Mr. Miller & other experts!

Old Feb 12th 2003, 6:42 am
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Girlwithnoname
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I've been reading alot about the new regs and the language
proficiencies.

It's likely that my friend will not get his interview under the
"self-employed" category before March 31 even though he applied in Dec
2000 and moved his file to London in August 2001 (the wait has been long
and arduous and shows no signs yet of being over). I assume he will be
assessed under the new regulations.

He's from South Africa and his first language is English.

Will he also have to take IELTS to prove his proficiency? Or is this
just for countries and foreign nationals from countries whose first
language is something other than english?

thank you.
GWNN
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 8:45 am
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Jim Humphries
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It is likely that he will have to change his category unless his employment
is in the arts or farming. That would mean that he has to take the IELTS
etc.
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"Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
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    > I've been reading alot about the new regs and the language
    > proficiencies.
    > It's likely that my friend will not get his interview under the
    > "self-employed" category before March 31 even though he applied in Dec
    > 2000 and moved his file to London in August 2001 (the wait has been long
    > and arduous and shows no signs yet of being over). I assume he will be
    > assessed under the new regulations.
    > He's from South Africa and his first language is English.
    > Will he also have to take IELTS to prove his proficiency? Or is this
    > just for countries and foreign nationals from countries whose first
    > language is something other than english?
    > thank you.
    > GWNN
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 9:36 am
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Girlwithnoname
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Mr Humphries, thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I see the answer here tho.
My friend works in the film industry, which is definitely considered "cultural"
so we are not really concerned about his admissability under the self employed
category.

What we ARE wondering is if his first language is English and he's from South
Africa where english is spoken predominantly, is it likely that he will have to
prove his language proficiency by taking IELTS, or is this particular hurdle
only for those who are from non-english speaking countries?

thanks very much for your response
GWNN

Jim Humphries wrote:

    > It is likely that he will have to change his category unless his employment
    > is in the arts or farming. That would mean that he has to take the IELTS
    > etc.
    > --
    > Jim Humphries, former visa officer
    > "Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I've been reading alot about the new regs and the language
    > > proficiencies.
    > >
    > > It's likely that my friend will not get his interview under the
    > > "self-employed" category before March 31 even though he applied in Dec
    > > 2000 and moved his file to London in August 2001 (the wait has been long
    > > and arduous and shows no signs yet of being over). I assume he will be
    > > assessed under the new regulations.
    > >
    > > He's from South Africa and his first language is English.
    > >
    > > Will he also have to take IELTS to prove his proficiency? Or is this
    > > just for countries and foreign nationals from countries whose first
    > > language is something other than english?
    > >
    > > thank you.
    > > GWNN
    > >
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 12:31 pm
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Jim Humphries
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If he is from SA and can show that his education was in English then that
should suffice. Also, as a film industry worker he may well qualify under
the new self-employed category criteria.
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"Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
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    > Mr Humphries, thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I see the answer here
tho.
    > My friend works in the film industry, which is definitely considered
"cultural"
    > so we are not really concerned about his admissability under the self
employed
    > category.
    > What we ARE wondering is if his first language is English and he's from
South
    > Africa where english is spoken predominantly, is it likely that he will
have to
    > prove his language proficiency by taking IELTS, or is this particular
hurdle
    > only for those who are from non-english speaking countries?
    > thanks very much for your response
    > GWNN
    > Jim Humphries wrote:
    > > It is likely that he will have to change his category unless his
employment
    > > is in the arts or farming. That would mean that he has to take the
IELTS
    > > etc.
    > > --
    > > Jim Humphries, former visa officer
    > > "Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I've been reading alot about the new regs and the language
    > > > proficiencies.
    > > >
    > > > It's likely that my friend will not get his interview under the
    > > > "self-employed" category before March 31 even though he applied in Dec
    > > > 2000 and moved his file to London in August 2001 (the wait has been
long
    > > > and arduous and shows no signs yet of being over). I assume he will
be
    > > > assessed under the new regulations.
    > > >
    > > > He's from South Africa and his first language is English.
    > > >
    > > > Will he also have to take IELTS to prove his proficiency? Or is this
    > > > just for countries and foreign nationals from countries whose first
    > > > language is something other than english?
    > > >
    > > > thank you.
    > > > GWNN
    > > >
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 12:43 pm
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Aikido251
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I believe so.
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 12:56 pm
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Stuart Brook
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Aikido251 wrote:
    >
    > I believe so.

What do you believe ? That the moon was made of green cheese ? GO AWAY
YOU MORON!
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 1:17 pm
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Girlwithnoname
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Listen you. If I don't like Aidido's response to MY posting, I believe it
should be MY right to tell him/her off, not YOU...so if you have nothing of
value to add to my query, would YOU please butt out.

thank you.

now...Mr Humphries, thank you for your response. I appreciate the timely
manner with which you have responded. You've also given me some hope that
all will be okay (and after this amount of waiting, I can't believe we ARE
still waiting ). So, he may not have to take the
IELTS after all. If it does happen that he does have to, how is this test
administered? Is it an instructor asking you to spell things and form
sentences on paper or is it a strictly written test where the questions are
posed on a piece of paper that you also write your responses onto?

Mr. Miller, I wonder if you have comments regarding this issue as well as
the film industry worker vs. new rules under self-employed category. I
believe we've spoken on this matter and you had stated that as a film
worker, he would fall into the category under the new rules? As well, what
is your experience with first-language-english speakers from South Africa
being asked to take IELTS (under self-employed category specifically).

and again, thanks to those with valuable input. Please refrain from using
expletives and insults in my thread. We all just want to get along here.

GWNN

Stuart Brook wrote:

    > Aikido251 wrote:
    > >
    > > I believe so.
    > What do you believe ? That the moon was made of green cheese ? GO AWAY
    > YOU MORON!
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 1:31 pm
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Andrew Miller
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GWNN,

As per our conversation while ago over the phone - he will fit into
Self-Employed category under new rules. I though that this matter was
already clear for you.

English - his first language (native) is English thus he won't need IELTS.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
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"Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Listen you. If I don't like Aidido's response to MY posting, I believe it
    > should be MY right to tell him/her off, not YOU...so if you have nothing
of
    > value to add to my query, would YOU please butt out.
    > thank you.
    > now...Mr Humphries, thank you for your response. I appreciate the timely
    > manner with which you have responded. You've also given me some hope that
    > all will be okay (and after this amount of waiting, I can't believe we ARE
    > still waiting ). So, he may not have to take the
    > IELTS after all. If it does happen that he does have to, how is this test
    > administered? Is it an instructor asking you to spell things and form
    > sentences on paper or is it a strictly written test where the questions
are
    > posed on a piece of paper that you also write your responses onto?
    > Mr. Miller, I wonder if you have comments regarding this issue as well as
    > the film industry worker vs. new rules under self-employed category. I
    > believe we've spoken on this matter and you had stated that as a film
    > worker, he would fall into the category under the new rules? As well,
what
    > is your experience with first-language-english speakers from South Africa
    > being asked to take IELTS (under self-employed category specifically).
    > and again, thanks to those with valuable input. Please refrain from using
    > expletives and insults in my thread. We all just want to get along here.
    > GWNN
    > Stuart Brook wrote:
    > > Aikido251 wrote:
    > > >
    > > > I believe so.
    > >
    > > What do you believe ? That the moon was made of green cheese ? GO AWAY
    > > YOU MORON!
 
Old Feb 12th 2003, 1:52 pm
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Girlwithnoname
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Mr. Miller, thanks for responding (and thanks for remembering me, it's been some
time since we spoke).

Yes, the self employed/film industry issue is clear to me. I'll admit to
letting Mr. Humphries' comment freak me out and with the new regulations
becoming a very REAL reality for us, I am starting to get very paranoid.

Thank for your understanding...I get it, I just needed reassurance...and thanks
for that too.

As for the English issue: thanks for responding to that too...that's good news.

I hope you have a wonderful evening.
GWNN

Andrew Miller wrote:

    > GWNN,
    > As per our conversation while ago over the phone - he will fit into
    > Self-Employed category under new rules. I though that this matter was
    > already clear for you.
    > English - his first language (native) is English thus he won't need IELTS.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    > "Girlwithnoname" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Listen you. If I don't like Aidido's response to MY posting, I believe it
    > > should be MY right to tell him/her off, not YOU...so if you have nothing
    > of
    > > value to add to my query, would YOU please butt out.
    > >
    > > thank you.
    > >
    > > now...Mr Humphries, thank you for your response. I appreciate the timely
    > > manner with which you have responded. You've also given me some hope that
    > > all will be okay (and after this amount of waiting, I can't believe we ARE
    > > still waiting ). So, he may not have to take the
    > > IELTS after all. If it does happen that he does have to, how is this test
    > > administered? Is it an instructor asking you to spell things and form
    > > sentences on paper or is it a strictly written test where the questions
    > are
    > > posed on a piece of paper that you also write your responses onto?
    > >
    > > Mr. Miller, I wonder if you have comments regarding this issue as well as
    > > the film industry worker vs. new rules under self-employed category. I
    > > believe we've spoken on this matter and you had stated that as a film
    > > worker, he would fall into the category under the new rules? As well,
    > what
    > > is your experience with first-language-english speakers from South Africa
    > > being asked to take IELTS (under self-employed category specifically).
    > >
    > > and again, thanks to those with valuable input. Please refrain from using
    > > expletives and insults in my thread. We all just want to get along here.
    > >
    > > GWNN
    > >
    > > Stuart Brook wrote:
    > >
    > > > Aikido251 wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > I believe so.
    > > >
    > > > What do you believe ? That the moon was made of green cheese ? GO AWAY
    > > > YOU MORON!
    > >
 

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