Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
Apr 24th 2003, 5:44 am
#1
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Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
Mr. Miller-
I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
points)
I was thinking,
if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
from my employer)
The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
this is "possible."
I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking, perhaps
I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
Thanks for your time, as always.
I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
points)
I was thinking,
if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
from my employer)
The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
this is "possible."
I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking, perhaps
I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
Thanks for your time, as always.
Apr 24th 2003, 6:55 am
#2
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Re: Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it is
the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
year remaining anyway.
What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as well -
so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Eric Horner" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mr. Miller-
> I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> points)
> I was thinking,
> if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> from my employer)
> The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> this is "possible."
> I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking, perhaps
> I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> Thanks for your time, as always.
the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
year remaining anyway.
What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as well -
so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Eric Horner" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mr. Miller-
> I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> points)
> I was thinking,
> if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> from my employer)
> The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> this is "possible."
> I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking, perhaps
> I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> Thanks for your time, as always.
Apr 24th 2003, 8:50 am
#3
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Re: Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
this sounds kinda funny and weird.. but
what if i go to the buffalo POE, get it and deliver the PR application
to the consulate in buffalo in person?
it's so tricky..
I talked to CIC and they told me NAFTA visa is always
upto 1 year from the date of issue....
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news
[email protected]...
> It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it is
> the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
> the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> year remaining anyway.
> What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
> it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
well -
> so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> --
> ../..
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
> "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mr. Miller-
> > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> > points)
> >
> > I was thinking,
> > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > from my employer)
> > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > this is "possible."
> >
> > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
perhaps
> > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> >
> > Thanks for your time, as always.
> >
> >
> >
what if i go to the buffalo POE, get it and deliver the PR application
to the consulate in buffalo in person?
it's so tricky..
I talked to CIC and they told me NAFTA visa is always
upto 1 year from the date of issue....
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news
[email protected]...> It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it is
> the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
> the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> year remaining anyway.
> What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
> it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
well -
> so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> --
> ../..
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
> "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mr. Miller-
> > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> > points)
> >
> > I was thinking,
> > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > from my employer)
> > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > this is "possible."
> >
> > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
perhaps
> > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> >
> > Thanks for your time, as always.
> >
> >
> >
Apr 24th 2003, 8:56 am
#4
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Re: Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
Again - you'll be taking a risk.
NAFTA based work permits are issued for up to 1 - 3 years, depending on
category.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Eric Horner" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> this sounds kinda funny and weird.. but
> what if i go to the buffalo POE, get it and deliver the PR application
> to the consulate in buffalo in person?
> it's so tricky..
> I talked to CIC and they told me NAFTA visa is always
> upto 1 year from the date of issue....
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it
is
> > the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More,
by
> > the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> > year remaining anyway.
> >
> > What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of
doing
> > it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> >
> > None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> > that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
> well -
> > so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mr. Miller-
> > > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get
the
> > > points)
> > >
> > > I was thinking,
> > > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I
receive
> > > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > > from my employer)
> > > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > > this is "possible."
> > >
> > > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
> perhaps
> > > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time, as always.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
NAFTA based work permits are issued for up to 1 - 3 years, depending on
category.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Eric Horner" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> this sounds kinda funny and weird.. but
> what if i go to the buffalo POE, get it and deliver the PR application
> to the consulate in buffalo in person?
> it's so tricky..
> I talked to CIC and they told me NAFTA visa is always
> upto 1 year from the date of issue....
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
> news
[email protected]...> > It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it
is
> > the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More,
by
> > the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> > year remaining anyway.
> >
> > What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of
doing
> > it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> >
> > None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> > that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
> well -
> > so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mr. Miller-
> > > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get
the
> > > points)
> > >
> > > I was thinking,
> > > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I
receive
> > > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > > from my employer)
> > > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > > this is "possible."
> > >
> > > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
> perhaps
> > > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time, as always.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Apr 24th 2003, 9:49 pm
#5
Guest
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Re: Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
Misrepresentation would result in a bar from Canada for two years.
But, even if obtained properly, a NAFTA visa is not considered for Arranged
Employment. My understanding is that the basis of Arranged Employment
points is that there is either a "positive or neutral" effect. Since NAFTA
visas are issued for completely different reasons, they do not count.
--
All opinions expressed are my own.
Berto Volpentesta
Member and Director, OPIC
Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
Toronto, Canada
Serving People Around the World since 1991
www.svcanada.com
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it is
> the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
> the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> year remaining anyway.
> What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
> it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
well -
> so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> --
> ../..
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
> "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mr. Miller-
> > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> > points)
> >
> > I was thinking,
> > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > from my employer)
> > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > this is "possible."
> >
> > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
perhaps
> > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> >
> > Thanks for your time, as always.
> >
> >
> >
But, even if obtained properly, a NAFTA visa is not considered for Arranged
Employment. My understanding is that the basis of Arranged Employment
points is that there is either a "positive or neutral" effect. Since NAFTA
visas are issued for completely different reasons, they do not count.
--
All opinions expressed are my own.
Berto Volpentesta
Member and Director, OPIC
Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
Toronto, Canada
Serving People Around the World since 1991
www.svcanada.com
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news
[email protected]...> It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it is
> the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More, by
> the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> year remaining anyway.
> What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of doing
> it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
well -
> so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> --
> ../..
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
> "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mr. Miller-
> > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get the
> > points)
> >
> > I was thinking,
> > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I receive
> > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > from my employer)
> > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > this is "possible."
> >
> > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
perhaps
> > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> >
> > Thanks for your time, as always.
> >
> >
> >
Apr 25th 2003, 8:40 am
#6
Guest
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Re: Mr. Miller-- arranged employment
IMPORTANT
Thanks to Andrew for some clarification on NAFTA and points awarded for
persons holding a NAFTA permit.
It IS possible for a person to be awarded points for a permit issued under
NAFTA.
My previous post is erroneous.
--
All responses IMHO and no one else's.
Reply to me remove (REM)
Berto Volpentesta
Member OPIC, Director OPIC
Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
Serving People Around the World Since 1991
www.svcanada.com
321-3701 Chesswood Dr., Toronto, ON M3J 2P6
Canada
_________________________________________
Berto Volpentesta
+1(416) 398 8882 Office
+1(416) 787 0612 Office 2
+1(416) 892 2916 Cell
e-mail: [email protected]
ICQ#: 50212503
SMS ICQ): +278314250212503
"Berto Volpentesta" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Misrepresentation would result in a bar from Canada for two years.
> But, even if obtained properly, a NAFTA visa is not considered for
Arranged
> Employment. My understanding is that the basis of Arranged Employment
> points is that there is either a "positive or neutral" effect. Since
NAFTA
> visas are issued for completely different reasons, they do not count.
> --
> All opinions expressed are my own.
> Berto Volpentesta
> Member and Director, OPIC
> Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
> Toronto, Canada
> Serving People Around the World since 1991
> www.svcanada.com
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it
is
> > the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More,
by
> > the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> > year remaining anyway.
> >
> > What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of
doing
> > it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> >
> > None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> > that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
> well -
> > so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mr. Miller-
> > > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get
the
> > > points)
> > >
> > > I was thinking,
> > > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I
receive
> > > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > > from my employer)
> > > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > > this is "possible."
> > >
> > > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
> perhaps
> > > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time, as always.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Thanks to Andrew for some clarification on NAFTA and points awarded for
persons holding a NAFTA permit.
It IS possible for a person to be awarded points for a permit issued under
NAFTA.
My previous post is erroneous.
--
All responses IMHO and no one else's.
Reply to me remove (REM)
Berto Volpentesta
Member OPIC, Director OPIC
Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
Serving People Around the World Since 1991
www.svcanada.com
321-3701 Chesswood Dr., Toronto, ON M3J 2P6
Canada
_________________________________________
Berto Volpentesta
+1(416) 398 8882 Office
+1(416) 787 0612 Office 2
+1(416) 892 2916 Cell
e-mail: [email protected]
ICQ#: 50212503
SMS ICQ): +278314250212503
"Berto Volpentesta" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Misrepresentation would result in a bar from Canada for two years.
> But, even if obtained properly, a NAFTA visa is not considered for
Arranged
> Employment. My understanding is that the basis of Arranged Employment
> points is that there is either a "positive or neutral" effect. Since
NAFTA
> visas are issued for completely different reasons, they do not count.
> --
> All opinions expressed are my own.
> Berto Volpentesta
> Member and Director, OPIC
> Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
> Toronto, Canada
> Serving People Around the World since 1991
> www.svcanada.com
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
> news
[email protected]...> > It is not the date you signed and mail the application what counts - it
is
> > the date it is received by visa post. Thus your idea won't work. More,
by
> > the time you receive 1 year work permit it will have already less than a
> > year remaining anyway.
> >
> > What you propose may be considered a fraud, thus don't even think of
doing
> > it. Just apply now for extension and pray.
> >
> > None of my distinguished colleagues posted their comments, thus I assume
> > that they don't have any experience with similar case as yours yet as
> well -
> > so, you'll be your own "lab rat"... :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "Eric Horner" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mr. Miller-
> > > I have previously asked you regarding arranged employment points
> > > with NAFTA professional category. (1 yr limit, but needs 1 yr to get
the
> > > points)
> > >
> > > I was thinking,
> > > if I apply for PR under skilled worker category, the very day I
receive
> > > NAFTA work permit that is good for 12 months, would I receive
> > > the arranged employment points? (Of course, assuming I have a letter
> > > from my employer)
> > > The law requires 12 months from the date of application, so I assume
> > > this is "possible."
> > >
> > > I still have 8 months left on my work permit, but I was thinking,
> perhaps
> > > I can go to the border again, tell them I lost it, and say instead of
> > > reissuing the same work permit, just ask them to issue me a new
> > > work permit that is valid for 1yr from that date. What do you think?
> > > I guess this is one way to get around the problem....
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time, as always.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
