lose of PR status

Old May 5th 2003, 4:21 pm
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Egi
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Hello everyone,

I have a permanent resident status but I am
know working in Japan. It looks like the new
immigration law allows me to have this status
only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
property to leverage my position in case I lose
the status. I reckon I can apply once again
for an immigration visa and have more chances
if I already own something in Canada. I don't
want to leave Japan yet.
What would be your advice on this matter?
Any reply is welcomed.

Egi
 
Old May 5th 2003, 5:34 pm
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Andrew Miller
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Why are you stating that "new law allows you to have status only until Dec
31st 2003"?

Are you absent from Canada since Dec 31, 2000 after becoming a PR prior to
that date?

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Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Egi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello everyone,
    > I have a permanent resident status but I am
    > know working in Japan. It looks like the new
    > immigration law allows me to have this status
    > only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
    > property to leverage my position in case I lose
    > the status. I reckon I can apply once again
    > for an immigration visa and have more chances
    > if I already own something in Canada. I don't
    > want to leave Japan yet.
    > What would be your advice on this matter?
    > Any reply is welcomed.
    > Egi
 
Old May 5th 2003, 9:53 pm
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S B
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Egi wrote:
    >
    > Hello everyone,
    >
    > I have a permanent resident status but I am
    > know working in Japan. It looks like the new
    > immigration law allows me to have this status
    > only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
    > property to leverage my position in case I lose
    > the status. I reckon I can apply once again
    > for an immigration visa and have more chances
    > if I already own something in Canada. I don't
    > want to leave Japan yet.
    > What would be your advice on this matter?
    > Any reply is welcomed.
    >
    > Egi

You cannot "leverage your position." Property in Canada gives you no
benefits whatsoever.

If you don't meet the requirements for maintaining your PR, then you
lose it. If you reapply, you go right to the back of the line like
everyone else and have to meet all the requirements over again just like
everyone else. What's more an immigration officer may look at your
previous abandonment of Canada and make the discretionary position that
you abandoned Canada once, you're likely to do it again and that you're
wasting everyone's time.
 
Old May 6th 2003, 12:18 am
  #4  
pkjmet
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"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Why are you stating that "new law allows you to have status only until Dec
    > 31st 2003"?
    >
    > Are you absent from Canada since Dec 31, 2000 after becoming a PR prior to
    > that date?
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    >
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "Egi" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello everyone,
    > >
    > > I have a permanent resident status but I am
    > > know working in Japan. It looks like the new
    > > immigration law allows me to have this status
    > > only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
    > > property to leverage my position in case I lose
    > > the status. I reckon I can apply once again
    > > for an immigration visa and have more chances
    > > if I already own something in Canada. I don't
    > > want to leave Japan yet.
    > > What would be your advice on this matter?
    > > Any reply is welcomed.
    > >
    > > Egi

I beleive you are talking about a PR Card. Yes you must obtain one if
you want to travel back to Canada from Japan after December 31, 2003.
You will not loose your PR status automatically as there are appeals
etc..

Ownership of property has nothing to do with retaining PR status.


Jim Metcalfe
 
Old May 6th 2003, 6:43 pm
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Egi
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First, thank you all for your replies.

Mr. Miller, that is correct. I landed in Jan 2000 and left a few
weeks later. I had a so-called RRP (Returning Resident Permit)
for two years but last year when I wanted to renew it I have
found out about the new immigration law. No more RRPs, etc.
So I am wandering what can I do not to lose my PR status.
Buying some proerty in Canada does not look like an answer.

Regards,
Egi

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Why are you stating that "new law allows you to have status only until Dec
    > 31st 2003"?
    >
    > Are you absent from Canada since Dec 31, 2000 after becoming a PR prior to
    > that date?
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    >
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
 
Old May 6th 2003, 9:02 pm
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Tom
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You will not loose your PR status on December 31, 2003. The reason,
time spent outside Canada under RRP will count as time spent within
Canada for the purpose of satisfying residency obligation to maintain
PR status. Do your math and count the days again. For details, check
out this link: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/irpa/menu-return.html

Hope this helps. Tom

[email protected] (Egi) wrote in message news:...
    > First, thank you all for your replies.
    >
    > Mr. Miller, that is correct. I landed in Jan 2000 and left a few
    > weeks later. I had a so-called RRP (Returning Resident Permit)
    > for two years but last year when I wanted to renew it I have
    > found out about the new immigration law. No more RRPs, etc.
    > So I am wandering what can I do not to lose my PR status.
    > Buying some proerty in Canada does not look like an answer.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Egi
    >
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > > Why are you stating that "new law allows you to have status only until Dec
    > > 31st 2003"?
    > >
    > > Are you absent from Canada since Dec 31, 2000 after becoming a PR prior to
    > > that date?
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > >
    > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > >
    > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > ________________________________
 
Old May 7th 2003, 12:12 am
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pkjmet
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S B wrote in message news:...
    > Egi wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello everyone,
    > >
    > > I have a permanent resident status but I am
    > > know working in Japan. It looks like the new
    > > immigration law allows me to have this status
    > > only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
    > > property to leverage my position in case I lose
    > > the status. I reckon I can apply once again
    > > for an immigration visa and have more chances
    > > if I already own something in Canada. I don't
    > > want to leave Japan yet.
    > > What would be your advice on this matter?
    > > Any reply is welcomed.
    > >
    > > Egi
    >
    > You cannot "leverage your position." Property in Canada gives you no
    > benefits whatsoever.
    >
    > If you don't meet the requirements for maintaining your PR, then you
    > lose it. If you reapply, you go right to the back of the line like
    > everyone else and have to meet all the requirements over again just like
    > everyone else. What's more an immigration officer may look at your
    > previous abandonment of Canada and make the discretionary position that
    > you abandoned Canada once, you're likely to do it again and that you're
    > wasting everyone's time.

Your RRP means that you will receive credit for says you were oytside
of Canada against the Residence requirment under the new law. However
you should apply for a PR card as you will need one after the end of
this year regardless of whether you had a RRP or not. You shoud be
eligible for a PR card.

Jim Metcalfe
 
Old May 7th 2003, 2:49 am
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Andrew Miller
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Egi is in Japan and doesn't want to come to Canada yet - thus PR Card is out
of question as one must be in Canada to apply for it. Egi can return to
Canada with record of landing until the end of 2003 - after that Travel
Document will have to be obtained from Canadian visa post.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

    > Your RRP means that you will receive credit for says you were oytside
    > of Canada against the Residence requirment under the new law. However
    > you should apply for a PR card as you will need one after the end of
    > this year regardless of whether you had a RRP or not. You shoud be
    > eligible for a PR card.
    > Jim Metcalfe

    > S B wrote in message
news:...
    > > Egi wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hello everyone,
    > > >
    > > > I have a permanent resident status but I am
    > > > know working in Japan. It looks like the new
    > > > immigration law allows me to have this status
    > > > only until Dec 31st 2003. I want to buy a
    > > > property to leverage my position in case I lose
    > > > the status. I reckon I can apply once again
    > > > for an immigration visa and have more chances
    > > > if I already own something in Canada. I don't
    > > > want to leave Japan yet.
    > > > What would be your advice on this matter?
    > > > Any reply is welcomed.
    > > >
    > > > Egi
    > >
    > > You cannot "leverage your position." Property in Canada gives you no
    > > benefits whatsoever.
    > >
    > > If you don't meet the requirements for maintaining your PR, then you
    > > lose it. If you reapply, you go right to the back of the line like
    > > everyone else and have to meet all the requirements over again just like
    > > everyone else. What's more an immigration officer may look at your
    > > previous abandonment of Canada and make the discretionary position that
    > > you abandoned Canada once, you're likely to do it again and that you're
    > > wasting everyone's time.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 2:49 am
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Andrew Miller
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Those 2 years abroad with valid RRP count as days of presence in Canada thus
you already met the residency obligations for your first 5 years period
since landing, assuming that RRP was valid for at least 2 years. If this is
the case then you have plenty of time to return to Canada (till January of
2005) - all you need is to apply for Travel Document (facilitating your
return to Canada after 2003) through Canadian visa post as your landing
paper will not be valid past 2003.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"Egi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > First, thank you all for your replies.
    > Mr. Miller, that is correct. I landed in Jan 2000 and left a few
    > weeks later. I had a so-called RRP (Returning Resident Permit)
    > for two years but last year when I wanted to renew it I have
    > found out about the new immigration law. No more RRPs, etc.
    > So I am wandering what can I do not to lose my PR status.
    > Buying some proerty in Canada does not look like an answer.
    > Regards,
    > Egi
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Why are you stating that "new law allows you to have status only until
Dec
    > > 31st 2003"?
    > >
    > > Are you absent from Canada since Dec 31, 2000 after becoming a PR prior
to
    > > that date?
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > >
    > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > >
    > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > ________________________________
 
Old May 7th 2003, 7:14 am
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If you don't even want to live in Canada, then why are you so concerned about your status? You don't need it if you don't live here. Please don't abuse the system.
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Old May 7th 2003, 5:15 pm
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Egi
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Interested wrote in message news:...
    > If you don't even want to live in Canada, then why are you so concerned
    > about your status? You don't need it if you don't live here. Please
    > don't abuse the system.


It is hard to judge someone else based on a few written lines only.
Let me explain. Fact is, I surely want to live in Canada but
I have some contractual obligations to fulfill here in Japan.
That's all. Besides, I have family here, etc. I cannot simply
jump on the first plane.

Thank you so much Mr. Miller. I didn't know that the days covered
by a RRP can be counted in such a way. It is so good to have
a knowledgeable person contributing to the quality and the style
of this newsgroup.


Best regards,
Egi
 

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