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Old Dec 21st 2009, 4:39 am
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Hi everyone,

weve posted a couple of times regarding the thought of emigrating to Canada or Oz.

Im looking for some help please regarding Canada. After doing the initial assessment on CIC i believe we need to obtain a job offer to secure a move to Canada, ive also read all the wiki stuff on here. Our problem is we just dont know where to be looking. Hubby is in youth/community field. We have looked at Job bank, workpolis and jobs in canada and there never seems to be many and i find them all a little messy and not overly easily to navigate except job bank. They have left us feeling like its virtually impossible to obtain work in Canada. Can anyone please please help us and point in a direction or tell us what we should be doing? Ive looked at Willis Braz site but then reading threads on here appears better not to go with them? Im not afraid of putting in the hours research ive done so much for oz i could be an agent, but looking for Canadian jobs seems so much more tougher than when looking for oz? Also can someone explain the temp work visa and how it can lead to PR please?
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Old Dec 22nd 2009, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by McLeans
Im looking for some help please regarding Canada. After doing the initial assessment on CIC i believe we need to obtain a job offer to secure a move to Canada, ive also read all the wiki stuff on here. Our problem is we just dont know where to be looking. Hubby is in youth/community field. We have looked at Job bank, workpolis and jobs in canada and there never seems to be many and i find them all a little messy and not overly easily to navigate except job bank. They have left us feeling like its virtually impossible to obtain work in Canada. Can anyone please please help us and point in a direction or tell us what we should be doing?
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Catego...Hunting-Canada Hopefully that will help and explain how the job hunting process works in Canada.

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Ive looked at Willis Braz site but then reading threads on here appears better not to go with them?
I'm not sure what you think WB will be able to help you with? You'll need to find a job yourself anyway, and if you're planning on going via a TWP then that's only a 2 page form! So no point paying somebody else to do that for you.

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Also can someone explain the temp work visa and how it can lead to PR please?
Once you've got the TWP, you can either apply for PR as a Skilled Worker (cat 2, arranged employment), or wait until 2 years have passed and apply under Canadian Experience Class (if you don't qualify under SW program i.e. your job isn't NOC code A, O or B), or apply via the province's PNP program - they vary, so once you've found a job you'll need to look at the relevant PNP progs website for info.

Hope that helps, best of luck.
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Hello

As Christmasoompa suggests there is a lot of reading to do on here, but a couple of things I would mention as it was only from seeing comments on here that I learnt them. They may not be any help to you specifically, but nothing is lost by them being mentioned.

For PNP - I originally thought that was only for straight job offers but it seems there can be business nominated programmes too at least in BC - depends if you want to go that way.

Also, there is a community sponsored PNP route I think in NS which might be of interest.

I also found out that Alberta allows siblings to sponsor as well.

Before being on here I had no idea that provinces could be so different. I'm not saying any of the routes are particulary easy, but worth looking for the non obvious too.

All the best in your search.

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p.s. another job site recommended to me was eluta.com
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Hello,
yes, PNP are rather confusing with all their differences between provinces, but worth looking into.
Manitoba has also a community/regional stream (strategic stream), family stream, employer direct and a general stream (for either further out relatives or friends, who can help sponsor)..which is though the slowest stream of the MPNP. At the moment from my experience, either the employer direct stream (got to have a WP or workexperience in MB for at least 6 months though) or the strategic stream (condition: exploratory visit in MB and interview with MB Immigration) are the ones to recommend.

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addition: oops I forgot, MB has the business stream as well, and within that a special farm stream

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Hi....you may find it hard going finding a job whilst living in the UK, unless your skills are rare or in demand in Canada

Advice taken from a good recruitment friend of my parter was to remove any reference to the UK on your resume, because once they see you're based in the UK they will most likely skip on to the next resume.

Use the jobs sites you've mentioned, they are great sources of new vacancies....be mindful that not all vacancies are advertised!

Sign up to google reader www.google.com/reader and add the news feeds from the jobs searches subscribed to above

Sign up to LinkedIn and network like crazy

Sanitize your facebook/bebo/myspace etc. account - THEY WILL look you up

Check your google reader daily and apply, apply, apply

Be flexible, your one and only interview may not be in your number 1 destination

Use Canadian spelling and legal for your Canadian style 2 page resume

Make sure you know your onions if you do get the call, it may be your one and only chance to make a big impression...make them need you!

Patience & persistance....and don't get disheartend (I actually gave up on the job hunt a week before my interview after sending in a good 200+ applications, I was LUCKY!)

Make sure you know what your talking about when it comes to matters of immigration. Put yourself in their shoes, It's a huge risk for employers to employ a local, nevermind a foreign worker, and even worse a foreign worker without a Visa! Ease their mind by being knowlegable about the subject.

There are loads of really nice ppl on here willing to help you out.

I hope that helps

Bonne chance!!

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Advice taken from a good recruitment friend of my parter was to remove any reference to the UK on your resume, because once they see you're based in the UK they will most likely skip on to the next resume.
Being upfront is by and far the best way to go. If it in any way appears you were trying to be deceptive, you may end up wasting the airfare for an interview. If you are not in the country at some point they will find out. I would state your intentions in a cover letter.

Use Canadian spelling and legal for your Canadian style 2 page resume
Proper Candian spelling is pretty much the same as British English, although it has got very Americanized. Don't use legal, this is a large format, use Letter 8½" x 11" if you are going to e-mail resumes.

Make sure you know your onions if you do get the call, it may be your one and only chance to make a big impression...make them need you!
How will you get the call without them knowing you are in the UK? It is an international number.

Make sure you know what your talking about when it comes to matters of immigration. Put yourself in their shoes, It's a huge risk for employers to employ a local, nevermind a foreign worker, and even worse a foreign worker without a Visa! Ease their mind by being knowlegable about the subject.
Many employers are looking for candidates to start right away and come in for an interview within the week. This is where them knowing you are overseas from the get go is to both yours and their advantage. When I advertise for staff I am looking to hire within a couple of weeks or months unless it is a highly specialised job I cannot fill within Canada. Familiarity with the process certainly won't hurt, but I doubt it would get you hired unless they cannot find a local candidate.

Unless you skill set is very specialised, getting hired from out of country without a permit is going to be extremely hard.
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Unless you skill set is very specialised, getting hired from out of country without a permit is going to be extremely hard.
precisely!
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Also advise that you could pop on a plane for an inteview or if there is a HOT area where there is alot of jobs advertised pop over and meet these people face to face
Also make sure that your phone number is direct number, so don't put 0121 put 01144 121 etc

Make there life easier, be on the ball when answering there email, although it may take them a week to reply to you
Dont directly ask for a job, OH asked if he could meet when in the area and discuss maybe working for there company, friendly approch and all

Good Luck
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Also make sure that your phone number is direct number, so don't put 0121 put 01144 121
Make sure there is someone to answer it as well or you have voice mail or a fax number. E-mail is OK for some, but others don't bother with it, don't rely on E-mail as a primary method of comms. With the time difference between Canada and the UK (PST is Zulu -8 EST is Zulu -5)
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so it would seem trying to secure work within the youth and community sector will be virtually impossible from here? As its not a majorly rare and exceptional skilled job, so what do we do next in that case? we have no family no business entry, i have no idea what to do next it seems like we are hitting our head against a brick wall with canada?

Thanks for your help
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so it would seem trying to secure work within the youth and community sector will be virtually impossible from here? As its not a majorly rare and exceptional skilled job, so what do we do next in that case? we have no family no business entry, i have no idea what to do next it seems like we are hitting our head against a brick wall with canada?

Thanks for your help
Hi, as far as i know its not on the skills shortage list so you would probably find it difficult to get work in that area. I know where we live Y & C workers are a dime a dozen as i used to work with young offenders in the UK but my visa does not allow me to work with children or in health or government as I'm on my husbands work visa. There are very few Y & C jobs in Alberta as far as I've witnessed since being here. Does your husband have a trade or a degree in any line of work (specialized skills etc)? Frustrating I know but employment has slowed down over here this year and there are not many jobs around at the moment. Sorry to paint a bleak picture but it may be worth applying for a seasonal job to get some Canadian experience such as the summer camps? just a suggestion. tl
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Thankyou, atleast your being truthful, it allows to see how it really is over there and it doesnt sound too great for us,
Never mind i,ll see what new year brings
thanks again
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Originally Posted by McLeans
Thankyou, atleast your being truthful, it allows to see how it really is over there and it doesnt sound too great for us,
Never mind i,ll see what new year brings
thanks again
good luck and just bear in mind that I can only advise on what its like in Alberta, i'm not sure about the other provinces. If you really want to come I would do the seasonal thing and at least you're here and can look and check things out for yourself. Its far easier doing it once you're in Canada then in the UK. We got lucky my husbands bosses are from the same area of the UK as us so it was a done deal really. Brits tend to stick together here till they've been here a few years! Good luck and don't give up
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Originally Posted by McLeans
Thankyou, atleast your being truthful, it allows to see how it really is over there and it doesnt sound too great for us,
Never mind i,ll see what new year brings
thanks again
i am not sure if all areas are the same.....but i know area 51 school district where we are advertise on there own school site, maybe an idea to look on the district sites for jobs, i will email you a link to the jobs in this area
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