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HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

Old Sep 3rd 2003, 12:05 pm
  #1  
Al
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Default HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

I am sponsoring my wife (from Japan) for a PR visa applying from abroad, and
she had recently sent me the Japan Police criminal record check form for her
country to submit for our application. The police document were sealed in an
official envelope clearly stating (IN ENGLISH) that it is "TO BE OPENED BY
THE ADDRESSE ONLY", and the addressee is the "THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED,
CANADA IMMIGRATION (Content: Police certificate)", and *****ING Canada
customs opens the officially sealed envelope... doesn't that make it null &
void for our application? Would I still be able to submit this police
document "opened" and "unsealed" to CIC for the application, or does it need
to be sealed?

I have attempted to contact customs Canada the last couple of days to file
a complaint, but as usual, I get a voice message answering system and have
not heard from them.... why am I not surprised.

Please confirm with me if it matters if the documents are sealed or not?

THanks in advance?
 
Old Sep 3rd 2003, 3:15 pm
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Pmm
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Default Re: HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

Hi Al

"AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I am sponsoring my wife (from Japan) for a PR visa applying from abroad,
and
    > she had recently sent me the Japan Police criminal record check form for
her
    > country to submit for our application. The police document were sealed in
an
    > official envelope clearly stating (IN ENGLISH) that it is "TO BE OPENED BY
    > THE ADDRESSE ONLY", and the addressee is the "THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED,
    > CANADA IMMIGRATION (Content: Police certificate)", and *****ING Canada
    > customs opens the officially sealed envelope... doesn't that make it null
&
    > void for our application? Would I still be able to submit this police
    > document "opened" and "unsealed" to CIC for the application, or does it
need
    > to be sealed?
    > I have attempted to contact customs Canada the last couple of days to
file
    > a complaint, but as usual, I get a voice message answering system and have
    > not heard from them.... why am I not surprised.
    > Please confirm with me if it matters if the documents are sealed or not?
    > THanks in advance?

Send it how you got it with a note stating opened by Customs. There should
have been a sticker on the envelope stating that it was opened by Customs.

PMM
 
Old Sep 3rd 2003, 7:46 pm
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Al
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Default Re: HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

The "police record check envelope" that was opened did not have the "opened
by customs" sticker on it, but the larger envelope that it was packed in
was.

SHould I be sending both together in that case, or would it not be valid
since the actual police check envelope has no evidence of the sticker at
all.

Sometimes, one wonders what kind of inept people work in our governement
agencies.


"PMM" <pmurray-no [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Al
    > "AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I am sponsoring my wife (from Japan) for a PR visa applying from abroad,
    > and
    > > she had recently sent me the Japan Police criminal record check form for
    > her
    > > country to submit for our application. The police document were sealed
in
    > an
    > > official envelope clearly stating (IN ENGLISH) that it is "TO BE OPENED
BY
    > > THE ADDRESSE ONLY", and the addressee is the "THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED,
    > > CANADA IMMIGRATION (Content: Police certificate)", and *****ING Canada
    > > customs opens the officially sealed envelope... doesn't that make it
null
    > &
    > > void for our application? Would I still be able to submit this police
    > > document "opened" and "unsealed" to CIC for the application, or does it
    > need
    > > to be sealed?
    > >
    > > I have attempted to contact customs Canada the last couple of days to
    > file
    > > a complaint, but as usual, I get a voice message answering system and
have
    > > not heard from them.... why am I not surprised.
    > >
    > > Please confirm with me if it matters if the documents are sealed or not?
    > >
    > > THanks in advance?
    > Send it how you got it with a note stating opened by Customs. There
should
    > have been a sticker on the envelope stating that it was opened by Customs.
    > PMM
 
Old Sep 4th 2003, 12:40 am
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James Metcalfe
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Default Re: HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

Just send the certificate in without any comment. We have had same problem
in the past and nothing has happaened. You should follow the old axiom,
Never explain , never complain. THis is not a major issue which should keep
you awake at night.


Jim metcalfe







"AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > The "police record check envelope" that was opened did not have the
"opened
    > by customs" sticker on it, but the larger envelope that it was packed in
    > was.
    > SHould I be sending both together in that case, or would it not be valid
    > since the actual police check envelope has no evidence of the sticker at
    > all.
    > Sometimes, one wonders what kind of inept people work in our governement
    > agencies.
    > "PMM" <pmurray-no [email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi Al
    > >
    > > "AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I am sponsoring my wife (from Japan) for a PR visa applying from
abroad,
    > > and
    > > > she had recently sent me the Japan Police criminal record check form
for
    > > her
    > > > country to submit for our application. The police document were sealed
    > in
    > > an
    > > > official envelope clearly stating (IN ENGLISH) that it is "TO BE
OPENED
    > BY
    > > > THE ADDRESSE ONLY", and the addressee is the "THE AUTHORITIES
CONCERNED,
    > > > CANADA IMMIGRATION (Content: Police certificate)", and *****ING Canada
    > > > customs opens the officially sealed envelope... doesn't that make it
    > null
    > > &
    > > > void for our application? Would I still be able to submit this police
    > > > document "opened" and "unsealed" to CIC for the application, or does
it
    > > need
    > > > to be sealed?
    > > >
    > > > I have attempted to contact customs Canada the last couple of days to
    > > file
    > > > a complaint, but as usual, I get a voice message answering system and
    > have
    > > > not heard from them.... why am I not surprised.
    > > >
    > > > Please confirm with me if it matters if the documents are sealed or
not?
    > > >
    > > > THanks in advance?
    > >
    > > Send it how you got it with a note stating opened by Customs. There
    > should
    > > have been a sticker on the envelope stating that it was opened by
Customs.
    > >
    > > PMM
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 4th 2003, 3:45 am
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Mr. Pomegranate
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Default Re: HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

"AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .ca>...
    > The "police record check envelope" that was opened did not have the "opened
    > by customs" sticker on it, but the larger envelope that it was packed in
    > was.
    >
    > SHould I be sending both together in that case, or would it not be valid
    > since the actual police check envelope has no evidence of the sticker at
    > all.
    >
    > Sometimes, one wonders what kind of inept people work in our governement
    > agencies.

Customs have the right to open pretty much anything they want to as it
comes into the country. It's not their fault. They were just doing
their job. How do they know it's not a shipment of anthrax spores or
something, pretending to have been sent by the Japanese police?

If I were you I would simply send in everything you received to CIC,
outer envelope, inner envelope, etc., with a letter explaining what
happened. If they are not happy with it they will contact you.

Some of the police statements of no criminal record that I submitted
had absolutely no seal on them whatsoever. I couldn't believe they
would be accepted, but they were. Of course, it was normal for them
not to have seals since that is the way they were issued, but don't
you go assuming there is a problem until CIC tells you there is.

And, please, lay off the customs service.
 
Old Sep 7th 2003, 3:06 pm
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Richard
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Default Re: HELP PLEASE: Does foreign police documents have to be sealed for PR application?

On 4 Sep 2003 08:45:16 -0700, [email protected] (Mr.
Pomegranate) wrote:

    >happened. If they are not happy with it they will contact you.
    >Some of the police statements of no criminal record that I submitted
    >had absolutely no seal on them whatsoever. I couldn't believe they
    >would be accepted, but they were. Of course, it was normal for them
    >not to have seals since that is the way they were issued, but don't
    >you go assuming there is a problem until CIC tells you there is.
    >And, please, lay off the customs service.

My favourite police certificate was one from a police force in
Scotland which basically stated on one sheet
"You police record is attached, If you have no record then nothing is
attached"

Now who would send on the attachment if they had one ?
 

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