Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
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Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
Hi all,
i'm planning on moving to Canada within the net year when i complete my masters in project management. The issue i'm having is that i have a dependant adult with me that is my mother. she doesn't have any family to care for her or anyone in general to care for her in the UK. My question is does anyone know of any successful cases where a family member has been granted a visa on compassionate grounds. she suffered a brain bleed on the 20th of Jan and needs to live with me for care. How will this effect me and my planned move to Canada
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i'm planning on moving to Canada within the net year when i complete my masters in project management. The issue i'm having is that i have a dependant adult with me that is my mother. she doesn't have any family to care for her or anyone in general to care for her in the UK. My question is does anyone know of any successful cases where a family member has been granted a visa on compassionate grounds. she suffered a brain bleed on the 20th of Jan and needs to live with me for care. How will this effect me and my planned move to Canada
kind regards
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Re: Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
Hi all,
i'm planning on moving to Canada within the net year when i complete my masters in project management. The issue i'm having is that i have a dependant adult with me that is my mother. she doesn't have any family to care for her or anyone in general to care for her in the UK. My question is does anyone know of any successful cases where a family member has been granted a visa on compassionate grounds. she suffered a brain bleed on the 20th of Jan and needs to live with me for care. How will this effect me and my planned move to Canada
kind regards
i'm planning on moving to Canada within the net year when i complete my masters in project management. The issue i'm having is that i have a dependant adult with me that is my mother. she doesn't have any family to care for her or anyone in general to care for her in the UK. My question is does anyone know of any successful cases where a family member has been granted a visa on compassionate grounds. she suffered a brain bleed on the 20th of Jan and needs to live with me for care. How will this effect me and my planned move to Canada
kind regards
If she came as a visitor with you, how would you pay for her medical care? Insurance, if you could get it would be very expensive. Intensive medical care here can cost hundreds of thousands.
Maybe make plans to stay in the UK.
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I agree, this isn't a case for H&C IMO, there's no need for you to move to Canada and it's your choice to do so, so you can do so without your mother or stay in the UK if you do need to care for her.
Might be worth a consultation with a couple of lawyer's, but personally I don't see how that would qualify for H&C.
Might be worth a consultation with a couple of lawyer's, but personally I don't see how that would qualify for H&C.
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Re: Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
I get it, just wanted to make sure. In an ideal world she would be allowed in with me then i can just cover the cost of medical. You.re right there's nothing stopping me going but its not wrong of me to want to move to Canada to start a new life. This as always been the plan straight after my studies and to sponsor my mum but then unfortunately in January this year she had the brain bleed and its obviously thrown a spanner in the works for my plans.
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H & C for the most part is where someone is at personal risk in their home country and has to leave, or cannot go back. Lots of people end up with sick relatives and allowing them all into Canada would be an excessive burden. I doubt H & C would be successful, especially as you are not even in Canada. There is nothing stopping you from staying in the UK to look after your mother.
If she came as a visitor with you, how would you pay for her medical care? Insurance, if you could get it would be very expensive. Intensive medical care here can cost hundreds of thousands.
Maybe make plans to stay in the UK.
If she came as a visitor with you, how would you pay for her medical care? Insurance, if you could get it would be very expensive. Intensive medical care here can cost hundreds of thousands.
Maybe make plans to stay in the UK.
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I get it, just wanted to make sure. In an ideal world she would be allowed in with me then i can just cover the cost of medical. You.re right there's nothing stopping me going but its not wrong of me to want to move to Canada to start a new life. This as always been the plan straight after my studies and to sponsor my mum but then unfortunately in January this year she had the brain bleed and its obviously thrown a spanner in the works for my plans.
If your mum was living in Canada she would no longer be eligible for NHS treatment in the UK.
Even if you became a permanent resident of Canada...your mum couldn’t come over and live with you right away...you would have to sponsor her for perm. residency. Thousands of names go into a ‘lottery’ at the beginning of each year...she may be lucky...she may not...if so you would have to apply again each year. If she was lucky she would then have to pass a medical...that could well be the biggest problem.
Whilst waiting she could come over using the Super Visa...that would probably take about 6 months. She would be a temp. resident and could stay for 2 years...renewable in 2 year chunks for 10 years. Problem is she would not be entitled to healthcare...she would have to show proof of health insurance by a Canadian insurance company. From what you have said that could be very expensive and would only cover emergency care. It would not cover things such as cancer treatment, flu shots, routine tests, rehab care etc.
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Re: Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
I get it, just wanted to make sure. In an ideal world she would be allowed in with me then i can just cover the cost of medical. You.re right there's nothing stopping me going but its not wrong of me to want to move to Canada to start a new life. This as always been the plan straight after my studies and to sponsor my mum but then unfortunately in January this year she had the brain bleed and its obviously thrown a spanner in the works for my plans.
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Sadly you are wrong when you said ‘I can just cover the cost of medical’. Even if you were a multi millionaire...the medical bills could bankrupt you. For instance 5 years ago I was taken to the ER at a Toronto hospital for diverticulitis. Upon arrival I was given morphine...x-rays were taken and I was moved into a 2 bed room for 5 days. No other treatment or tests were given. My husband had to pay $30,000+ before I was discharged. Imagine how much several days in ICU, surgery, cancer treatment etc would cost.
If your mum was living in Canada she would no longer be eligible for NHS treatment in the UK.
Even if you became a permanent resident of Canada...your mum couldn’t come over and live with you right away...you would have to sponsor her for perm. residency. Thousands of names go into a ‘lottery’ at the beginning of each year...she may be lucky...she may not...if so you would have to apply again each year. If she was lucky she would then have to pass a medical...that could well be the biggest problem.
Whilst waiting she could come over using the Super Visa...that would probably take about 6 months. She would be a temp. resident and could stay for 2 years...renewable in 2 year chunks for 10 years. Problem is she would not be entitled to healthcare...she would have to show proof of health insurance by a Canadian insurance company. From what you have said that could be very expensive and would only cover emergency care. It would not cover things such as cancer treatment, flu shots, routine tests, rehab care etc.
If your mum was living in Canada she would no longer be eligible for NHS treatment in the UK.
Even if you became a permanent resident of Canada...your mum couldn’t come over and live with you right away...you would have to sponsor her for perm. residency. Thousands of names go into a ‘lottery’ at the beginning of each year...she may be lucky...she may not...if so you would have to apply again each year. If she was lucky she would then have to pass a medical...that could well be the biggest problem.
Whilst waiting she could come over using the Super Visa...that would probably take about 6 months. She would be a temp. resident and could stay for 2 years...renewable in 2 year chunks for 10 years. Problem is she would not be entitled to healthcare...she would have to show proof of health insurance by a Canadian insurance company. From what you have said that could be very expensive and would only cover emergency care. It would not cover things such as cancer treatment, flu shots, routine tests, rehab care etc.
yeah thats what i meant when i said in an ideal world i meant me covering the health insurance cost and my mum being able to live in Canada knowing she's covered. I think if i cant find the right insurance or get her over there in the right way where she is covered then i'm going to have to give up on my dream. Obviously people have a lot bigger problems than the one i have but its just kind of sad as everything ive done the last 6 years has been to prepare for the move after my masters
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Re: Humanitarian and compassionate grounds
yeah thats what i meant when i said in an ideal world i meant me covering the health insurance cost and my mum being able to live in Canada knowing she's covered. I think if i cant find the right insurance or get her over there in the right way where she is covered then i'm going to have to give up on my dream. Obviously people have a lot bigger problems than the one i have but its just kind of sad as everything ive done the last 6 years has been to prepare for the move after my masters
Being a Mum myself, I'm quite sure your Mum wouldn't want you to give up your dream. You might have to defer it for a little while - or emigrate and take a while to get your ducks in a row to be able to sponsor your Mum. You mention that your Mum had a brain bleed, I hope she is doing ok at the moment... it's scary stuff, I know.. all you can do is take one day at a time and see where life leads you.
Do talk to your Mum about the time it may take before she could potentially come to stay with you in Canada (and look into the potential costs of health insurance) - I'm sure she will want you to go for your dream.. that's what Mums want for their kids, in the main.
Hang in there and don't give up - we never know what's around the corner!
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Being a Mum myself, I'm quite sure your Mum wouldn't want you to give up your dream. You might have to defer it for a little while - or emigrate and take a while to get your ducks in a row to be able to sponsor your Mum. You mention that your Mum had a brain bleed, I hope she is doing ok at the moment... it's scary stuff, I know.. all you can do is take one day at a time and see where life leads you.
Do talk to your Mum about the time it may take before she could potentially come to stay with you in Canada (and look into the potential costs of health insurance) - I'm sure she will want you to go for your dream.. that's what Mums want for their kids, in the main.
Hang in there and don't give up - we never know what's around the corner!
Do talk to your Mum about the time it may take before she could potentially come to stay with you in Canada (and look into the potential costs of health insurance) - I'm sure she will want you to go for your dream.. that's what Mums want for their kids, in the main.
Hang in there and don't give up - we never know what's around the corner!