Lacking PR Card

Old Jan 1st 2004, 2:02 pm
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Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 1st 2004, 2:10 pm
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Go here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/prc-status.html

and read section titled Facts.

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    > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 1st 2004, 2:24 pm
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is there any way that i can get PR card processed faster than usual if i am
planning to travel soon?

joy
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    > Go here:
    > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/prc-status.html
    > and read section titled Facts.
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    > "asif" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 1st 2004, 3:11 pm
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/urgent-cases.html

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"Joy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > is there any way that i can get PR card processed faster than usual if i
am
    > planning to travel soon?
    > joy
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:Ui5Jb.55140$6b2.40423@edtnps84...
    > > Go here:
    > >
    > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/prc-status.html
    > >
    > > and read section titled Facts.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "asif" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > > the new PR card?
    > >
    > >
 
Old Jan 1st 2004, 5:18 pm
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in a recent article, asif ([email protected]) said:

    > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > the new PR card?

If you're on a common carrier (i.e. Bus), then they will refuse to carry
you. If you're in a private car, nothing at all. But this has already been
answered numerous times before.

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Old Jan 1st 2004, 10:00 pm
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It depends on his/her passport...

asif wrote:
    > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 1st 2004, 10:02 pm
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It depends on his/her passport...

asif wrote:

    > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 7th 2004, 10:46 am
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After all these postings, there is still no clear answer on whether
landed immigrants from visa exempt countries can travel to canada with
the old IM1000 (long paper) to prove they are landed immigrants. In
the website, it says they would need a travel document unless they
travel by car. Any other term of transpotaion, they will need the PR
card or the Travel document to enter Canada. I called the Canadian
Consulate here and they said, all landed immigrants need a travel
document to enter Canada no matter where they are from, exempt OR none
exempt countries, if they DONT have a PR card. Any comments?



Goodnews <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > It depends on his/her passport...
    >
    > asif wrote:
    >
    > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 7th 2004, 10:57 am
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You are missing the points and confusing two completely separate matters.

One is the travel to Canada itself - to board the plane person must be a
Canadian citizen (holding Canadian passport, Canadian PR (holding PR Card or
Travel Document and his/her national passport), to have passport from the
country on visa waiver list or to have valid Canadian visa in the passport
from the country not on visa waiver list. That is all. So, if a Canadian PR
who doesn't have PR Card nor TD but has a passport from the country on visa
waiver list wants to fly to Canada then s/he will have no problem boarding
such plane.

Second issue is admission to Canada - anything what can document that person
is a PR will be accepted (PR Card, old IMM 1000, new landing confirmation).

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"Mk2002" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > After all these postings, there is still no clear answer on whether
    > landed immigrants from visa exempt countries can travel to canada with
    > the old IM1000 (long paper) to prove they are landed immigrants. In
    > the website, it says they would need a travel document unless they
    > travel by car. Any other term of transpotaion, they will need the PR
    > card or the Travel document to enter Canada. I called the Canadian
    > Consulate here and they said, all landed immigrants need a travel
    > document to enter Canada no matter where they are from, exempt OR none
    > exempt countries, if they DONT have a PR card. Any comments?
    > Goodnews <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > It depends on his/her passport...
    > >
    > > asif wrote:
    > >
    > > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 7th 2004, 11:42 am
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So the long and short is,if your passport allows visa free travel to Canada,
then you can travel.
That should be precise and clear :-)



"Mk2002" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > After all these postings, there is still no clear answer on whether
    > landed immigrants from visa exempt countries can travel to canada with
    > the old IM1000 (long paper) to prove they are landed immigrants. In
    > the website, it says they would need a travel document unless they
    > travel by car. Any other term of transpotaion, they will need the PR
    > card or the Travel document to enter Canada. I called the Canadian
    > Consulate here and they said, all landed immigrants need a travel
    > document to enter Canada no matter where they are from, exempt OR none
    > exempt countries, if they DONT have a PR card. Any comments?
    > Goodnews <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > It depends on his/her passport...
    > >
    > > asif wrote:
    > >
    > > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 12:37 am
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My two cents worth:

The right to board a carrier is determined by the staff of the carrier and
despite protestations that you do not need a PR card or a TD you will
probably still have a problem.


Jim Metcalfe





"Mk2002" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > After all these postings, there is still no clear answer on whether
    > landed immigrants from visa exempt countries can travel to canada with
    > the old IM1000 (long paper) to prove they are landed immigrants. In
    > the website, it says they would need a travel document unless they
    > travel by car. Any other term of transpotaion, they will need the PR
    > card or the Travel document to enter Canada. I called the Canadian
    > Consulate here and they said, all landed immigrants need a travel
    > document to enter Canada no matter where they are from, exempt OR none
    > exempt countries, if they DONT have a PR card. Any comments?
    > Goodnews <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > It depends on his/her passport...
    > >
    > > asif wrote:
    > >
    > > > Lacking permanent resident card gets people turned away from flights
    > > > home. What is going to happen if someone comes on ROAD from US without
    > > > the new PR card?
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 1:02 pm
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"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news: k11Lb.184168$ss5.128800@clgrps13...
    > So, if a Canadian PR
    > who doesn't have PR Card nor TD but has a passport from the country on
visa
    > waiver list wants to fly to Canada then s/he will have no problem boarding
    > such plane.

That's not completly correct. Some airline policies state that they will
not let you board the aircraft or at the very least give you alot of grief
if you do not hold a return or onward ticket to a destination of which you
have the right of entry to outside of Canada even if you hold a passport
which does not require a visa to enter Canada.

That is what happened to me 18 months ago at Glasgow airport flying to
Toronto. It took alot of explaining and negociating with airport managers
and security officials before they would let me board the plane, despite the
fact I provided my IM1000, Quebec drivers licience, health card, phone and
electricity bill as evidence that I lived and had the right to live in
Canada.

Ashley Watson
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 11:36 pm
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Hi James
Air Canada's 'official' view can be found here:
http://www.aircanada.ca/planning/before/traveldoc.html

Assuming they're happy to board visa exempt people on one-way tickets as
a general principle - and I don't see anything on the CIC site that
requires a return ticket from visitors - would they even need to ask if
the person is a PR or not?

If a person runs into a problem with the check-in clerk, usually the
next step is to get a supervisor/manager involved. And preferably have
a printout of the airline's 'official' view and/or the CIC policy manual
page that states that a visa-exempt passport in itself is ok to board a
Canada bound flight.

I generally say to visa exempt people to get the PR Card anyway. And if
overseas without a PR Card, try to get a TD anyway. Keeps life simpler.
However, the option of trying to board a flight with just visa
exempt passport seems to be open.


>James Metcalfe wrote:
    > My two cents worth:
    >
    > The right to board a carrier is determined by the staff of the carrier and
    > despite protestations that you do not need a PR card or a TD you will
    > probably still have a problem.
    >
    >
    > Jim Metcalfe
    >
    >
    >
 
Old Jan 9th 2004, 5:09 am
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Hi JAJ

"JAJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi James
    > Air Canada's 'official' view can be found here:
    > http://www.aircanada.ca/planning/before/traveldoc.html
    > Assuming they're happy to board visa exempt people on one-way tickets as
    > a general principle - and I don't see anything on the CIC site that
    > requires a return ticket from visitors - would they even need to ask if
    > the person is a PR or not?
    > If a person runs into a problem with the check-in clerk, usually the
    > next step is to get a supervisor/manager involved. And preferably have
    > a printout of the airline's 'official' view and/or the CIC policy manual
    > page that states that a visa-exempt passport in itself is ok to board a
    > Canada bound flight.
    > I generally say to visa exempt people to get the PR Card anyway. And if
    > overseas without a PR Card, try to get a TD anyway. Keeps life simpler.
    > However, the option of trying to board a flight with just visa
    > exempt passport seems to be open.
    > >James Metcalfe wrote:
    > > My two cents worth:
    > >
    > > The right to board a carrier is determined by the staff of the carrier
and
    > > despite protestations that you do not need a PR card or a TD you will
    > > probably still have a problem.
    > >
    > >
    > > Jim Metcalfe

The problem with the one-ticket for PRs without a Card or TD and Visa exempt
is the airline is very reluctant to carry them. If the "visitor" is refused
entry, the airline is responsible for returning them to their point of
embarkation, and the airlines don't like to bear the cost, whereas with a
return ticket, their costs are covered.

PMM
 
Old Jan 9th 2004, 7:46 pm
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Jaj
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Hi PMM
Are you saying that if someone is a tourist with a visa exempt passport,
such as Australian, they won't be allowed by the airline to board a
flight to Canada if they don't have a return ticket?

I looked for a requirement for visitors to have a return ticket on the
CIC site and couldn't find none. Granted, lack of a return ticket will
lead to questions from a CIC officer at Immigration, but surely the
airline has abided by its own obligations?

Jeremy

    > The problem with the one-ticket for PRs without a Card or TD and Visa exempt
    > is the airline is very reluctant to carry them. If the "visitor" is refused
    > entry, the airline is responsible for returning them to their point of
    > embarkation, and the airlines don't like to bear the cost, whereas with a
    > return ticket, their costs are covered.
    >
    > PMM
    >
    >
 

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