
certificate.
    > My
    > > girlfriend only has a birth certificate, but it is dated earlier than
Jan
    > > 1st 1994, and for this reason, the ambassy may ask us for other proofs.
    > What
    > > documents did you send with the application form?
    > > - photos are required with the application form. The baby is still very
    > > young, and his face will change a lot in the coming months and years.
How
    > > long will the certificate of citizenship be available?
    > > - we will then ask for a passport : do you how long it takes to receive
    > it?
    > >
    > > Thanks again for your time and answers.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "ND" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I forgot to tell you that I did the process all by email (sent forms
in
    > by
    > > > snail mail):
    > > >
    > > > [email protected]
    > > >
    > > > They responded to all enquiries within 24 hours. Their consular
office
    > > > should also respond:
    > > >
    > > > Telephone: 01.44.43.29.02
    > > > Fax: 01.44.43.29.86
    > > > Phone reception: 9:00-12:00 2:00-4:30
    > > >
    > > > We applied May 15 2003 and got the certificate of citizenship at the
end
    > > of
    > > > August 2003. About 15 weeks total. At the end of June they sent a
    > letter
    > > > stating that everything was OK and that it would take 2 or 3 months
    > > longer.
    > > >
    > > > All applications from outside of Canada go to Sydney, Nova Scotia and
    > are
    > > > usually processed quickly. The consulate will do you the favour of
    > > checking
    > > > over your application to make sure you got everything OK before
sending
    > it
    > > > out to Sydney. You can put either an address in Canada or France to
    > > receive
    > > > the certificate. We came to Canada with our two children and no
    > > > certificates and had no problems with customs -- as long as they have
    > > valid
    > > > passports, there will be no hassles at customs.
    > > >
    > > > Keep copies of the process and the emails from the consulate --
they'll
    > be
    > > > sufficient proof for getting provincial health care coverage if the
    > > process
    > > > is delayed for any reason. I showed them the letter from June and I
got
    > > the
    > > > 3 months waiting period for provincial health insurance waived --
that's
    > > > Ontario, I'm not sure about Quebec.
    > > >
    > > > I hope this helps and again don't worry about it, you baby is already
    > > > Canadian and this is a mere formality.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is
only
    > an
    > > > > answering machine.
    > > > >
    > > > > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on
    > the
    > > > > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
    > > > reason
    > > > > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
    > > > school
    > > > > > registration, work, etc.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
    > > > France --
    > > > > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
    > > > papers
    > > > > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it
    > will
    > > > be
    > > > > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
    > > > process
    > > > > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes
    > about
    > > 6
    > > > > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you
    > the
    > > > > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > > > > >
    > > > > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
    > > > helpful.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France,
and
    > > > we've
    > > > > > just
    > > > > > > had a baby
    > > > > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby
to
    > > > travel
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens
    > > laws.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Thanx
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 10th 2003, 5:06 am
  #11  
Tom
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Default Re: New-born child / double nationality / travel to Canada

In the case of a child born to a Canadian parent outside Canada,
Canadian embassies/CHC's are authorized to issue a limited-validity
Canadian passport to the child (in cases of emergency) after receiving
a duly completed passport application form (PPT 042) accompanied (or
applied earlier) by an application for citizenship (CIT 0006). This
passport will be valid for one year only and once the citizenship
certificate is received from Nova Scotia, may be extended to full
validity.

HTH. Tom
"ND" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]. cable.rogers.com>...
    > Proof that one of the parents is citizen... my birth certificate card was
    > sufficient, but I also included my passport to have a picture ID. The date
    > on the Canadian citizen's birth certificate is irrelevant... the consulate
    > will tell you what you need -- contact them via email and they will send you
    > a list of things you need or answer the questions quickly.
    >
    > I sent my children's birth certificates and my marriage certificate, but
    > again, they will tell you want to send. They "pre-approve" the paperwork in
    > France at the Canadian consulate before it is sent to Canada to speed up the
    > process... if there is something missing, they will contact you before
    > shipping the application to Canada... you cannot send the request directly
    > to Canada and if you do the process later from Canada it will be much more
    > difficult.
    >
    > The consulate will also tell you about the photos (special size, signed on
    > back, etc.) The card does not have an expiry date on it and is probably
    > valid for the life of the citizen. If it is the sole mean of identification
    > for your child, they may want to update the picture before reaching
    > university, but you're really just worrying too much.
    >
    > My children don't have Canadian passports yet and I only plan to get them
    > when I need to travel. I imagine they will take a few days or weeks
    > depending on how you have them done. Your child can travel to Canada and
    > stay here as long as he/she wants with his/her French passport (as long as
    > you have submitted the application to the consulate in France). Customs
    > officials never question babies or toddlers and even if they did, the truth
    > would suffice.
    >
    > If you ask for a Canadian passport for your child, you would need the
    > citizenship certificate first. BUT again, just use a French passport for
    > your child if you're in a hurry to get over here.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thanks a lot for your answer, it's great to get answers like yours.
    > > You must know that I am on an immigration process to move to Quebec,
    > that's
    > > why I have a lot of questions about papers and all the administrative
    > stuff.
    > > I still have to send my application forms to the ambassy, bacause I have
    > > waited for the baby to be born. Now that he is born, I can activate the
    > > process.
    > > I have a few others questions:
    > > - to get the certificate of citizenship, several documents are required,
    > and
    > > amongst them, a proof that one of the parents is citizen of Canada. The
    > > proof can be either a certificate of citizenship, or a birth certificate.
    > My
    > > girlfriend only has a birth certificate, but it is dated earlier than Jan
    > > 1st 1994, and for this reason, the ambassy may ask us for other proofs.
    > What
    > > documents did you send with the application form?
    > > - photos are required with the application form. The baby is still very
    > > young, and his face will change a lot in the coming months and years. How
    > > long will the certificate of citizenship be available?
    > > - we will then ask for a passport : do you how long it takes to receive
    > it?
    > >
    > > Thanks again for your time and answers.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "ND" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I forgot to tell you that I did the process all by email (sent forms in
    > by
    > > > snail mail):
    > > >
    > > > [email protected]
    > > >
    > > > They responded to all enquiries within 24 hours. Their consular office
    > > > should also respond:
    > > >
    > > > Telephone: 01.44.43.29.02
    > > > Fax: 01.44.43.29.86
    > > > Phone reception: 9:00-12:00 2:00-4:30
    > > >
    > > > We applied May 15 2003 and got the certificate of citizenship at the end
    > of
    > > > August 2003. About 15 weeks total. At the end of June they sent a
    > letter
    > > > stating that everything was OK and that it would take 2 or 3 months
    > longer.
    > > >
    > > > All applications from outside of Canada go to Sydney, Nova Scotia and
    > are
    > > > usually processed quickly. The consulate will do you the favour of
    > checking
    > > > over your application to make sure you got everything OK before sending
    > it
    > > > out to Sydney. You can put either an address in Canada or France to
    > receive
    > > > the certificate. We came to Canada with our two children and no
    > > > certificates and had no problems with customs -- as long as they have
    > valid
    > > > passports, there will be no hassles at customs.
    > > >
    > > > Keep copies of the process and the emails from the consulate -- they'll
    > be
    > > > sufficient proof for getting provincial health care coverage if the
    > process
    > > > is delayed for any reason. I showed them the letter from June and I got
    > the
    > > > 3 months waiting period for provincial health insurance waived -- that's
    > > > Ontario, I'm not sure about Quebec.
    > > >
    > > > I hope this helps and again don't worry about it, you baby is already
    > > > Canadian and this is a mere formality.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > The Canadian ambassy in Paris does not answer by phone. There is only
    > an
    > > > > answering machine.
    > > > >
    > > > > "Rogers News" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > I was in the same situation -- it's easy. Your baby can travel on
    > the
    > > > > > French passport and stay in Canada as long as necessary.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it. The only
    > reason
    > > > > > you have to prove it will be for registering for medical coverage,
    > school
    > > > > > registration, work, etc.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You can do it when you reach Canada, but I suggest you do it in
    > France --
    > > > > > it's quicker and easier (the local consulate will know what French
    > papers
    > > > > > are needed -- birth certificates, etc.) Once you're in Canada it
    > will
    > be
    > > > > > difficult to obtain the paperwork from France. You can start the
    > process
    > > > > > there and then have it mailed here to Canada. They say it takes
    > about
    > 6
    > > > > > months to complete (ours only took 3 months).
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just contact the Canadian consulate in Paris and they'll send you
    > the
    > > > > > necessary paperwork. Or, the paperwork is at:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/certif2.html
    > > > > >
    > > > > > BUT I suggest you contact the consulate in Paris -- they are very
    > helpful.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good luck and don't worry -- it's just a formality.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Your baby is already Canadian you just need to prove it.
    > > > > > "Barnabé" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I'm french and my girldfriend is canadien. We live in France, and
    > we've
    > just
    > > > > > > had a baby
    > > > > > > We would like to return and settle in Canada (Montreal).
    > > > > > > My question is : will a french passport be enough for the baby to
    > travel
    > to
    > > > > > > Canada and stay there?
    > > > > > > We could then regularize his situation, regarding the canadiens
    > laws.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Thanx
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 

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