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Mr. Miller: "Lifespan" of Police Certificate from FBI

Mr. Miller: "Lifespan" of Police Certificate from FBI

Old Aug 19th 2003, 1:22 am
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Jeni
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Dear Mr. Miller,

My fiance will soon be sending his fingerprints and request to the FBI
for the required US police certificate for our application (I will be
sponsoring him as my spouse as soon as we are married in November).

Can you please tell me what the lifespan of the certificate is (eg. 6
months, 1 year). Since it takes 4-6 weeks, and we would like to have
it in our hands for the end of November when we submit the
application, we would like to know when he should send in the request
to the FBI.

Thanks for any information.
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 3:01 am
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Renee
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The CIC site states that fingerprints clearances are valid for six months.

Renee

--
Timeline so far:
19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary on 6 month TRV
12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
5 July 2003: Wedding Date
17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
"Jeni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > My fiance will soon be sending his fingerprints and request to the FBI
    > for the required US police certificate for our application (I will be
    > sponsoring him as my spouse as soon as we are married in November).
    > Can you please tell me what the lifespan of the certificate is (eg. 6
    > months, 1 year). Since it takes 4-6 weeks, and we would like to have
    > it in our hands for the end of November when we submit the
    > application, we would like to know when he should send in the request
    > to the FBI.
    > Thanks for any information.
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 6:49 am
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Jeni
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"Renee" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .ca>...
    > The CIC site states that fingerprints clearances are valid for six months.
    >
    > Renee
    >
    > --
    > Timeline so far:
    > 19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary on 6 month TRV
    > 12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
    > 20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
    > 5 July 2003: Wedding Date
    > 17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
    > 15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
    > "Jeni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > >
    > > My fiance will soon be sending his fingerprints and request to the FBI
    > > for the required US police certificate for our application (I will be
    > > sponsoring him as my spouse as soon as we are married in November).
    > >
    > > Can you please tell me what the lifespan of the certificate is (eg. 6
    > > months, 1 year). Since it takes 4-6 weeks, and we would like to have
    > > it in our hands for the end of November when we submit the
    > > application, we would like to know when he should send in the request
    > > to the FBI.
    > >
    > > Thanks for any information.

Hi,

Thanks for the quick reply! However, the 6 months "lifespan" of the
police clearance opens up another question for us:

When should my fiance submit the fingerprints and request to the FBI?
I understand that all requested documents must be submitted with the
application to avoid any delays. We plan on submitting our
application to CIC in early December of this year. Considering that
it takes about 4-6 weeks to receive the clearance certificate from the
FBI, we were thinking that my fiance should submit the request to the
FBI at some point in October.

But, it seems that most cases take longer than 6 months, so it appears
to be a forgone conclusion that the validity of the clearance will
expire before our case is settled.

Any advice on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 7:14 am
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Renee
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I'm curious about that same thing. My FBI and state police clearances are
dated in the last week of February, and I couldn't submit my inland spousal
PR until after our wedding date on July 5.

My fingerprints are valid through the end of August, and they received my
application on July 17. I'm wondering whether I'll end up having to redo my
criminals. In my case, I moved to Canada on February 19, and I was an
administrative assistant in a jail prior to moving, so I did my fingerprints
before I left to make it easier.

Hopefully one of the experts can help us out here. Good luck to you, Jeni.

Renee

--
Timeline so far:
19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary on 6 month TRV
12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
5 July 2003: Wedding Date
17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
"Jeni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Renee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected] .ca>...
    > > The CIC site states that fingerprints clearances are valid for six
months.
    > >
    > > Renee
    > >
    > > --
    > > Timeline so far:
    > > 19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary on 6 month TRV
    > > 12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
    > > 20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
    > > 5 July 2003: Wedding Date
    > > 17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
    > > 15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
    > > "Jeni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > > >
    > > > My fiance will soon be sending his fingerprints and request to the FBI
    > > > for the required US police certificate for our application (I will be
    > > > sponsoring him as my spouse as soon as we are married in November).
    > > >
    > > > Can you please tell me what the lifespan of the certificate is (eg. 6
    > > > months, 1 year). Since it takes 4-6 weeks, and we would like to have
    > > > it in our hands for the end of November when we submit the
    > > > application, we would like to know when he should send in the request
    > > > to the FBI.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for any information.
    > Hi,
    > Thanks for the quick reply! However, the 6 months "lifespan" of the
    > police clearance opens up another question for us:
    > When should my fiance submit the fingerprints and request to the FBI?
    > I understand that all requested documents must be submitted with the
    > application to avoid any delays. We plan on submitting our
    > application to CIC in early December of this year. Considering that
    > it takes about 4-6 weeks to receive the clearance certificate from the
    > FBI, we were thinking that my fiance should submit the request to the
    > FBI at some point in October.
    > But, it seems that most cases take longer than 6 months, so it appears
    > to be a forgone conclusion that the validity of the clearance will
    > expire before our case is settled.
    > Any advice on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 9:52 am
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Roxolana
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Hi,
Are you sponsoring your fiance from within or from outside?
I submitted my FBI in Sept 2002 and they didn't ask for updates (when
they send me request for other updates couplse of months ago) as I am
not in US anymore. I am not going to conclude that that is their
policy (I am not sure)
But it makes sense to me, that update would be redundant as since I am
not in US anymore, how can I commit a crime there (in a country I
can't get a visa to go there anymore .)

For people who are applying from within US, updates make sense I
guess.

    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks for the quick reply! However, the 6 months "lifespan" of the
    > police clearance opens up another question for us:
    >
    > When should my fiance submit the fingerprints and request to the FBI?
    > I understand that all requested documents must be submitted with the
    > application to avoid any delays. We plan on submitting our
    > application to CIC in early December of this year. Considering that
    > it takes about 4-6 weeks to receive the clearance certificate from the
    > FBI, we were thinking that my fiance should submit the request to the
    > FBI at some point in October.
    >
    > But, it seems that most cases take longer than 6 months, so it appears
    > to be a forgone conclusion that the validity of the clearance will
    > expire before our case is settled.
    >
    > Any advice on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 9:54 am
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Webcrawler
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Jeni --

In my case, my lawyer forwarded the FBI clearance 3 months after the
application.

In several cases in the Buffalo post, they have requested updated FBI
clearances from applicants even after interview waivers were granted.
Based on what I have been seeing in this group, I would say more than
50% of applicants in the skilled worker category from Buffalo received
requests for updated FBI results.

One small tip to help you save a couple of weeks:
If you feel that your FBI results have expired and they are likely to
ask for updates, call FBI in advance and request them to send you the
fingerprinting forms.
It takes about 2 weeks for them to mail out the forms.
That way, if CHC requests updated FBI results, you will already have
the forms ready and can simply get the prints done at the nearest post
office and mail to FBI.

HTH some.

[email protected] (Jeni) wrote in message

    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks for the quick reply! However, the 6 months "lifespan" of the
    > police clearance opens up another question for us:
    >
    > When should my fiance submit the fingerprints and request to the FBI?
    > I understand that all requested documents must be submitted with the
    > application to avoid any delays. We plan on submitting our
    > application to CIC in early December of this year. Considering that
    > it takes about 4-6 weeks to receive the clearance certificate from the
    > FBI, we were thinking that my fiance should submit the request to the
    > FBI at some point in October.
    >
    > But, it seems that most cases take longer than 6 months, so it appears
    > to be a forgone conclusion that the validity of the clearance will
    > expire before our case is settled.
    >
    > Any advice on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old Aug 19th 2003, 10:02 am
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Renee
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I agree, roxolana. I put a post-it note on my criminal sheets pointing out
that I haven't returned to the US since my move date of February 19, 2003.
Since they can't guarantee reentry, I'm not taking any chances that I'd end
up separated from my husband.

Renee

--
Timeline so far:
19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary on 6 month TRV
12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
5 July 2003: Wedding Date
17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
"roxolana" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > Are you sponsoring your fiance from within or from outside?
    > I submitted my FBI in Sept 2002 and they didn't ask for updates (when
    > they send me request for other updates couplse of months ago) as I am
    > not in US anymore. I am not going to conclude that that is their
    > policy (I am not sure)
    > But it makes sense to me, that update would be redundant as since I am
    > not in US anymore, how can I commit a crime there (in a country I
    > can't get a visa to go there anymore .)
    > For people who are applying from within US, updates make sense I
    > guess.
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Thanks for the quick reply! However, the 6 months "lifespan" of the
    > > police clearance opens up another question for us:
    > >
    > > When should my fiance submit the fingerprints and request to the FBI?
    > > I understand that all requested documents must be submitted with the
    > > application to avoid any delays. We plan on submitting our
    > > application to CIC in early December of this year. Considering that
    > > it takes about 4-6 weeks to receive the clearance certificate from the
    > > FBI, we were thinking that my fiance should submit the request to the
    > > FBI at some point in October.
    > >
    > > But, it seems that most cases take longer than 6 months, so it appears
    > > to be a forgone conclusion that the validity of the clearance will
    > > expire before our case is settled.
    > >
    > > Any advice on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old Aug 20th 2003, 1:14 am
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[email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message
    > That way, if CHC requests updated FBI results, you will already have
    > the forms ready and can simply get the prints done at the nearest post
    > office and mail to FBI.

Dang ! I meant nearest police station and not post office :O
I knew there was something wrong with the pot I was smoking !!

-WebCrawler
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 1:27 am
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[email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > [email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message
    > > That way, if CHC requests updated FBI results, you will already have
    > > the forms ready and can simply get the prints done at the nearest post
    > > office and mail to FBI.
    >
    > Dang ! I meant nearest police station and not post office :O
    > I knew there was something wrong with the pot I was smoking !!
    >
    > -WebCrawler

Hi,

Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I have a couple more questions
I hope to receive some advice on. Here is the situation:

I am here in Canada, my fiance is in Slovakia (I will be sponsoring
him from abroad). Would it be possible for him to send me the
fingerprints and completed request form, and then I send the package
to the FBI in Washington (and use my address in Toronto as where they
should send the clearance). The reason is that banks in Slovakia do
not offer money orders or certified cheques(according to my fiance who
went to several banks to ask about this)--therefore, I could get a
money order from a bank here. Also, it would be much quicker (and
safer) to use my address in Canada (particularly given that my fiance
would have to send the clearance to me anyway).

Any insights would be great. Thanks!
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 5:06 am
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Webcrawler
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Jeni --

This is exactly what my lawyer (based in Canada) had done.
I had got the fingerprinting done from the nearest police station, and
mailed them the card with the fingerprints.
They sent it to FBI with their Canada address on it.
Once they got the report from FBI, they simply forwarded it to CHC
quoting my file number.
Based on what you described, it seems that the same strategy should
work.

The only potential problem I can see is that if the fingerprints
themselves are not done correctly, FBI may not accept them.
Where does he plan to get the fingerprinting done?

Best wishes.


[email protected] (Jeni) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > [email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > [email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message
    > > > That way, if CHC requests updated FBI results, you will already have
    > > > the forms ready and can simply get the prints done at the nearest post
    > > > office and mail to FBI.
    > >
    > > Dang ! I meant nearest police station and not post office :O
    > > I knew there was something wrong with the pot I was smoking !!
    > >
    > > -WebCrawler
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I have a couple more questions
    > I hope to receive some advice on. Here is the situation:
    >
    > I am here in Canada, my fiance is in Slovakia (I will be sponsoring
    > him from abroad). Would it be possible for him to send me the
    > fingerprints and completed request form, and then I send the package
    > to the FBI in Washington (and use my address in Toronto as where they
    > should send the clearance). The reason is that banks in Slovakia do
    > not offer money orders or certified cheques(according to my fiance who
    > went to several banks to ask about this)--therefore, I could get a
    > money order from a bank here. Also, it would be much quicker (and
    > safer) to use my address in Canada (particularly given that my fiance
    > would have to send the clearance to me anyway).
    >
    > Any insights would be great. Thanks!
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 8:56 am
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Jeni
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Hi,

Thanks for the advice--it does seem to be a more straightforward
approach. He's planning on getting the fingerprints taken in Slovakia
at the regional police station (after some cajoling, they are agreeing
to do it for him).

Also, I read somewhere (maybe in a post in this group--can't
remember), that there is a substantial backlog with the FBI on getting
these clearances and it could take up to 3 or 4 months for them to
send the certificate. Is this true? If so, I suppose we will need to
get going on this.

Thanks again!

[email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > Jeni --
    >
    > This is exactly what my lawyer (based in Canada) had done.
    > I had got the fingerprinting done from the nearest police station, and
    > mailed them the card with the fingerprints.
    > They sent it to FBI with their Canada address on it.
    > Once they got the report from FBI, they simply forwarded it to CHC
    > quoting my file number.
    > Based on what you described, it seems that the same strategy should
    > work.
    >
    > The only potential problem I can see is that if the fingerprints
    > themselves are not done correctly, FBI may not accept them.
    > Where does he plan to get the fingerprinting done?
    >
    > Best wishes.
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Jeni) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > [email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > > [email protected] (WebCrawler) wrote in message
    > > > > That way, if CHC requests updated FBI results, you will already have
    > > > > the forms ready and can simply get the prints done at the nearest post
    > > > > office and mail to FBI.
    > > >
    > > > Dang ! I meant nearest police station and not post office :O
    > > > I knew there was something wrong with the pot I was smoking !!
    > > >
    > > > -WebCrawler
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I have a couple more questions
    > > I hope to receive some advice on. Here is the situation:
    > >
    > > I am here in Canada, my fiance is in Slovakia (I will be sponsoring
    > > him from abroad). Would it be possible for him to send me the
    > > fingerprints and completed request form, and then I send the package
    > > to the FBI in Washington (and use my address in Toronto as where they
    > > should send the clearance). The reason is that banks in Slovakia do
    > > not offer money orders or certified cheques(according to my fiance who
    > > went to several banks to ask about this)--therefore, I could get a
    > > money order from a bank here. Also, it would be much quicker (and
    > > safer) to use my address in Canada (particularly given that my fiance
    > > would have to send the clearance to me anyway).
    > >
    > > Any insights would be great. Thanks!
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 1:32 pm
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Webcrawler
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Jeni --

Get in touch with the nearest US embassy and ask them.
I believe it *may* be possible to get the fingerprinting done at a US
consulate/embassy.

I am not sure whether getting the fingerprints taken at a local police
station is going to work.

I remember that when I had got my fingerprints done here in the US at
a police station, they had put a stamp on the card to indicate where
the printing was done, and the officer's signature.

I defer to the experts on this group on whether fingerprints taken at
a local police station in another country is going to work.

I haven't heard about the 3 - 4 month time-frame for FBI report.
It is very likely that it is taking this long because now-a-days they
are fingerprinting even the birds and crows that fly over the US skies
    :O
In my case, it had taken not more than 3 weeks or so, but that was
Dec. 2001 - Jan 2002.

Hope this helps.

[email protected] (Jeni) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks for the advice--it does seem to be a more straightforward
    > approach. He's planning on getting the fingerprints taken in Slovakia
    > at the regional police station (after some cajoling, they are agreeing
    > to do it for him).
    >
    > Also, I read somewhere (maybe in a post in this group--can't
    > remember), that there is a substantial backlog with the FBI on getting
    > these clearances and it could take up to 3 or 4 months for them to
    > send the certificate. Is this true? If so, I suppose we will need to
    > get going on this.
    >
    > Thanks again!
 

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