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Old Jun 3rd 2008, 2:16 am
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Question LMO in Ontario

hi guys,

I have been offered a contractual full time job offer from a college in Toronto

I was simply wondering if it is possible to obtain an LMO and hence a work permit based on a contractual job offer or does it need to be permanent ??

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Old Jun 3rd 2008, 3:19 am
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Don't quote me on this but you have to be offered a temporay job offer, hence applying for a Temp Work Permit.

Hope this is of help.

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You would struggle to get a TWP if the job offer was permanent - as a Temporary Work Permit is supposed to be just that, temporary!!

So a contract role is ideal for applying for a TWP. The tricky bit might be getting the LMO - don't forget that your employer will need to prove that they have advertised the job across Canada for a few months, and that no Canadian is willing, or able, to do the job.

Hope that helps, good luck.
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I have just recieved a Positive LMO for a job in Peterborough, Ontario. I believe the employer has to do only 1 thing. The employer has to advertise a vacancy for 7 days on the below website.

http://www.jobsetc.ca/

When they advertise the vacancy, Service Canada also display the ad on a few other related job sites.

Hope this helps. Good luck in finding an employer who is willing to put in a little effort!
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Originally Posted by NBJW
I have just recieved a Positive LMO for a job in Peterborough, Ontario. I believe the employer has to do only 1 thing. The employer has to advertise a vacancy for 7 days on the below website.

http://www.jobsetc.ca/

When they advertise the vacancy, Service Canada also display the ad on a few other related job sites.

Hope this helps. Good luck in finding an employer who is willing to put in a little effort!
Yes but presumably your job is on the OUP list, hence why they only had to advertise it for 7 days? If a job is not on the OUP (as the majority of them aren't) then I believe it has to be advertised for 3 months.
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Thanks for the advice guys,

Are their any good websites explaining the immigration part of it ??

i.e. you need a contractual job offer and this will be OK for a work permit.

would be great just so i can see the best options
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Errr.......how about this website?!?

Check out the Wiki (top of page) which will tell you absolutely everything you need to know about immigration and a whole lot more besides!

Good luck.

I'd recommend you start with these pages which are all relevant to your situation, but it would be best to must make yourself a cuppa and settle down for a long read as lots of others will be relevant too!

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Quick_...an_Immigration

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Category:Work_Permits

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Catego...Market_Opinion
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My employer (environmental consultant) in Ottawa today refused to hire me as they said they've been told by some immigration lawyer they consulted that the LMO process takes much longer than the 15-20 days as given in CIC or HRSDC website. Is that true that in Ottawa it can take longer than that? Any advice on average time for current LMO response in Ottawa?
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Originally Posted by saskbong
My employer (environmental consultant) in Ottawa today refused to hire me as they said they've been told by some immigration lawyer they consulted that the LMO process takes much longer than the 15-20 days as given in CIC or HRSDC website. Is that true that in Ottawa it can take longer than that? Any advice on average time for current LMO response in Ottawa?
It's taking longer than that I believe (months in Alberta!), unless you're applying for an E-LMO or the employer has pre-approval for LMO's. But I don't know if Ontario is quicker?

Just did a search of the forum and the following thread may be useful, in which people give their LMO timelines.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...t=lmo+timeline

Hope that helps, good luck.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
It's taking longer than that I believe (months in Alberta!), unless you're applying for an E-LMO or the employer has pre-approval for LMO's. But I don't know if Ontario is quicker?

Just did a search of the forum and the following thread may be useful, in which people give their LMO timelines.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...t=lmo+timeline

Hope that helps, good luck.
Thanks for that link. Looks like it's going to take 6 weeks at least in ON. But is it true that chances of getting a positive LMO is virtually nil if there was even one Canadian applicant who met the eligibility criteria? I mean, assuming there were just two applicants - me and the Canadian candidate, and for some reason the employer preferred me, will that not make any difference?
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Originally Posted by saskbong
Thanks for that link. Looks like it's going to take 6 weeks at least in ON. But is it true that chances of getting a positive LMO is virtually nil if there was even one Canadian applicant who met the eligibility criteria? I mean, assuming there were just two applicants - me and the Canadian candidate, and for some reason the employer preferred me, will that not make any difference?
I'm pretty sure that they'd need to have a very good reason for hiring you instead of a Canadian - basically, the Canadian would have to be unqualified for the job or similar. They can't choose you to do a job if there is even one qualified Canadian that has applied from what I understand - or at least they could but they wouldn't stand any chance of getting LMO. TWP's are supposed to be purely for jobs that can't be filled by Canadians so you either need to be in a job that is very much in demand over there (so more vacancies than candidates) or have specialised knowledge to get a TWP.

Hope that helps.
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It is definately worth applying for an LMO, even if you think there is a chance it might not be approved.

I do IT tech support in Ontario, just north of Toronto. My employer advertised for about 2 weeks and they had around 200 applicants. It isn't an occupation under pressure and I didn't think I had a chance for LMO but applied anyway.

I got a 3 year TWP.
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Originally Posted by xxKellyxx
It is definately worth applying for an LMO, even if you think there is a chance it might not be approved.

I do IT tech support in Ontario, just north of Toronto. My employer advertised for about 2 weeks and they had around 200 applicants. It isn't an occupation under pressure and I didn't think I had a chance for LMO but applied anyway.

I got a 3 year TWP.
Yes but if I recall correctly you were already in the job via Bunac before you applied for TWP/LMO?? So they could prove that you were the best applicant for the job as you were already doing it!
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Yes but if I recall correctly you were already in the job via Bunac before you applied for TWP/LMO?? So they could prove that you were the best applicant for the job as you were already doing it!
But a similar situation applies for me too!!! I told my employer that I can start working for that position from mid June on my offcampus work permit. Offcampus student work permit allows a student to work fulltime during scheduled breaks (lke summer etc.). So if I get them to hold off the LMO application for say a month to mid-July, could a better argument be made on the fact that I have already have had a one monoth work experience in that position which no qualified Canadian applicant has?
Please note that I'd be recruited in the same permanent position for which the actual job is advertised, with the employer knowing that I could be hired without the need for TWP only for 4 months. He felt that for the period for which he didn't have to worry about work permits, I was clearly the favored person. So will a second aspect go against my chances of a positive LMO that - why did the employer hire someone for a temporary permit for a permanent position? Like will my working as a temporary worker as a foreigner seem like a backhanded process to get some work exp for a positive LMO later on?

And a general question - even if I have been offered a permanent position, do I state on the LMO application that it is such, or that it is a temporary one (to be consistent with the ' *temporary* foreign worker permit ' )?

Thanks to all who might have something to share on this!!
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Yes but if I recall correctly you were already in the job via Bunac before you applied for TWP/LMO?? So they could prove that you were the best applicant for the job as you were already doing it!
Yes, I was on BUNAC. So if someone goes on BUNAC and gets any job within NOC code A, B or O, they can apply for LMO as they can prove they are the best applicant for the job??
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