More planned changes for Spousal PR
Feb 29th 2016, 12:08 pm
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More planned changes for Spousal PR
Read and interpret this article how you wish but it appears the Liberal Govt will be getting rid of the 2 year conditional PR status (Condition 51) and attempting to reduce the wait times radically whatever that means.
Spouses of Canadians to get permanent residency immediately: McCallum | hilltimes.com
As with anything that is announced its best not to speculate when and how these changes will become effective. For those with applications already in it is uncertain if any decision will be back dated or will only apply to applications submitted after X date.
Obviously the legislation has to be amended and this takes time so no it won't be happening next week before anyone asks.
Spouses of Canadians to get permanent residency immediately: McCallum | hilltimes.com
As with anything that is announced its best not to speculate when and how these changes will become effective. For those with applications already in it is uncertain if any decision will be back dated or will only apply to applications submitted after X date.
Obviously the legislation has to be amended and this takes time so no it won't be happening next week before anyone asks.
Mar 2nd 2016, 4:24 am
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
I saw this article a few days ago. It has to be one of the worst-written articles ever. Either the article's author has no idea what he's talking about, or McCallum is thick.
He's referring to Conditional PR here, but the way it's written/quoted/spoken makes it sound like all PRs have to wait two years, which is not the case. There are specific scenarios where someone is granted Conditional PR, mainly when it's a short relationship leading up to sponsorship.
And then this:
"Almost two years" depends on the processing office that the person is applying through... and then again the statement that it takes another two years after arriving in Canada, which isn't accurate.
In addition, the article doesn't make any distinction between inland and outland.
It's basically written to try to sensationalize the whole thing waaaaaaaay more than necessary.
Worth pointing out that at least for London, processing times have dropped dramatically since the Liberals took over. The advertised time for London dropped from 28 months to 17 months. The average for straight-forward applications, according to the spreadsheet, dropped from 12 months to 9 months. And just looking at the number of approvals based on the spreadsheet, under the Tories there was never more than 25 approvals in a month... once the Liberals came in, Oct-Nov-Dec had 35-40 approvals each month. (Slowed down in January and February, but that's normal.)
“When spouses come in now, they don’t immediately become permanent residents; there’s a two-year period where they are not yet permanent residents,” Mr. McCallum (Markham-Thornhill, Ont.) said in an interview with The Hill Times. “We said in our platform that we will end that so that they will become permanent residents on arrival.”
Currently, sponsored spouses of Canadians receive conditional permanent residency upon arrival in Canada and have to wait for two years to obtain permanent-resident status. If the relationship breaks down, the sponsored spouse’s permanent residency can be revoked. Spouses holding conditional permanent resident status enjoy the same rights and benefits as any other permanent resident.
Currently, sponsored spouses of Canadians receive conditional permanent residency upon arrival in Canada and have to wait for two years to obtain permanent-resident status. If the relationship breaks down, the sponsored spouse’s permanent residency can be revoked. Spouses holding conditional permanent resident status enjoy the same rights and benefits as any other permanent resident.
And then this:
Mr. McCallum, whose riding has the third-highest percentage of visible minority population at 82 per cent, said that he finds it “abominable” that it takes almost two years for the spousal immigration applications to be processed, and after arriving in Canada, another two years to receive permanent-resident status.
In addition, the article doesn't make any distinction between inland and outland.
It's basically written to try to sensationalize the whole thing waaaaaaaay more than necessary.
Worth pointing out that at least for London, processing times have dropped dramatically since the Liberals took over. The advertised time for London dropped from 28 months to 17 months. The average for straight-forward applications, according to the spreadsheet, dropped from 12 months to 9 months. And just looking at the number of approvals based on the spreadsheet, under the Tories there was never more than 25 approvals in a month... once the Liberals came in, Oct-Nov-Dec had 35-40 approvals each month. (Slowed down in January and February, but that's normal.)
Mar 2nd 2016, 5:17 am
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
HI
1. IMHO he is thick. The Immigration critic for Conservatives, is probably more so, she had difficulty distinguishing between citizenship and immigration. Listen to the both of them on CBCs program "in the house" John McCallum, Michelle Rempel on rolling back controversial Citizenship Act - Home | The House | CBC Radio
2. As to the processing times, note that the stats are 17 months overall, as you and I know, that is not true for all offices. Some are much much faster and many are much slower. Compare offices on Trackitt. Data.gc.ca was a great way to determine actual processing time, but it appears that it is no longer be updated by the Gov.
I saw this article a few days ago. It has to be one of the worst-written articles ever. Either the article's author has no idea what he's talking about, or McCallum is thick.
He's referring to Conditional PR here, but the way it's written/quoted/spoken makes it sound like all PRs have to wait two years, which is not the case. There are specific scenarios where someone is granted Conditional PR, mainly when it's a short relationship leading up to sponsorship.
And then this:
"Almost two years" depends on the processing office that the person is applying through... and then again the statement that it takes another two years after arriving in Canada, which isn't accurate.
In addition, the article doesn't make any distinction between inland and outland.
It's basically written to try to sensationalize the whole thing waaaaaaaay more than necessary.
Worth pointing out that at least for London, processing times have dropped dramatically since the Liberals took over. The advertised time for London dropped from 28 months to 17 months. The average for straight-forward applications, according to the spreadsheet, dropped from 12 months to 9 months. And just looking at the number of approvals based on the spreadsheet, under the Tories there was never more than 25 approvals in a month... once the Liberals came in, Oct-Nov-Dec had 35-40 approvals each month. (Slowed down in January and February, but that's normal.)
He's referring to Conditional PR here, but the way it's written/quoted/spoken makes it sound like all PRs have to wait two years, which is not the case. There are specific scenarios where someone is granted Conditional PR, mainly when it's a short relationship leading up to sponsorship.
And then this:
"Almost two years" depends on the processing office that the person is applying through... and then again the statement that it takes another two years after arriving in Canada, which isn't accurate.
In addition, the article doesn't make any distinction between inland and outland.
It's basically written to try to sensationalize the whole thing waaaaaaaay more than necessary.
Worth pointing out that at least for London, processing times have dropped dramatically since the Liberals took over. The advertised time for London dropped from 28 months to 17 months. The average for straight-forward applications, according to the spreadsheet, dropped from 12 months to 9 months. And just looking at the number of approvals based on the spreadsheet, under the Tories there was never more than 25 approvals in a month... once the Liberals came in, Oct-Nov-Dec had 35-40 approvals each month. (Slowed down in January and February, but that's normal.)
2. As to the processing times, note that the stats are 17 months overall, as you and I know, that is not true for all offices. Some are much much faster and many are much slower. Compare offices on Trackitt. Data.gc.ca was a great way to determine actual processing time, but it appears that it is no longer be updated by the Gov.
Mar 6th 2016, 2:56 am
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
I'm sorry did I miss something? I didn't know that Spousals were given 'conditional' PR. Is this something new?
Mar 6th 2016, 3:10 am
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
What conditional permanent residence means for you
If you have been granted conditional permanent residence, you must live together with your sponsor in a legitimate relationship for two years from the day you receive conditional permanent residence. The condition ends after the two-year period.
Am I affected by this new measure?
Yes, if your application was received on or after October 25, 2012.
Yes, if you have been in a relationship of two years or less and do not have children in common with your sponsor.
No, if you have been in a relationship with your sponsor for more than two years.
No, if you had children in common with your sponsor at the time of your sponsorship application.
Mar 6th 2016, 5:47 am
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
There are no differences between conditional and "normal" PR, I don't know why the Liberals are getting all butthurt about it. It was meant as a way to stop sham marriages - there were quite a few cases of Person A sponsoring Person B, Person B getting PR, Person B arriving in Canada, and then Person B immediately taking off on Person A. Stories like this - They went abroad seeking wedded bliss. Now they say their marriages were a fraud - The Globe and Mail.
Mar 7th 2016, 2:34 pm
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Re: More planned changes for Spousal PR
That makes sense...very many thank for the clarification FL & Shnooks, greatly appreciated.
