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Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

Old Oct 20th 2003, 9:44 pm
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Mapleleaffan
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Default Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

I have over 5 yrs experience in the United States working with small
companies and with Fortune 500 companies. I would like to migrate,
and I am wondering what the job market is like. I have experience
with Weblogic and Websphere, and most of my experience has been
short-term contracts(2-6months) and in one case the company ( a
dotcom) went under, any advice?
 
Old Oct 21st 2003, 11:20 am
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Abw
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import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;
public class drivingTaxis extends hardknockLives{
public static void main(String args[]){
System.out.println("Do I need to say more???");
}
}


[email protected] (MapleLeafFan) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > I have over 5 yrs experience in the United States working with small
    > companies and with Fortune 500 companies. I would like to migrate,
    > and I am wondering what the job market is like. I have experience
    > with Weblogic and Websphere, and most of my experience has been
    > short-term contracts(2-6months) and in one case the company ( a
    > dotcom) went under, any advice?
 
Old Oct 21st 2003, 11:33 am
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Default Re: Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

that was hilarious


Originally posted by Abw
import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;
public class drivingTaxis extends hardknockLives{
public static void main(String args[]){
System.out.println("Do I need to say more???");
}
}


[email protected] (MapleLeafFan) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > I have over 5 yrs experience in the United States working with small
    > companies and with Fortune 500 companies. I would like to migrate,
    > and I am wondering what the job market is like. I have experience
    > with Weblogic and Websphere, and most of my experience has been
    > short-term contracts(2-6months) and in one case the company ( a
    > dotcom) went under, any advice?
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Old Oct 21st 2003, 4:25 pm
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Default Re: Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

Yeah! I understand what he wants to imply.

Originally posted by RSK
that was hilarious
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Old Oct 22nd 2003, 12:56 am
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According to SUN's Java Coding Standard/Convention, the first letter of a Class or Interface should
be in uppercase. So your code snippet should be:
public class DrivingTaxis extends HardknockLives

A couple of months Java programming course or just a Java certificate does not help any more. Only
highly competitive(both technically and non-technically) people will survive these days.

( I am not a Java programmer by the way )

James


ABW wrote:

    > import java.io.*;
    > import java.util.*;
    > public class drivingTaxis extends hardknockLives{
    > public static void main(String args[]){
    > System.out.println("Do I need to say more???");
    > }
    > }
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (MapleLeafFan) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    >
    >>I have over 5 yrs experience in the United States working with small
    >>companies and with Fortune 500 companies. I would like to migrate,
    >>and I am wondering what the job market is like. I have experience
    >>with Weblogic and Websphere, and most of my experience has been
    >>short-term contracts(2-6months) and in one case the company ( a
    >>dotcom) went under, any advice?
 
Old Oct 22nd 2003, 10:09 am
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Abw
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Default Re: Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

James,
You are absolutely correct on the Java Coding convention. *Thank You*
I am glad someone actually bothers to look at the code convention.
It's been awhile since I looked at the source code convention.
Thanks to JBuilder and Visual Cafe IDE drag and drop features...

I have my SCJP, SCWCD, and, SCEA on J2EE as well as extensive three
years real world experience developing EJB and J2EE components.
Certifications are worth nothing these days.
I don't claim to be a Java savvy although I always joke that I was
born in Java therefore I know Java like the back of my hands...
BTW, Weblogic and JBoss are most widely used these days.
As far as the Java job situation, employers look for someone with at
least 3 years extensive/continuing experience in ALL [no exception]
J2EE and J2ME components in the states.
Last time I had an interview with Bombardier in Montreal for a J2EE
programmer job, they told me they had three stacks of well-qualified
resumes.
Do the math!!!
IMHO, you also need to have skills in ERP software (SAP, ORacle,
PeopleSoft, etc) to compete with the crowd.

James <nospam_james@nospam_wonderland.nospam_com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > According to SUN's Java Coding Standard/Convention, the first letter of a Class or Interface should
    > be in uppercase. So your code snippet should be:
    > public class DrivingTaxis extends HardknockLives
    >
    > A couple of months Java programming course or just a Java certificate does not help any more. Only
    > highly competitive(both technically and non-technically) people will survive these days.
    >
    > ( I am not a Java programmer by the way )
    >
    > James
 
Old Oct 23rd 2003, 12:19 am
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Mapleleaffan
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Ok this seems to be more helpful than the other posts. I have worked
extensively(and continously) in the J2EE enviroment, for big and large
organizations here in the States. I was looking to Canada, because I
find that I am reaching a plateau. I am getting more Lead, Architect
and Project Mgmt positions. As an African-American, I find that
during the phone screen I get rave reviews, and am considered a strong
contender, and then when I go in for a personal interview, things
change, they run out of funds, they can't get back in time, somebody
else is holding up the hiring process, etc.



I attribute this to the fact that the positions that I am currently
looking at are not evaluated by people who are forced to be objective,
the selection process relies more heavily on subjective criteria.
Whenever I get the chance to interview with really good tech shops I
seem to really do well, but alas, most of the shops are either superb
technically, but horrible when it comes to actually getting business.


I tried to just apply for a developer position, and I get either
really negative remarks (actually witnessed someone sabotage my PC)
and attitudes, or at times I am told I overqualified. Also, I notice
here that at the junior developer level, quite a number of body shops
are shipping in people on "company transfers", paying them next to
nothing (Indian salary + plus room and board), and hence the rates are
heading south.

I have had relatives and friends, who when they went to Canada from
the U.S. were shocked at the relative lack of annoying behaviors we
have come to expect down here, being followed in the store,
stopped/followed by police in nice suburbs, etc.

I was considering moving to Canada for that reason. I am willing to
get an MBA, retool, or even get a masters in another field if need be.
I know I will make less money, but the price of being able to afford
a BMW seems to be a bit to high.


[email protected] (ABW) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > James,
    > You are absolutely correct on the Java Coding convention. *Thank You*
    > I am glad someone actually bothers to look at the code convention.
    > It's been awhile since I looked at the source code convention.
    > Thanks to JBuilder and Visual Cafe IDE drag and drop features...
    >
    > I have my SCJP, SCWCD, and, SCEA on J2EE as well as extensive three
    > years real world experience developing EJB and J2EE components.
    > Certifications are worth nothing these days.
    > I don't claim to be a Java savvy although I always joke that I was
    > born in Java therefore I know Java like the back of my hands...
    > BTW, Weblogic and JBoss are most widely used these days.
    > As far as the Java job situation, employers look for someone with at
    > least 3 years extensive/continuing experience in ALL [no exception]
    > J2EE and J2ME components in the states.
    > Last time I had an interview with Bombardier in Montreal for a J2EE
    > programmer job, they told me they had three stacks of well-qualified
    > resumes.
    > Do the math!!!
    > IMHO, you also need to have skills in ERP software (SAP, ORacle,
    > PeopleSoft, etc) to compete with the crowd.
    >
    > James <nospam_james@nospam_wonderland.nospam_com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > According to SUN's Java Coding Standard/Convention, the first letter of a Class or Interface should
    > > be in uppercase. So your code snippet should be:
    > > public class DrivingTaxis extends HardknockLives
    > >
    > > A couple of months Java programming course or just a Java certificate does not help any more. Only
    > > highly competitive(both technically and non-technically) people will survive these days.
    > >
    > > ( I am not a Java programmer by the way )
    > >
    > > James
 
Old Oct 23rd 2003, 2:18 am
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James
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Default Re: Java Developer 5 yrs exp Migration chances

ABW,

I am sorry to hear that people with these qualifications are still struggling. Employers are just
crazy these days. I hope your are not or end up driving taxis! Have you ever thought of trying
some new practices other than a programmer? There are other areas worth to explore in the IT world.
I wish you and all other qualified "real" IT people well.

James

ABW wrote:

    > James,
    > You are absolutely correct on the Java Coding convention. *Thank You*
    > I am glad someone actually bothers to look at the code convention.
    > It's been awhile since I looked at the source code convention.
    > Thanks to JBuilder and Visual Cafe IDE drag and drop features...
    >
    > I have my SCJP, SCWCD, and, SCEA on J2EE as well as extensive three
    > years real world experience developing EJB and J2EE components.
    > Certifications are worth nothing these days.
    > I don't claim to be a Java savvy although I always joke that I was
    > born in Java therefore I know Java like the back of my hands...
    > BTW, Weblogic and JBoss are most widely used these days.
    > As far as the Java job situation, employers look for someone with at
    > least 3 years extensive/continuing experience in ALL [no exception]
    > J2EE and J2ME components in the states.
    > Last time I had an interview with Bombardier in Montreal for a J2EE
    > programmer job, they told me they had three stacks of well-qualified
    > resumes.
    > Do the math!!!
    > IMHO, you also need to have skills in ERP software (SAP, ORacle,
    > PeopleSoft, etc) to compete with the crowd.
 

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