Job not what we thought it was

Old Jul 26th 2013, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by Aqua
Also the recruitment consultants, maybe they should be more honest about the pros and cons of migrating!

Why would they? If they discourage applicants, they lose money. If the job doesn't work out, then the employer would pay them another fee to find another candidate.
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Why would they? If they discourage applicants, they lose money. If the job doesn't work out, then the employer would pay them another fee to find another candidate.
+1. Not their worries ... Au contraire
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Originally Posted by Aqua
Also the recruitment consultants, maybe they should be more honest about the pros and cons of migrating!
Then you could say recruitment agencies should be honest about the pros and cons of a job or career. People have to be responsible for themselves, the pros and cons of immigration have never been easier to find out for oneself.

Immigration is a risk, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. One persons expectations may be different to another's. an immigration consultant guides one through the paperwork and getting visas, they do not replace due diligence on the part of the applicant.
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Old Jul 30th 2013, 4:57 am
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Just thought I woul update everyone. Got a reply back from SINP, sounds a bit more hopeful if the worst comes to the worst.

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If you are wishing to change your job offer you must inform us that you are wishing to change it. You would need to provide us with a new job offer and job approval letter. You would need to make sure that your new job offer still qualifies you under the skilled worker category. The new employer would not need an LMO as you applied under the skilled work permit category not the existing work permit category. Once that is received it will be reviewed and a revision to your nomination will possibly follow. This will allow you to change your work permit. If you don’t inform us of the change and CIC goes to verify your job that you have on file your application for permanent residence can be denied.

Your new employer, must register online and receive pre-approval for your job before your application can proceed. Your employer may register at :https://www.apps.gov.sk.ca/apex/f?p=310:1 Your employer can find more information by visiting http://www.saskimmigrationcanada.ca/employers. **

So, if negotiations on salary are not fruitful at least we know he can look for alternative employment. All be it it sounds a bit time consuming but can be done. The only thing we need to know now is if he can remain with his present employer whilst going thought this process. This is the one bit they didn't answer so off to send another email.lol

Thanks to everyone for their comments and support, it's helpful to know you are not on your own when going through something like this.

The last thing I want is to put other potential immigrants to Canada off coming here. Generally it is a great place and we really like it here, the people are lovely and the lifestyle is good. We did our research before we came out, in fact it was two years of expos, visits, searches, speaking to people etc before we decided. Even the employer we thought we had researched inside out, to the point we actually came out last year and visited the area and spent a few days with the employer. We stayed locally and asked around about the company, checked adverts and company details. This said it does not equip you with actually knowing a person or how a company is run, things we think of as normal practice don't exist and are often done on An adhoc basis. This does not mean it is wrong or bad it simply means it is different and we are the newcomers so its up to us to adjust. But, this does not mean things can be changed on the basis of "well the person who was taking a back seat has now decided he doesn't want to do that so actually we just need you to do this instead," oh and by the way that means we will reduce your wages.

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Originally Posted by manitobain
Unless SK is totally different (which I don't think it is), once you have your provincial nomination, you don't need an LMO when switching jobs. You do need however a support letter from the nominating Province, so yes, best to contact them and ask how to move forward.
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You say you like it here and want to stay, by now then you know it's all about who you know and you may well find that if hubby goes to the media, or the union or the government about the job being not as described word will get out (probably via the unscrupulous employer!) and that will poison the well for hubby getting another job.

We had a similar issue upon landing in Vancouver and hubby getting his qualifications in Canada sorted we were told actually the guaranteed weekly wage of $x a week didn't exist and if there is no work there is no cash. We had a twp tied to that employer and hubby reached out to other companies in the area but the one who had work couldn't get the paperwork signed in time for our safety net flight home so we had to unemigrate after just 8 weeks (three kids in tow, including an autistic pathalogocally adverse to change!!!)

Just as well hubby didn't kick off as the company that wanted him chased us until hubby agreed to take the plunge again and came back to Canada. Bc pnp changed the nomination to the new company and hubby explained at the airport why he needed another visa (1st job didn't work out so I went home to avoid violating terms of my visa) has been there over a year now and we followed him (me and kids) after 4 months when he made some cash.

We lost every penny we had and it ruined us financially, however, we are getting there now and other than spitting when I say the name of the other company I've mostly let it go. We are in Canada, happy and not working for those lying &£%#'s

I hope your hubby can resolve the situation, with a minimum of unpleasantness because unfair or not it's him that will look bad.
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Originally Posted by __TJ__
You say you like it here and want to stay, by now then you know it's all about who you know and you may well find that if hubby goes to the media, or the union or the government about the job being not as described word will get out (probably via the unscrupulous employer!) and that will poison the well for hubby getting another job.

We had a similar issue upon landing in Vancouver and hubby getting his qualifications in Canada sorted we were told actually the guaranteed weekly wage of $x a week didn't exist and if there is no work there is no cash. We had a twp tied to that employer and hubby reached out to other companies in the area but the one who had work couldn't get the paperwork signed in time for our safety net flight home so we had to unemigrate after just 8 weeks (three kids in tow, including an autistic pathalogocally adverse to change!!!)

Just as well hubby didn't kick off as the company that wanted him chased us until hubby agreed to take the plunge again and came back to Canada. Bc pnp changed the nomination to the new company and hubby explained at the airport why he needed another visa (1st job didn't work out so I went home to avoid violating terms of my visa) has been there over a year now and we followed him (me and kids) after 4 months when he made some cash.

We lost every penny we had and it ruined us financially, however, we are getting there now and other than spitting when I say the name of the other company I've mostly let it go. We are in Canada, happy and not working for those lying &£%#'s

I hope your hubby can resolve the situation, with a minimum of unpleasantness because unfair or not it's him that will look bad.
Thereby leaving the lying company able to screw over another sucker.
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
Thereby leaving the lying company able to screw over another sucker.
Careful how it is said, potential lawsuits, at the least industry pariah all spring to mind.

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Careful how it is said, potential lawsuits, at the least industry pariah all spring to mind.
Huh?
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
Huh?
Unless you have deffintive proof of wrong doing then bad mouthing a company could result in a lawsuit for defamation/slander, libel etc. Also companys talk and depending on the industry your in it could end up with a black mark against your name. So although TJ and her OH may have loved to have gotten some revenge on the reckless employer over the issue, they thought better of it in respect to career damage and possibel legal comeback
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Unless you have deffintive proof of wrong doing then bad mouthing a company could result in a lawsuit for defamation/slander, libel etc. Also companys talk and depending on the industry your in it could end up with a black mark against your name. So although TJ and her OH may have loved to have gotten some revenge on the reckless employer over the issue, they thought better of it in respect to career damage and possibel legal comeback
If she has definitive proof she should a. be saying anything on here and b. should really let the authorities know (imo). I assume if someone is calling a company a liar they have a good reason for doing so.

There are ethical companies and notso ethical companies. I don't agree that calling an unethical company out would necessarily be a blackmark against the whistle blower. Chances are if it's unethical in how it employs people, it's unethical in other areas as well.

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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
If she has definitive proof she should a. be saying anything on here and b. should really let the authorities know (imo). I assume if someone is calling a company a liar they have a good reason for doing so.

There are ethical companies and notso ethical companies. I don't agree that calling an unethical company out would necessarily be a blackmark against the whistle blower.
It does happen though - as indicated by this article in the Calgary Herald.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/al...502/story.html

"... A Calgary-area company violated the province’s privacy law by collecting and selling a truck driver’s work history — including drug test results and the reasons she was fired from jobs — to prospective employers without her consent.

Professional Drivers Bureau of Canada Inc. was ordered recently by Alberta’s privacy watchdog to expunge all the records it collected on the unidentified woman who complained about the firm’s practices after being unable to secure new work... "
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
If she has definitive proof she should a. be saying anything on here and b. should really let the authorities know (imo). I assume if someone is calling a company a liar they have a good reason for doing so.

There are ethical companies and notso ethical companies. I don't agree that calling an unethical company out would necessarily be a blackmark against the whistle blower. Chances are if it's unethical in how it employs people, it's unethical in other areas as well.
Feeling misled or that a company was unethical is a far cry from proving it in a court of law if sued, not to mention the costs involved even if you have the moral high ground.

We try to be an ethical employer, but if we do get into a spat, we have insurance to pay the legal bills, insurance companies have deep pockets.

There is a lot of networking in business and word gets round faster than we might think.
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