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Old Apr 29th 2019, 7:46 pm
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My husband and I are wanting to make the move to Canada with our young son from the UK. I am a primary school teacher and he is an environmental health officer so we should be able to do express entry
​​I know there is a previous post about this which i have read through but as it was 8 years ago I wanted to see if current opinion had changed. We met with brazolot migration group on Sunday to look at our options for moving and it all seemed very positive. I wanted to know if people had experience of this or any other company both positive and negative.
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Hi, welcome to BE.

I'd strongly suggest you do a search of the forum for 'Brazolot' to see what's been said about them in the past. If you do need to use a consultant, there are many others that are recommended, but I'm afraid Brazolot are not thought of very highly on here.

But tbh, unless you have very complicated circumstances i.e. a criminal record or medical issues, then there's no reason to use a consultant. The vast majority of people on BE do it themselves, you'll save thousands to put towards the move and you'd have to gather all the paperwork anyway, so using a consultant isn't really worth it unless you need specialist help with an issue. Assuming you've checked your points score and know you're scoring highly enough, then it should be fairly straightforward if you have a 'normal' application.

Presumably you're aware that teaching isn't in demand in Canada and that you may need to change occupations once there?

Best of luck with it.
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Thank you very much for the reply. I will search brazolot specifically rather then just migration consultants.
I am hoping to still work in childcare but I am aware that teachers are not sought after in Canada. I am hoping once we've made the move it will be easier to get supply etc. and then eventually a permenant post.
There are no complications to our application so we will look further into doing it ourselves.
Thanks again
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There are no complications to our application so we will look further into doing it ourselves.
I would recommend it. Having a consultant just adds an unnecessary step, you still have to gather everything and send it to them, so might as well just upload it direct to CIC instead! Plus you've found BE now, so there is always somebody around to help with any questions.

What's your CRS score? Is there any time pressure with regards to losing points due to the principal applicant having a birthday, or are you comfortably over the minimum?
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My husband is 36 and I'm 33 so there is a slight time pressure from what I've gathered. I think we were around 460 on points, or that's what he had worked out at least. The meeting was an information overload!
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My husband is 36 and I'm 33 so there is a slight time pressure from what I've gathered. I think we were around 460 on points, or that's what he had worked out at least. The meeting was an information overload!
OK, so 460 is fine, but yes, you (or your husband, depending on who is the principal applicant) will lose points with the next birthday. Not enough to drop you below the current points threshold though. 460 does seem high, but I'm assuming you have masters degrees, or have worked in Canada before, or something else to boost your points.

Another reason not to use a consultant is to make sure you have all the info yourselves, double check your points score yourself using the official calculator - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...d/crs-tool.asp

Say yes to the question about your language test results, and assume maximum points under IELTS for now as a native speaker, it's just to give you an idea.

HTH.

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Originally Posted by Rachel86
Thank you very much for the reply. I will search brazolot specifically rather then just migration consultants.
I am hoping to still work in childcare but I am aware that teachers are not sought after in Canada. I am hoping once we've made the move it will be easier to get supply etc. and then eventually a permenant post.
There are no complications to our application so we will look further into doing it ourselves.
Thanks again
It's not that teachers are not sought after in Canada. It's that there is a more than adequate supply (specific locations and disciplines notwithstanding) of Canadian trained teachers. Certification (to meet Canadian requirements) and seniority make breaking into teaching as a foreign trained teacher a long term prospect. Ok if you don't need the income, problematic if you do,
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It's not that teachers are not sought after in Canada. It's that there is a more than adequate supply (specific locations and disciplines notwithstanding) of Canadian trained teachers. Certification (to meet Canadian requirements) and seniority make breaking into teaching as a foreign trained teacher a long term prospect. Ok if you don't need the income, problematic if you do,
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Personal experience from family member ...... Canadian, trained at a Canadian university, bachelor's degree in non-educational subject (4 years study), followed by 16 month study for Diploma in Education, registered with the province's College of teachers. Took 17 years to get a permanent position, including moving to several parts of the province, Did get a "temporary 2 year permanent position but that was the longest period of "secure" income during the 17 years.

Note that teachers are hired by the School Board not individual schools, and each province is divided into different School Districts, each of which has its own School Board. Each Province has its own College or Association of Teachers, that is responsible for the certification/registration of teachers.

If you move provinces for any reason other than recruitment by the particular School District, it is likely that you would go to the bottom of the seniority list, although you would stay at the same pay level as in the province you are leaving.

Note that Teachers On Call (TOC) get paid the going rate for permanent teachers, but are not eligible for any benefits .............. . those have all to be arranged privately by the TOC


I suggest you add to your research, googling the College (or Association) of Teachers for each and every province that might interest you.

Someone else may know more about Environmental Health Officer, and what extra steps he might have to take before being allowed to work in Canada, as I think that is also a registered occupation
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Thank you. I will look into that. If anyone has any information on other childcare options for work then I would be very grateful for that too.
From our searches so far my husbands job seems to span many areas of work. We've looked at by law enforcement officers and public health inspectors (essentially inspecting food establishments).
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I know that BC is now requiring Early Childhood Education training, with diploma (or degree) for child care in licensed care in either a large operation or a licensed home child care situation.

There are unlicensed home child care operators around, but the government is trying to stop them.

I do not know about other provinces
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Hi if you need to speak to somebody about the ece licence (if you go that way) then I have my ece licence and I can talk you around how to get it and things, we are in b.c
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We have a great section on teaching in the wiki https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada
... and you can go to: Teaching Certification, by Province: https://www.ctf-fce.ca/en/Pages/TIC/...Territory.aspx

Early Childhood Educator certification, by Province and other information: Online Guide to ECEC Credentialing - Search Results | CCHRSC
In order to work as an environmental health officer, you must be certified with the Canadian Institute of Public Health Inspectors (CIPHI). The certification process includes field placement and written and oral exams. For more information, see the CIPHI website (CIPHI).
https://www.eco.ca/career-profiles/e...ealth-officer/ and CIPHI » Board of Certification
Q. My PHI/EHO education and/or qualifications were obtained outside of Canada. How do I become a Certified Public Health Inspector (Canada)?

A. Please follow this link to the “FAQs for International Applicants“
Then there's https://www.eco.ca/certification/ for Environmental Health Officer!

What NOC are you planning on using for your EE application?
NOC 2011 - 2263 - Inspectors in public and environmental health and occupational health and safety - Unit group
Public health inspectors employed outside Quebec require certification with the Canadian Institute of Public Health Inspectors.
Occupational health and safety officers may require certification with the Association for Canadian Registered Safety Professionals.
https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketrepo...ts/22679/22437


Edited to add, a simple search on BE will show you the general consensus with regards to the Immigration group you mentioned... barge pole.. would about sum it up! Express Entry is a simplified application for the pool, all done online, once you are invited from the pool, the rest of the application is straightforwards! First step is to double check your points using the CRS tool.. you either have the points to get an invite or you don't and no Immigration Consultant can conjure up points that don't exist - for ways of increasing your points that could add to your chances of being picked - or suggestions of other routes that might work for you, well.... you can get the advice for free right here - from the hundreds of people who have been through the process or those that work in the industry and offer their advice at no charge.

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Originally Posted by Tamasin1
Hi if you need to speak to somebody about the ece licence (if you go that way) then I have my ece licence and I can talk you around how to get it and things, we are in b.c
That would be really useful thank you. From the points that have come out of this discussion it seems that is a more viable option than teaching. For various reasons it would be my preferred choice too.
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
We have a great section on teaching in the wiki https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada
... and you can go to: Teaching Certification, by Province: https://www.ctf-fce.ca/en/Pages/TIC/...Territory.aspx

Early Childhood Educator certification, by Province and other information: Online Guide to ECEC Credentialing - Search Results | CCHRSC
In order to work as an environmental health officer, you must be certified with the Canadian Institute of Public Health Inspectors (CIPHI). The certification process includes field placement and written and oral exams. For more information, see the CIPHI website (CIPHI).
https://www.eco.ca/career-profiles/e...ealth-officer/ and CIPHI » Board of Certification
Q. My PHI/EHO education and/or qualifications were obtained outside of Canada. How do I become a Certified Public Health Inspector (Canada)?

A. Please follow this link to the “FAQs for International Applicants“
Then there's https://www.eco.ca/certification/ for Environmental Health Officer!

What NOC are you planning on using for your EE application?
NOC 2011 - 2263 - Inspectors in public and environmental health and occupational health and safety - Unit group
Public health inspectors employed outside Quebec require certification with the Canadian Institute of Public Health Inspectors.
Occupational health and safety officers may require certification with the Association for Canadian Registered Safety Professionals.
https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketrepo...ts/22679/22437

Yes we've been looking at those jobs. I think we need to get in touch with one of the recognised institutes and see how his degree and qualifications would stand up in Canada. We're hoping his degree and experience in the UK plus a block of practice and an exam would allow him to be qualified for those jobs.

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Sorry to all who are trying to help, as you can see I had a serious error on the two above quotes!
Thank you again for your time and much appreciated patience
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