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Old Mar 27th 2021, 6:02 pm
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Hi,

So since my last post asking for advice and info, I'm happy to say my partner had an interview with a company in Kelowna BC and after a 2 week anxious wait we found out he had been offered the job. He falls into the Federal Skilled Worker Express Entry category with a NOC 0016 and the company are willing and able to back up our application into the EE pool with a written job offer detailing all the information needed.

Today we both attended our IELTS exams which we had already booked prior to him applying for the job so once we have those results back in 13days we will be able to upload those to our EE application and then send it. Once that's done we will then register with the BC PNP and apply for nomination in the hope of speeding up being drawn out of the pool. Does anyone have any experience or information or advice on whay a realistic time frame would be for us to get drawn out of the pool?

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Congrats on the job offer! How quickly he’ll be given an ITA will depend on what he’s scoring? If he’s scoring enough you may find he gets an invite under the FSW program with no need to register for BC PNP.

Note that just a written job offer isn’t enough for the job offer to count for points under EE though - he’ll need a LMIA too.

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Thanks for the info...do you know if he would need and LMIA to get the BC PNP? Also if the job offer is a permanent one would he still require an LMIA?
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Thanks for the info...do you know if he would need and LMIA to get the BC PNP? Also if the job offer is a permanent one would he still require an LMIA?
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He wouldn’t need a LMIA for PNP, no. He’ll need his employers support but no LMIA is required.

HTH.
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The LMIA is a requirement showing that there is no Canadian qualified and willing for the job anywhere in Canada, not just in BC.

The company has to show that it has advertised widely for a period of months, that there have been no applicants or no qualified applicants. This process takes a matter of months and costs the company around $1000.

You and your husband have nothing to do with that process, the company has to do it all.

The PNP would definitely be better than that!
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The LMIA is a requirement showing that there is no Canadian qualified and willing for the job anywhere in Canada, not just in BC.

The company has to show that it has advertised widely for a period of months, that there have been no applicants or no qualified applicants. This process takes a matter of months and costs the company around $1000.

You and your husband have nothing to do with that process, the company has to do it all.

The PNP would definitely be better than that!
Fee for PNP is $1,150, employer also has to prove they’ve advertised the job and can’t find anybody locally to do it, and takes 2-3 months once submitted. Not really much difference to the LMIA process tbh!
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Fee for PNP is $1,150, employer also has to prove they’ve advertised the job and can’t find anybody locally to do it, and takes 2-3 months once submitted. Not really much difference to the LMIA process tbh!
So the company had the job advertised for quote some time before interviewing my other half. They agreed to support his application but can you clarify something for me...

I thought to enter the BC PNP we had to be in the EE pool so we were ready for paying the EE pool fee and then the PNP fee. However, after looking again after what info you gave I found that you can just register and apply to the BC PNP without the EE pool...firstly is that correct and secondly is it worth entering both or just going straight for the BC PNP?

Thanks again you guys are whizzes when it comes to this info!
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Originally Posted by just_jen_1986
Hi,

So since my last post asking for advice and info, I'm happy to say my partner had an interview with a company in Kelowna BC and after a 2 week anxious wait we found out he had been offered the job. He falls into the Federal Skilled Worker Express Entry category with a NOC 0016 and the company are willing and able to back up our application into the EE pool with a written job offer detailing all the information needed.

Today we both attended our IELTS exams which we had already booked prior to him applying for the job so once we have those results back in 13days we will be able to upload those to our EE application and then send it. Once that's done we will then register with the BC PNP and apply for nomination in the hope of speeding up being drawn out of the pool. Does anyone have any experience or information or advice on whay a realistic time frame would be for us to get drawn out of the pool?

Thanks in advance
Getting the job offer is quite an achievement - well done! What is the exact job description/title? Do be sure he meets all the requirements to be able to use NOC 0016 for PR Express Entry purposes.. one of the others mentioned might be a better fit.. for him to claim a NOC code he'll need to prove he does at least half of the 'main duties', and meets the criteria in the opening paragraph... and will he need certification in BC? (see your previous thread - Which NOC do we fall into? )

You might find our wiki to be of use - will you have enough points (currently you would need in the region of 460 points) to obtain PR without BC PNP nomination ? https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Quick..._by_step_guide

If the job is as Aborist - he might be able to use the job offer to apply under EE FSW Trades, which would have a lower points requirement.

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I thought to enter the BC PNP we had to be in the EE pool so we were ready for paying the EE pool fee and then the PNP fee.
There's no fee to enter the EE pool.

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However, after looking again after what info you gave I found that you can just register and apply to the BC PNP without the EE pool...firstly is that correct and secondly is it worth entering both or just going straight for the BC PNP?
Yes, he can just potentially apply to the BC PNP, if eligible. But just bear in mind that will be under the old 'paper based' system rather than EE, so will take longer to get PR.

What's he scoring on both scores (CRS and PNP)?

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Siouxie yeah we knew that the chance of even being offered an interview nevermind a job whilst in the UK with no permit would be near impossible so I'm super proud of him for nailing the interview and getting the position. So his job in Kelowna will be District Manager for the entire area of Kelownas tree work within the company which incorporates two roles really, the arb manager and the sales manager so managing the financial side of he area too. We checked all the duties on the NOC 0016 and he says he currently does every single one of the duties listed within his current role here in the UK and that the description of the job offer he has been made matches up with each duty outlined in the NOC 0016 too.
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Siouxie yeah we knew that the chance of even being offered an interview nevermind a job whilst in the UK with no permit would be near impossible so I'm super proud of him for nailing the interview and getting the position. So his job in Kelowna will be District Manager for the entire area of Kelownas tree work within the company which incorporates two roles really, the arb manager and the sales manager so managing the financial side of he area too. We checked all the duties on the NOC 0016 and he says he currently does every single one of the duties listed within his current role here in the UK and that the description of the job offer he has been made matches up with each duty outlined in the NOC 0016 too.
Will he be hands on at all, or is this purely an office role? Will he be supervising teams of arborists on site or working alone?

It's not the job description that has to match up with the duties for that NOC code - his previous working experience has to. He will have to prove that he has the experience already to claim that NOC code - by having letters from former employers / contracts of employment showing duties he performed etc., (it's quite specific).



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Will he be hands on at all, or is this purely an office role? Will he be supervising teams of arborists on site or working alone?

It's not the job description that has to match up with the duties for that NOC code - his previous working experience has to. He will have to prove that he has the experience already to claim that NOC code - by having letters from former employers / contracts of employment showing duties he performed etc., (it's quite specific).
No he won't be doing any trade work or manual work the closest he will get to site is going out prior to winning the contract to weigh up the job and sort the pricing out thats it. From there he will delegate contracts he has won to a middle manager who will then be in charge of the team of arborists carrying out the work. He has been doing this management role here in the UK since 2015 where he goes into the role which has all the equipment and men but is lacking in the driving force needed to make a profit so he creates company policy and procedures, he does the finance side of it so that turnover is increased, he organises company structure etc. He has already received 2 references from two of his previous employers and the other employers have agreed to provide the information he would need to persue the route we hoped to take. I suppose the only reason being an arborist had been mentioned within my previous posts was because its the only trade hes ever been involved in from leaving school and has literally worked his way up through the rankings to finally in the last 5/6yrs be a manager within arboriculture.
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