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Mr. Miller: Question on unemployment

Mr. Miller: Question on unemployment

Old May 6th 2003, 5:05 am
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Dear Mr. Miller,

First of all, I would like to thank you for the valuable advice you have been giving me. I truly appreciate your efforts.

My husband and I submitted our application in Manila last November 2000. The following is our timeline:

Submitted-November 2000
AOR-January 2001
Letter advising that interview is needed-Feb 2001
Letter advising of IRPA and new forms/documents needed-Feb 2003

Unfortunately, my husband was laid off last January and has been unemployed ever since. To keep himself busy, he has enrolled in a computer programming course in a computer institute. This is my question:

Do you think his being unemployed at present will have any impact on our application? He has a seven year work experience in a job that is valid under NOC.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you and best regards
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Old May 6th 2003, 5:40 am
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Such recent unemployment shouldn't affect your application.

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"stillw8ng" wrote in message
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    > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > First of all, I would like to thank you for the valuable advice you have
    > been giving me. I truly appreciate your efforts.
    > My husband and I submitted our application in Manila last November 2000.
    > The following is our timeline:
    > Submitted-November 2000
    > AOR-January 2001
    > Letter advising that interview is needed-Feb 2001
    > Letter advising of IRPA and new forms/documents needed-Feb 2003
    > Unfortunately, my husband was laid off last January and has been
    > unemployed ever since. To keep himself busy, he has enrolled in
    > a computer programming course in a computer institute. This is
    > my question:
    > Do you think his being unemployed at present will have any impact on our
    > application? He has a seven year work experience in a job that is valid
    > under NOC.
    > I look forward to hearing from you.
    > Thank you and best regards
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Old May 7th 2003, 12:14 am
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Thank you for your reply.

With his IELTS results, my husband cannot claim the full 16 points for language proficiency. This brings his overall points down to 69 points. We were given a lower passing mark of 70 points because we applied before December 31, 2001.

What are the chances that he will get approved in spite of the fact that he is one point short? We have decided to submit the new forms/supporting documents anyway because we've rationalized that we've got nothing to lose. My husband cannot take the IELTS again until after three months. We were given until June 1 to submit the new appplication package.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank you again and best regards.
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Old May 7th 2003, 2:49 am
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Without 70 points in your case (submitted prior to 2002) chances are rather
very slim, so don't hold your breath. But you never know as miracles
sometimes do happen.

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email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
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"stillw8ng" wrote in message
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    > Thank you for your reply.
    > With his IELTS results, my husband cannot claim the full 16 points for
    > language proficiency. This brings his overall points down to 69 points.
    > We were given a lower passing mark of 70 points because we applied
    > before December 31, 2001.
    > What are the chances that he will get approved in spite of the fact
    > that he is one point short? We have decided to submit the new
    > forms/supporting documents anyway because we've rationalized that we've
    > got nothing to lose. My husband cannot take the IELTS again until
    > after three months. We were given until June 1 to submit the new
    > appplication package.
    > I look forward to your reply.
    > Thank you again and best regards.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old May 9th 2003, 12:34 am
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Thank you for your reply.

What are the specific circumstances that may lead to the so-called "substituted evaluation"? I understand that visa officers have the authority to exercise this. How do we merit such an action from a visa officer? What are the chances of this happening?

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Thanks and best regards.
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Old May 9th 2003, 2:45 am
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There are no specific guidelines or anything of that sort describing what
would warrant substitute evaluation (discretionary approval or refusal).
Rules only state that processing officer (with the consent of second
officer) may use substitute evaluation if in hers or his opinion the number
of points scored is not a sufficient indicator of whether the skilled worker
may become economically established in Canada. Case must be well beyond the
average and applicant's skills, qualifications, abilities and/or experience
must be so unique and in serious shortage in Canada that officer will be
convinced to approve it with less points that required pass mark.

Similar approach apply to refusal based on substitute evaluation -
processing officer may refuse visa in the case with points reaching or
exceeding pass mark if in such officer's opinion the applicant's skills,
qualifications, abilities, resourcefulness and/or experience don't prove
that applicant has good chance for successful economical establishment in
Canada.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"stillw8ng" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you for your reply.
    > What are the specific circumstances that may lead to the so-called
    > "substituted evaluation"? I understand that visa officers have the
    > authority to exercise this. How do we merit such an action from a visa
    > officer? What are the chances of this happening?
    > I look forward to hearing from you again.
    > Thanks and best regards.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old May 9th 2003, 3:37 am
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Thank you again for your insights.
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