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Help Experts, Advice Needed Please

Old Oct 18th 2002, 11:09 pm
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Can anyone shed some light on a problem for me to do with points awarded for French as a second language.

I have a school-leaving certificate in French with a high grading and I have used French on and of over the last few years at work (my employer will verify this). I need to know will this be accepted if I want to claim two points for speaking / understanding / reading & writing French at a basic level (two points maximum in this category). On the official documentation it says proof should be in the form of an approved language test OR proof of a certificate in the claimed language plus proof of work experience. I am not keen on taking an approved test unless I really have to as my skills may not be as sharp as they should be. I would prefer to show the certificate and proof of work experience and I know this option is listed, however I want to know if there is a good chance that my proof of French will be accepted or do I need an approved test even when claiming a basic level of knowledge.

I know its only two but I need every one I can get so does anyone have any advice – should I go for it or will the assessors want more.

Any comments or advice will be much appreciated.
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Old Oct 19th 2002, 3:17 am
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The visa offier will much prefer the official test of French mentioned in
their Guide.
Jim Humphries, former visa officer
"MikeTheMac" wrote in message
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    > Can anyone shed some light on a problem for me to do with points awarded
    > for French as a second language.
    > I have a school-leaving certificate in French with a high grading and I
    > have used French on and of over the last few years at work (my employer
    > will verify this). I need to know will this be accepted if I want to
    > claim two points for speaking / understanding / reading & writing French
    > at a basic level (two points maximum in this category). On the official
    > documentation it says proof should be in the form of an approved
    > language test OR proof of a certificate in the claimed language plus
    > proof of work experience. I am not keen on taking an approved test
    > unless I really have to as my skills may not be as sharp as they should
    > be. I would prefer to show the certificate and proof of work
    > experience and I know this option is listed, however I want to know if
    > there is a good chance that my proof of French will be accepted or do I
    > need an approved test even when claiming a basic level of knowledge.
    > I know its only two but I need every one I can get so does anyone have
    > any advice - should I go for it or will the assessors want more.
    > Any comments or advice will be much appreciated.
    > --
    > MikeTheMac
 
Old Oct 19th 2002, 3:46 am
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I believe it says that if you are submitting a certificate as evidence it
should be no more than a year old.

"MikeTheMac" wrote in message
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    > Can anyone shed some light on a problem for me to do with points awarded
    > for French as a second language.
    > I have a school-leaving certificate in French with a high grading and I
    > have used French on and of over the last few years at work (my employer
    > will verify this). I need to know will this be accepted if I want to
    > claim two points for speaking / understanding / reading & writing French
    > at a basic level (two points maximum in this category). On the official
    > documentation it says proof should be in the form of an approved
    > language test OR proof of a certificate in the claimed language plus
    > proof of work experience. I am not keen on taking an approved test
    > unless I really have to as my skills may not be as sharp as they should
    > be. I would prefer to show the certificate and proof of work
    > experience and I know this option is listed, however I want to know if
    > there is a good chance that my proof of French will be accepted or do I
    > need an approved test even when claiming a basic level of knowledge.
    > I know its only two but I need every one I can get so does anyone have
    > any advice - should I go for it or will the assessors want more.
    > Any comments or advice will be much appreciated.
    > --
    > MikeTheMac
 
Old Oct 19th 2002, 6:14 am
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Originally posted by The Wizzard:
I believe it says that if you are submitting a certificate as evidence it
should be no more than a year old.

"MikeTheMac" wrote in message
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    > Can anyone shed some light on a problem for me to do with points awarded
    > for French as a second language.
    > I have a school-leaving certificate in French with a high grading and I
    > have used French on and of over the last few years at work (my employer
    > will verify this). I need to know will this be accepted if I want to
    > claim two points for speaking / understanding / reading & writing French
    > at a basic level (two points maximum in this category). On the official
    > documentation it says proof should be in the form of an approved
    > language test OR proof of a certificate in the claimed language plus
    > proof of work experience. I am not keen on taking an approved test
    > unless I really have to as my skills may not be as sharp as they should
    > be. I would prefer to show the certificate and proof of work
    > experience and I know this option is listed, however I want to know if
    > there is a good chance that my proof of French will be accepted or do I
    > need an approved test even when claiming a basic level of knowledge.
    > I know its only two but I need every one I can get so does anyone have
    > any advice - should I go for it or will the assessors want more.
    > Any comments or advice will be much appreciated.
    > --
    > MikeTheMac
Thanks for the advice guys -
I can understand an official test would be prefered for equal standards but with claiminmg only two points the OR option is my preference.

Regarding the one year old certificate - I took this to apply to the official test only as it isn't mentioned in the OR option.

I have a French certifcate and several years work exoerience using French and I hoped this would be sufficient as this is all that is required in the OR oprtion. But I guess I will now have to rethink things as there is no approved test centre in my country or residence.
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Old Oct 19th 2002, 8:14 pm
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Dear Messrs. Cohen, Humphries and Miller

Writing you to solicit your expert advise about the submission of the language test result in consonance with the new IRPA.

I applied for PR in Canada through the CIC London. My application package which I submitted Dec 30, 2001 got a lock-in date of Jan 30, 2002 per AOR received. Since the requirement for the language test result was not known yet at my submission date my application did not include any proof that will back up the level of proficiency I claimed. Upon knowing of this statutory requirement only did I submit a written evidence of my language abilities in English in lieu of the test result.

Although I have submitted other written evidence already I still registered to take the IELTS exam which I took recently.

Questions: Will it serve the purpose if I plan to submit the IELTS result to CIC London since I've already supplied them with my written evidence? If this exercise is possible, will it be considered to supersede the written evidence provided? Based on my above-mentioned timeline, you think my submission of the IELTS result can still beat the final assessment schedule of my case? Are you of the opinion that my case is already up for final assessment in light of the CHC advertised 15-20 months assessment period?

Any advise will be highly appreciated.
 
Old Oct 20th 2002, 5:02 am
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If you already passed IELTS then what are you waiting for? Submit results
pronto...

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    > Dear Messrs. Cohen, Humphries and Miller
    > Writing you to solicit your expert advise about the submission of the
    > language test result in consonance with the new IRPA.
    > I applied for PR in Canada through the CIC London. My application
    > package which I submitted Dec 30, 2001 got a lock-in date of Jan 30,
    > 2002 per AOR received. Since the requirement for the language test
    > result was not known yet at my submission date my application did not
    > include any proof that will back up the level of proficiency I claimed.
    > Upon knowing of this statutory requirement only did I submit a written
    > evidence of my language abilities in English in lieu of the test result.
    > Although I have submitted other written evidence already I still
    > registered to take the IELTS exam which I took recently.
    > Questions: Will it serve the purpose if I plan to submit the IELTS
    > result to CIC London since I've already supplied them with my written
    > evidence? If this exercise is possible, will it be considered to
    > supersede the written evidence provided? Based on my above-mentioned
    > timeline, you think my submission of the IELTS result can still beat the
    > final assessment schedule of my case? Are you of the opinion that my
    > case is already up for final assessment in light of the CHC advertised
    > 15-20 months assessment period?
    > Any advise will be highly appreciated.
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Old Oct 20th 2002, 6:27 pm
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Mr. Miller,

Thanks for the advise. Will submit the IELTS result as soon as it becomes available next week.

In addition, will CIC London now set aside my submitted written evidence in light of my submitted language test result? Did they give weight on the first submission when it was received and does another screening based on the new one? Please throw some light.
 
Old Oct 21st 2002, 3:06 am
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IELTS results will overwrite any other evidence you submitted.

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email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

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    > Mr. Miller,
    > Thanks for the advise. Will submit the IELTS result as soon as it
    > becomes available next week.
    > In addition, will CIC London now set aside my submitted written evidence
    > in light of my submitted language test result? Did they give weight on
    > the first submission when it was received and does another screening
    > based on the new one? Please throw some light.
    > --
 

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