Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Canada > Immigration & Citizenship (Canada)
Reload this Page >

Native English speaker needing an English test?

Native English speaker needing an English test?

Thread Tools
 
Old Jun 9th 2018, 5:59 am
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 16
bek_ is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Native English speaker needing an English test?

This is a long way off for me but I’m curious if any native English speakers had to do the English test? From what I could gather, individual A levels may not count and your degree had to be wholly taught in English to qualify (I studied abroad in a foreign language for 1/3 my degree). I also have a TESOL certificate so I’m hoping I can use that to avoid the test when the time comes but would like to hear other people’s experiences and whether I’ve misunderstood the rules.
bek_ is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 6:34 am
  #2  
SUPER MODERATOR
 
christmasoompa's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: In a darkened room somewhere.............
Posts: 34,033
christmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond reputechristmasoompa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Is this for a citizenship app, or a visa app? If a visa app, which one? The requirements differ.
christmasoompa is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 1:02 pm
  #3  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 94
milly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond reputemilly_m has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

My husband and I are native English speakers and did all our schooling/studies in the UK, but we still completed IELTS exams as it was a requirement for our application (Express Entry route to Permanent Residency, via a provincial nomination).
milly_m is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 2:03 pm
  #4  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,232
plasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond reputeplasticcanuck has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by bek_
This is a long way off for me but I’m curious if any native English speakers had to do the English test? From what I could gather, individual A levels may not count and your degree had to be wholly taught in English to qualify (I studied abroad in a foreign language for 1/3 my degree). I also have a TESOL certificate so I’m hoping I can use that to avoid the test when the time comes but would like to hear other people’s experiences and whether I’ve misunderstood the rules.
Just suck it up, Buttercup.
plasticcanuck is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 2:26 pm
  #5  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 16
bek_ is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Is this for a citizenship app, or a visa app? If a visa app, which one? The requirements differ.
oh sorry! Citizenship.
bek_ is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 2:27 pm
  #6  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 327
suzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond reputesuzeandmatt has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

My husband and I are both native English speakers.
I have a degree in English language & literature, completed in England.
My husband has a PhD, also completed in England.
We both still had to complete the English tests.
It feels like an utter waste of time and $, but it’s just part of the process I’m afraid.
suzeandmatt is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 6:56 pm
  #7  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 16
bek_ is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by suzeandmatt
My husband and I are both native English speakers.
I have a degree in English language & literature, completed in England.
My husband has a PhD, also completed in England.
We both still had to complete the English tests.
It feels like an utter waste of time and $, but it’s just part of the process I’m afraid.
Oh wow. When I read the information it looked like completing secondary or post-secondary education in English could exempt you from the English test. Did I misunderstand that?
bek_ is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 7:28 pm
  #8  
"In cruce vincam"
 
rivingtonpike's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: Mill Bay, Vancouver Island
Posts: 3,232
rivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by bek_
Oh wow. When I read the information it looked like completing secondary or post-secondary education in English could exempt you from the English test. Did I misunderstand that?
You're applying for citizenship right? I am a Brit by birth who is now also a Canadian citizen and I have never sat an English test - for citizenship, or FSW Cat 1 Permanent Residence status (wasn't necessary at the time).
rivingtonpike is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 10:23 pm
  #9  
BE Forum Addict
 
Snowy560's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 3,263
Snowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

If high school (graduate at age 18) is all you've got, unless you have some kind of certificate to prove it, it could be less risky/less hassle to simply take CELPIP LS (Listening and Speaking) which is specifically for Canadian Citizenship:

https://www.celpip.ca/
Snowy560 is offline  
Old Jun 9th 2018, 11:35 pm
  #10  
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Siouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration....html#language

It can't be one subject, it has to be all subjects - the whole program, so to speak; so complete secondary education including A levels or a post-secondary course that lasted several years. You would have to prove that all of your education/courses were taught in English - which is a lot harder than it sounds!
I graduated from an English-or French-language high school/college/university. What can I use to show that I can communicate in one of the official languages when I apply for citizenship?

If you did IELTS or similar for your PR application, you may be able to use those results.
Otherwise, far easier - as Snowy said - to take the CELPIP ... or wait until you are 55
Siouxie is offline  
Old Jun 10th 2018, 5:14 pm
  #11  
"In cruce vincam"
 
rivingtonpike's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: Mill Bay, Vancouver Island
Posts: 3,232
rivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond reputerivingtonpike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by Siouxie
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration....html#language

It can't be one subject, it has to be all subjects - the whole program, so to speak; so complete secondary education including A levels or a post-secondary course that lasted several years. You would have to prove that all of your education/courses were taught in English - which is a lot harder than it sounds!
I graduated from an English-or French-language high school/college/university. What can I use to show that I can communicate in one of the official languages when I apply for citizenship?

If you did IELTS or similar for your PR application, you may be able to use those results.
Otherwise, far easier - as Snowy said - to take the CELPIP ... or wait until you are 55
I do remember both my wife and I had to submit transcripts of our UK acquired university degrees when applying for citizenship. Perhaps that is what exempted us from sitting a test.
rivingtonpike is offline  
Old Jun 10th 2018, 7:59 pm
  #12  
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Siouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike
I do remember both my wife and I had to submit transcripts of our UK acquired university degrees when applying for citizenship. Perhaps that is what exempted us from sitting a test.

I seem to remember that Stinkypup also submitted his transcript for Citizenship and it was originally refused until they wrote the magic words on it that it was taught in English.. I managed to find the posts (there's more on the same thread):

English language proof for citizenship

English language proof for citizenship

Last edited by Siouxie; Jun 10th 2018 at 8:03 pm.
Siouxie is offline  
Old Jun 16th 2018, 1:10 am
  #13  
JGK
BE Enthusiast
 
JGK's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Vegreville, AB
Posts: 611
JGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond reputeJGK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

I used a notarized d copy of my English Language "O" Level Certificate in my citizenship application.
JGK is offline  
Old Jun 18th 2018, 3:46 pm
  #14  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Location: Burlington, ON
Posts: 158
jimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond reputejimmynoshoes has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

Originally Posted by Siouxie
If you did IELTS or similar for your PR application, you may be able to use those results.
Otherwise, far easier - as Snowy said - to take the CELPIP ... or wait until you are 55
So for those who have taken IELTS recently for PR and get accepted etc, in a few years time when applying for citizenship, will have to retake CELPIP over there? Sounds bizarre, would have thought passing the language tests for PR would kinda show that you can speak the language to them.

As I understand it, IELTS certificates are only valid for 2 years, so will have expired by the time you can apply for citizenship.
jimmynoshoes is offline  
Old Jun 18th 2018, 3:48 pm
  #15  
BE Forum Addict
 
Snowy560's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 3,263
Snowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond reputeSnowy560 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Native English speaker needing an English test?

An expired language test is okay for Citizenship.

Can I submit the results from a third-party language test that I took when I first applied to immigrate to Canada as proof I meet the citizenship language requirement?
Snowy560 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.