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Old Sep 25th 2016, 2:19 pm
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This is my first time posting on this site.

Me and my husband and two children are trying to immigrate to Canada and we keep hitting goal posts.

We have filled out the express entry form on the cic website and we fulfil all the requirements but it comes back saying not eligible.

We are going on my husbands credentials he is a fully qualified electrician with over 6 years experience. We both have completed the IELTS his scores were as follows. Speaking 8.5 reading 8 listening 8 and writing 6.

We will be selling our house so we have adequate funds to bring, so we are not sure why we are not being entered into the enrty pool.

Any help or advise would me much appreciated.
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Old Sep 26th 2016, 1:47 pm
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Have you worked out how many points you score using the CRS tool? That would be really useful to post.

Also, have you looked into what your husband will have to do to work as an electrician in Canada? IINM, he'll have to pass the Red Seal exam here before he can work.
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What category are you intending to apply under?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...ho-express.asp

I am assuming you cant even get the code you need to start an express entry profile?

http://onlineservices-servicesenlign...5A2A8F88321152

You say you have adequate funds but have you checked the minimum amount required for 4 people and entered at least this minimum amount on the tool above. If it is lower than the value CIC require it will come back not eligible.

Also note that it isn't just about eligibility you need to be scoring at least 67 points in the selection factors:
Six selection factors

If you meet all the conditions set out in the minimum requirements, we will assess your application based on the selection factors in the federal skilled worker points grid.Footnote 1

The selection factors are:
•your skills in English and/or French (Canada’s two official languages),
•your education,
•your work experience,
•your age,
•whether you have a valid job offer, and
•your adaptability (how well you are likely to settle here).

To see how many points you might get, read about the selection factors.

You may be able to get this over by you sitting an English test (in addition to your husband) or him retaking an improving the writing score. But do run a few sceneries in the points and see what works best for you.

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Yes it was 388. Which I think maybe to low? I know if he goes to Canada and sits the red seal exam he gets 50 more points. We may use a immigration company to see if they have any more tips. We have friends in Canada who said there province are crying out for eletricians so we thought based on the skill he has we would get accepted.
But we were wrong! We have two children and a house in England so we can't even come on a work visa and then try and apply as we need stability for our children.
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The lowest the ITA score has dipped to I think is somewhere around 460. If he can get the Red Seal and earn another 50 points, which puts you at 438, it's worth at least putting your application in and hoping for the best.

Can he do the IELTS again to get the writing score up to get a few more points that way? Are there any other areas where he could bolster points?

If the area is crying out for electricians, then if he can get one of the employers to provide an LMIA then that gets you 600 extra points and straight in the door. But he'd have to have a proper LMIA first.
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Yes it was 388. Which I think maybe to low? I know if he goes to Canada and sits the red seal exam he gets 50 more points. We may use a immigration company to see if they have any more tips. We have friends in Canada who said there province are crying out for eletricians so we thought based on the skill he has we would get accepted.
But we were wrong! We have two children and a house in England so we can't even come on a work visa and then try and apply as we need stability for our children.
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at 388 you are unlikely to get picked even if you can get into the pools. The lowest it has ever gone is 450 and the scores at the moment have been in the 470-490s.

I don't think an immigration consultant will be able to help you get any more points, all they will do is work scenarios in the points system i.e. do this and you could get this many points etc. You can do this yourself easily. You may want to look at either trying to find a job in Canada 9supported by an LMIA) or provincial nomination.
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Thanks for all the above replys!
I will get him to contact a province to sit the Red Seal exam and then we will try the appplication again.
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Also note that it isn't just about eligibility you need to be scoring at least 67 points in the selection factors:
Six selection factors

If you meet all the conditions set out in the minimum requirements, we will assess your application based on the selection factors in the federal skilled worker points grid.Footnote 1

The selection factors are:
•your skills in English and/or French (Canada’s two official languages),
•your education,
•your work experience,
•your age,
•whether you have a valid job offer, and
•your adaptability (how well you are likely to settle here).

To see how many points you might get, read about the selection factors.

You may be able to get this over by you sitting an English test (in addition to your husband) or him retaking an improving the writing score. But do run a few sceneries in the points and see what works best for you.
That's for FSW though, as an electrician he'd be applying under FST so the 67 points minimum isn't relevant.

However, what is mandatory for FST (and I suspect, why the OP is being told he's not eligible to apply under EE) is either a job offer, or provincial certification. He needs one of those to be eligible under FST and if the OP is saying no to both of those when asked during the eligibility test, that'll probably be why it's saying he's not eligible to apply under EE.

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Thanks for the above!
Does that mean he needs his electrical certificates accessed or does he needs to sit the red seal exam?
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Need to be licensed which means passing the red seal exam.
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Need to be licensed which means passing the red seal exam.
Not necessarily, he needs Certification. 'Red Seal' is an inter-Provincial add-on. He needs to ascertain what he needs for equivalency based on hours (over 900 needed) - and what else is needed also depends on which Province he applies to.

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Thanks for the above again.
He has over six years experience as a fully qualified electrician and ten years actually in the trade.
He has passed an apprenticeship course and has also passed an advance testing cause which is the 2391 in the uk.
He has a solar panel qualification to so in the uk he is quite advanced.
It's just whether these skills are enough to prove certification in British Columbia.
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https://www.welcomebc.ca/Work-or-Stu...ts/Electrician

Electrician, Construction | ITA BC
An electrician is not required to carry a trade certificate or to have a licence to work in this job in B.C. However, some experience and education is expected. Many employers prefer workers with a certificate. Some employers will train and sponsor apprentices on the job. You can become certified as a construction electrician, or as an industrial electrician through ITA.
If you are already experienced as a construction or industrial electrician, you may challenge the ITA Certificate of Qualification. To challenge the Certificate for a construction electrician, you must provide proof of 9,000 documented hours of directly related experience working as a construction electrician and this is usually provided in a signed declaration from either a current or previous employer. To challenge the Certificate for an industrial electrician, you must provide proof of 9,000 documented hours of directly related experience working as an industrial electrician.

There is a $120 fee plus tax to apply to ITA to challenge the certification. For more information on the challenge application for a construction electrician, visit the Industry Training Authority’s website. For more information on the challenge application for an industrial electrician, visit ITA's website.

​Individuals who challenge the certification and have their required work experience approved will need to write the Interprovincial Red Seal Exam, and achieve at least 70% on the exam to obtain the ITA Certificate of Qualification. Red Seal endorsement is recognized by employers as a standard of excellence and indicates that the certificate holder has met the Interprovincial knowledge, skills and work experience standards established by this industry. For more information on the Red Seal Examination, visit the Interprovincial Standards Red Seal Program.

Certification with ITA will take from 3 to 6 months and cost approximately $120.

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