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[QUOTE=Muncles]Thanks to Regs and Bethan. That answers all my questions.
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Good luck to u and all those of u studying french like me
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Actually, I'll confess! I took the TEF in November (after only 9 weeks studying for it) and I chickened out of the Spoken test, so when the results come through there will be a category missing! I knew I wouldn't be able to handle the spoken bit, but I am resolved to working hard at improving my standard and confidence in spoken french. I was aiming at the outset to get two points at this first stage and I hope I did enough in the other categories to get that. I'm a long way off getting 8 points though.
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
Regs - have you taken the TEF yet? how's the studying going?
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
Regs - have you taken the TEF yet? how's the studying going?
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Originally Posted by Bethan2
Actually, I'll confess! I took the TEF in November (after only 9 weeks studying for it) and I chickened out of the Spoken test, so when the results come through there will be a category missing! I knew I wouldn't be able to handle the spoken bit, but I am resolved to working hard at improving my standard and confidence in spoken french. I was aiming at the outset to get two points at this first stage and I hope I did enough in the other categories to get that. I'm a long way off getting 8 points though.
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
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[QUOTE=Bethan2] and I chickened out of the Spoken test, so when the results come through there will be a category missing!
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i thought the spoken bit was the easiest, the examinare were reallly kind and sympa, so wasnt an ordeal at all. just go for it, after all you will never see them again so who cares if you have egg on your face? At least you will have tried and you will probably do better than you think you can, as i said I got 4 points from 3 categories and my french is rubbish, . just dont guess and remember as you progress through the test the questions get harder.
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i thought the spoken bit was the easiest, the examinare were reallly kind and sympa, so wasnt an ordeal at all. just go for it, after all you will never see them again so who cares if you have egg on your face? At least you will have tried and you will probably do better than you think you can, as i said I got 4 points from 3 categories and my french is rubbish, . just dont guess and remember as you progress through the test the questions get harder.
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Originally Posted by adele
How did you find the rest of it Bethan? I'm really worried, I'm struggling so far with my A/S course. I did GCSE 8 years ago so was very rusty coming into it. I found A-level German to be fine and seemed to improve quickly, so I'm disappointed that I'm finding French much harder. I'll keep at it though, nothing to lose! Hopefully by April I'll be able to get a point or two. What previous experience of French did you have Bethan, before the 9 weeks revision?
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Thanks - You did great to get 4 points, was that enough for what you wanted? I'm only on 69 points overall, so I could do with getting up to moderate level in four categories. I'm such a wimp! I know how nice they are at Alliance Francais in Manchester - I just knew I couldn't really do it at that early stage. I will definitely do it next time!!!
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and I chickened out of the Spoken test, so when the results come through there will be a category missing!
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i thought the spoken bit was the easiest, the examinare were reallly kind and sympa, so wasnt an ordeal at all. just go for it, after all you will never see them again so who cares if you have egg on your face? At least you will have tried and you will probably do better than you think you can, as i said I got 4 points from 3 categories and my french is rubbish, . just dont guess and remember as you progress through the test the questions get harder.
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Originally Posted by Bethan2
Hi Adele, as for the rest of it, not too bad, but the written paper was quite challenging. I did an O-level french many, many years ago and failed!!, on my mock TEF I got to level 3 which is what I'd aimed for (failed O-level 30-odd years ago and only 9 weeks learning french!). I don't yet have my results, I may not have done as well as in the mock, and as you know I couldn't face the spoken test, so I know I've got a long way to go. I think the key is to get example questions and get the TEF book and the tapes (most important!) and also try to do a mock test if you can prior to your actual test, it's quite reassuring. I'm but glad I've made contact with Alliance Francais - they seem great. You're welcome to PM me regarding tapes, etc. I'll be glad to share my limited experience if I can.
Yes I've already got the book and tapes (bought tapes off Kaz on this forum!). Not really listened to them yet, having a busy period at the mo and French has taken a back seat but I hope to get going again in the new year. I need to! I will be sitting my TEF at the Manchester Alliance Francaise so it's good to hear that they are a nice bunch!
Keep me posted with your progress, and if you don't mind then please let me know how you did when you get your results!
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Originally Posted by Bethan2
Actually, I'll confess! I took the TEF in November (after only 9 weeks studying for it) and I chickened out of the Spoken test, so when the results come through there will be a category missing! I knew I wouldn't be able to handle the spoken bit, but I am resolved to working hard at improving my standard and confidence in spoken french. I was aiming at the outset to get two points at this first stage and I hope I did enough in the other categories to get that. I'm a long way off getting 8 points though.
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
Regs - have you taken the TEF yet? how's the studying going?
Good luck with your studies anyway, I bet you are braver than me when it comes to exam time.
Regs - have you taken the TEF yet? how's the studying going?
I have not yet taken the TEF test. I started studying French only in Sept this year, ie after submitting my application in Aug. I have finished 2 levels and the 3rd level is in progress.
I had a talk with my teacher, she said i have to do atleast 4 levels for "basic" and atleast 8 levels for "moderate" level in TEF. That is going to take the whole of 2006. The TEF exams are conduted only twice a year over here. One in June and one in december.
As my AOR specifies 36 months, (36 months will end in 2008 Aug), I have decided to take the test in dec 2006. But i may take the June 2006 exam to get the feel of the test and hence be fully prepared for the Dec exam.
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Originally Posted by Kazphillips
I decided to take the test and send the results in upon receipt. I hope CHC won't ask me to take the test again but if needs be I will. I figured that people aren't being asked to take IELTS again even if their application has taken longer than the results are supposed to be valid for (is this true? I haven't read about anyone being asked to take it again?) so hopefully I have proven my French skills and that will be taken as such.
I kind of wanted to get it over and done with and sent off anyway just in case my application were to get looked at sooner than I had thought.
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I kind of wanted to get it over and done with and sent off anyway just in case my application were to get looked at sooner than I had thought.
Kaz x
My French generally isn't that bad, but what really lets me down is shyness, in that I hate, hate, hate speaking French in front of a native French-speaker. I always think that they'll be laughing at my accent (and in Paris, they are). Does accent count for much at the AF, bearing in mind how humourous the Quebec French can sound if you're not used to it?!
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I totally agree with you about shyness. Lack of confidence was my biggest problem. I was dreading the speaking part so I contacted the alliance francaise and arranged a couple of sessions with a private tutor which really helped.
In the actual speaking exam I was surprised when they said that it was over. I thought that it was no way long enough and in fact I still had loads to say (task was convincing one of the examiners to come to a salsa dancing club with me!!).
My tutor didn't really comment on my accent - I think it was OK. I surprised myself with my remembered vocab but she did say it was mostly a confidence thing!
A bientôt!
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In the actual speaking exam I was surprised when they said that it was over. I thought that it was no way long enough and in fact I still had loads to say (task was convincing one of the examiners to come to a salsa dancing club with me!!).
My tutor didn't really comment on my accent - I think it was OK. I surprised myself with my remembered vocab but she did say it was mostly a confidence thing!
A bientôt!
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My French generally isn't that bad, but what really lets me down is shyness, in that I hate, hate, hate speaking French in front of a native French-speaker. I always think that they'll be laughing at my accent (and in Paris, they are). Does accent count for much at the AF, bearing in mind how humourous the Quebec French can sound if you're not used to it?!
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Originally Posted by Kazphillips
I figured that people aren't being asked to take IELTS again even if their application has taken longer than the results are supposed to be valid for (is this true? I haven't read about anyone being asked to take it again?) so hopefully I have proven my French skills and that will be taken as such.
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Originally Posted by Wannabe
The validity of my IELTS was till about one week after CHC got my application - they never asked me to retake it, and I've got my visa now. ![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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