Andrew Miller

Aleksey,

Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long as names are
spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the immigration
application kit clearly states that name in the application has to be as it is in the
passport or in the official document that will be used in obtaining passport. You
will not be using your US driver's license or any other US ID when obtaining Russian
passport, so you cannot argue that your US IDs should be accepted as a proof of how
your name will be spelled in Canadian landing papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.

Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain problems in the future -
for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must produce a valid passport
with original of your birth certificate and both documents have to show the same
name. Many other countries have similar requirements.

So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the landing papers then
the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports before landing and
hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English spelled names. Then you may
send landing papers with copies of new passports for a replacement and you should
postpone your landing until you have new landing documents issued. But as I
understand getting new passports through the Russian embassy in US may be quite
expensive, so changing name later in Canada will be much simpler and cheaper (about
Can$ 150.00).

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Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
[email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
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Aleksey Desyatkov

Andrew,

Thank you for information. One more question:

What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it contains my
name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used somehow?

Thank you.

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[usenetquote2]> > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said a word[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates, visas and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > work authorization use English spelling. There has to be recognition of two[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of Name" procedure. At least in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > the USA it works this way: you enter America with different names in you visa and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passport. After it you use VISA spelling for all your official documents,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > including ones you submit for new passport. Russian embassy accepts English[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
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Andrew Miller

How then is your last name spelled in the Surname section of IMM 1000 (very
first field)?

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Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
[email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
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[usenetquote2]> > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long as names[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > application kit clearly states that name in the application has to be as[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > in the passport or in the official document that will be used in obtaining[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or any other US[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your US IDs[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in Canadian landing papers,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain problems in[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must produce[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and both documents[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar requirements.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the landing[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports before landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English spelled names. Then[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > you may send landing papers with copies of new passports for a replacement and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > you should postpone your landing until you have new[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports through the[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later in Canada[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sending an email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said a word[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates, visas[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > and work authorization use English spelling. There has to be recognition of two[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of Name" procedure. At least[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > in the USA it works this way: you enter America with different names in you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > visa and passport. After it you use VISA spelling for all your official[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > documents, including ones you submit for new passport. Russian embassy accepts[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > English spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

Aleksey Desyatkov

It is spelled in English:

2. Surname: DESYATKOV
3. Given Name: ALEKSEY
4. Name Flag: ALEXEI DESSIATKOV

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[usenetquote2]> > Andrew,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Thank you for information. One more question:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it contains[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > my name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used somehow?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long as[/usenetquote2]
names
[usenetquote2]> > are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > immigration[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > application kit clearly states that name in the application has to be[/usenetquote2]
as
[usenetquote2]> > it is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > in the passport or in the official document that will be used in[/usenetquote2]
obtaining
[usenetquote2]> > > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or any other[/usenetquote2]
US
[usenetquote2]> > ID[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your US IDs[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > should be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in Canadian[/usenetquote2]
landing
[usenetquote2]> > > papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain problems[/usenetquote2]
in
[usenetquote2]> > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must[/usenetquote2]
produce
[usenetquote2]> > a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and both[/usenetquote2]
documents
[usenetquote2]> > have[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar requirements.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports[/usenetquote2]
before
[usenetquote2]> > > landing and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English[/usenetquote2]
spelled
[usenetquote2]> > > names. Then you may send landing papers with copies of new passports[/usenetquote2]
for a
[usenetquote2]> > > replacement and you should postpone your landing until you have new[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports through[/usenetquote2]
the
[usenetquote2]> > Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later in Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > will be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > sending an[/usenetquote2]
email)
[usenetquote2]> > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said a word[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates, visas[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > and work authorization use English spelling. There has to be recognition of[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > two spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of Name" procedure. At[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > least in the USA it works this way: you enter America with different names in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > you visa and passport. After it you use VISA spelling for all your official[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > documents, including ones you submit for new passport. Russian embassy[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > accepts English spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

Andrew Miller

Aleksey,

Now you've lost me. Looks like your name in the fields # 2 and # 3 is spelled the way
you want it, isn't it?

Due to the difference in spelling of your Russian names (which originally are in
Cyrillic) in English and in French both versions have been put in your landing
document with the English one as the one you use and the French version in the Name
Flag field to make sure that immigration officers at the Canadian port of entry will
not turn you back due to the difference between names in the passport and those in
the # 3 and # 3 fields of IMM 1000 form (landing paper).

So, if what you have in field # 2 and # 3 is what you want to use then you don't have
any problem and nothing is to be changed.

Please correct me if I misinterpreted your intentions.

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Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
[email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
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[usenetquote2]> > How then is your last name spelled in the Surname section of IMM 1000[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sending an email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > Andrew,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Thank you for information. One more question:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > contains my name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used somehow?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long as[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > immigration[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > application kit clearly states that name in the application has to be[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > it is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > in the passport or in the official document that will be used in[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or any other[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > ID[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your US IDs[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > should be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in Canadian[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > > papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain problems[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and both[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > have[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar requirements.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > landing and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > > names. Then you may send landing papers with copies of new passports[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > > replacement and you should postpone your landing until you have new[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports through[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later in Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > will be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > sending an[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > word about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > visas and work authorization use English spelling. There has to be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > recognition of two spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Name" procedure. At least in the USA it works this way: you enter America[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > with different names in you visa and passport. After it you use VISA[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > spelling for all your official documents, including ones you submit for new[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > passport. Russian embassy accepts English spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

Aleksey Desyatkov

Well, finally. My name always was the way I wonted it to be - English. It was so
until even English version was misspelled and I had to call CIC. And they said my
name has to be spelled exactly as in passport - something I don't want at all. Now I
have to send them corrections along with copies of passports. What I'm trying to find
is - what spelling should I correct them to? They have obviously used English, but
over the phone they asking for French (passport).

Andrew, if I understand you right, you are saying that I CAN use different from
passport spelling of name. I just have to make sure they didn't forget to put my
passport name in "Name Flag" field. Is it correct? If yes, would you please point me
to an official information?

Thank you.

Aleksey


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[usenetquote2]> > 2. Surname: DESYATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > 3. Given Name: ALEKSEY[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > 4. Name Flag: ALEXEI DESSIATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > How then is your last name spelled in the Surname section of IMM 1000[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > (very[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > first field)?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > sending an[/usenetquote2]
email)
[usenetquote2]> > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > Andrew,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Thank you for information. One more question:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > contains my name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used somehow?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > names[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > immigration[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > application kit clearly states that name in the application has to[/usenetquote2]
be
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[usenetquote2]> > > > it is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > in the passport or in the official document that will be used in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > obtaining[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or any[/usenetquote2]
other
[usenetquote2]> > US[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > ID[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your US[/usenetquote2]
IDs
[usenetquote2]> > > > should be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in Canadian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain[/usenetquote2]
problems
[usenetquote2]> > in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > produce[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and both[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > documents[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > have[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar[/usenetquote2]
requirements.
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the[/usenetquote2]
landing
[usenetquote2]> > > > papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > landing and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > spelled[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > names. Then you may send landing papers with copies of new[/usenetquote2]
passports
[usenetquote2]> > for a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > replacement and you should postpone your landing until you have[/usenetquote2]
new
[usenetquote2]> > > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports[/usenetquote2]
through
[usenetquote2]> > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later in[/usenetquote2]
Canada
[usenetquote2]> > > > will be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > before sending[/usenetquote2]
an
[usenetquote2]> > email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > word about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > visas and work authorization use English spelling. There has to be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > recognition of two spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Name" procedure. At least in the USA it works this way: you enter America[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > with different names in you visa and passport. After it you use VISA[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > spelling for all your official documents, including ones you submit for[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > new passport. Russian embassy accepts English spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

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He is able to request names on new russian passport issued in the USA spelled the way
he want them.

Regards.

Andrew Miller

Now you really lost me...

As I can see in your previous email your name is spelled in the fields # 2 and
# 3 exactly as it is in your email signature - so what is there misspelled?

Can you type me your name in Cyrillic exactly as it appears in your passport in the
Russian spelling? It may help solve the mystery...

--

../..

Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
[email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
sending an email)
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[usenetquote2]> > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Now you've lost me. Looks like your name in the fields # 2 and # 3 is[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > the way you want it, isn't it?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Due to the difference in spelling of your Russian names (which originally[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > in Cyrillic) in English and in French both versions have been put in your landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > document with the English one as the one you use and the French[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > in the Name Flag field to make sure that immigration officers at the[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > port of entry will not turn you back due to the difference between names[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > passport and those in the # 3 and # 3 fields of IMM 1000 form (landing[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > So, if what you have in field # 2 and # 3 is what you want to use then you don't[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > have any problem and nothing is to be changed.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Please correct me if I misinterpreted your intentions.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sending an email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > It is spelled in English:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > 2. Surname: DESYATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > 3. Given Name: ALEKSEY[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > 4. Name Flag: ALEXEI DESSIATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > How then is your last name spelled in the Surname section of IMM 1000[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > (very[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > first field)?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > sending an[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > Andrew,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Thank you for information. One more question:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > contains my name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used somehow?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as long[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > names[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > immigration[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > application kit clearly states that name in the application has to[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > as[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > it is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > in the passport or in the official document that will be used in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > obtaining[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or any[/usenetquote2]
    >
[usenetquote2]> > > US[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > ID[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your US[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > should be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in Canadian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you must[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > produce[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and both[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > documents[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > have[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian passports[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > landing and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with English[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > spelled[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > names. Then you may send landing papers with copies of new[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > for a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > replacement and you should postpone your landing until you have[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later in[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > will be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > before sending[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never said[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > a word about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards, certificates,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > visas and work authorization use English spelling. There has to be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > recognition of two spellings of one name without undergoing "Change of[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Name" procedure. At least in the USA it works this way: you enter[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > America with different names in you visa and passport. After it you use[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > VISA spelling for all your official documents, including ones you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > submit for new passport. Russian embassy accepts English spelling, why[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
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Aleksey Desyatkov

There is no mystery, trust me. I have wife and two daughters whose names were
misspelled. But you didn't answer my question. Can I use different from passport
spelling of name?

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[usenetquote2]> > Well, finally. My name always was the way I wonted it to be - English. It was so[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > until even English version was misspelled and I had to call CIC. And they said my[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > name has to be spelled exactly as in passport - something I don't want at all.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Now I have to send them corrections along with copies of passports. What I'm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > trying to find is - what spelling should I correct them to?[/usenetquote2]
They
[usenetquote2]> > have obviously used English, but over the phone they asking for French[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Andrew, if I understand you right, you are saying that I CAN use[/usenetquote2]
different
[usenetquote2]> > from passport spelling of name. I just have to make sure they didn't[/usenetquote2]
forget
[usenetquote2]> > to put my passport name in "Name Flag" field. Is it correct? If yes, would you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > please point me to an official[/usenetquote2]
information?
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Aleksey[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Now you've lost me. Looks like your name in the fields # 2 and # 3 is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > spelled[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > the way you want it, isn't it?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Due to the difference in spelling of your Russian names (which[/usenetquote2]
originally
[usenetquote2]> > are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > in Cyrillic) in English and in French both versions have been put in[/usenetquote2]
your
[usenetquote2]> > > landing document with the English one as the one you use and the[/usenetquote2]
French
[usenetquote2]> > version[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > in the Name Flag field to make sure that immigration officers at the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Canadian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > port of entry will not turn you back due to the difference between[/usenetquote2]
names
[usenetquote2]> > in the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > passport and those in the # 3 and # 3 fields of IMM 1000 form (landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > paper).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > So, if what you have in field # 2 and # 3 is what you want to use then[/usenetquote2]
you
[usenetquote2]> > > don't have any problem and nothing is to be changed.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Please correct me if I misinterpreted your intentions.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > sending an[/usenetquote2]
email)
[usenetquote2]> > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > It is spelled in English:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > 2. Surname: DESYATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > 3. Given Name: ALEKSEY[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > 4. Name Flag: ALEXEI DESSIATKOV[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > >[/usenetquote2]

[usenetquote2]> > > > > How then is your last name spelled in the Surname section of IMM[/usenetquote2]
1000
[usenetquote2]> > > > (very[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > first field)?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > --[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > ../..[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > before sending[/usenetquote2]
an
[usenetquote2]> > email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > >[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Thank you for information. One more question:[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > What is "name flag" field in "Record of Landing" used for? Currently it[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > contains my name spelled in French (passport) way. Can it be used[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > somehow?[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Aleksey,[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Canadian immigration authorities will accept any spelling as[/usenetquote2]
long
[usenetquote2]> > as[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > names[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > are[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > spelled that way in your passport. Instruction included with[/usenetquote2]
the
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > immigration[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > application kit clearly states that name in the application[/usenetquote2]
has to
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[usenetquote2]> > > > as[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > it is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > in the passport or in the official document that will be used[/usenetquote2]
in
[usenetquote2]> > > > obtaining[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > passport. You will not be using your US driver's license or[/usenetquote2]
any
[usenetquote2]> > other[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > US[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > ID[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > when obtaining Russian passport, so you cannot argue that your[/usenetquote2]
US
[usenetquote2]> > IDs[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > should be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > accepted as a proof of how your name will be spelled in[/usenetquote2]
Canadian
[usenetquote2]> > > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > papers, sorry it doesn't work that way.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Please bear in mind that changing name may cause you certain[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > problems[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > future - for example when applying for any Brazilian visa you[/usenetquote2]
must
[usenetquote2]> > > > produce[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > valid passport with original of your birth certificate and[/usenetquote2]
both
[usenetquote2]> > > > documents[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > have[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > to show the same name. Many other countries have similar[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > requirements.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > So, if you want to have "English spelling" of your name in the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > then the only way to have it is to apply for new Russian[/usenetquote2]
passports
[usenetquote2]> > > > before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > landing and hopefully Russian embassy will issue them with[/usenetquote2]
English
[usenetquote2]> > > > spelled[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > names. Then you may send landing papers with copies of new[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passports[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > for a[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > replacement and you should postpone your landing until you[/usenetquote2]
have
[usenetquote2]> > new[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > landing[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > documents issued. But as I understand getting new passports[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > through[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > embassy in US may be quite expensive, so changing name later[/usenetquote2]
in
[usenetquote2]> > Canada[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > will be[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > much simpler and cheaper (about Can$ 150.00).[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > before[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > email)[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > All our names had English spelling in our application. They never[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > said a word about difference between application and passport.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > All my documents including driver license, credit cards,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > certificates, visas and work authorization use English spelling.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > There has to be recognition of two spellings of one name without[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > undergoing "Change of Name" procedure. At least in the USA it works[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > this way: you enter America with different names in you visa and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > passport. After it you use VISA spelling for all your official[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > documents, including ones you submit for new passport. Russian[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > > > > embassy accepts English spelling, why Canada can't?[/usenetquote2]
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Aleksey Desyatkov

Without background check it would be 2 times faster.

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Ukrainec

"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]>
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the most >important word from the quotation - "acceptable". Ukrainian Travel Document
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Where do you see a word “acceptable” in the entire R14, huh? Why do you
feel you need to obfuscate the issue?

Look carefully under R14 (b). What does it say? “A valid and subsisting travel
document issued to that immigrant by the country of which he is a citizen or
national”. Why is that not “acceptable”, which is not even a term
under R14?

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possession of
(a) a valid and subsisting passport issued to that immigrant by the country of
which he is a citizen or national, other than a diplomatic, official or other
similar passport;
(b) a valid and subsisting travel document issued to that immigrant by the country of
which he is a citizen or national;
(c) a valid and subsisting identity or travel document
(d) that was issued to that immigrant by a country, and
(e) that is of the type issued to non-national residents of the country of issue,
refugees or stateless persons who are unable to obtain a passport or other travel
document from their country of citizenship or nationality, or who have no country
of citizenship or nationality; or
(f) a valid and subsisting identity or travel document issued to that immigrant and
specified in item 1 of Schedule VII.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a person who is a Convention refugee seeking
resettlement, a member of the country of asylum class or a member of the source
country class and who is in possession of a valid and subsisting immigrant visa
where, in the opinion of the visa officer who issued the immigrant visa, it
would, in practice, be impossible for that person to obtain a passport or an
identity or travel document.

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The word “acceptable” here is entirely yours.

[del]

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Section VII.

First of all, it is SCHEDULE VII, as you wrote above. Second, Travel Document of a
Child, issued by Ukraine, does not fall into SCHEDULE VII, which is the last
subsection on the list. It falls into the section (b); at least that’s how CIC
reads this section. Your conclusion is based on narrow and erroneous reading. Unless
all other possibilities are exhausted per R14 (a) through (c), then and only then,
and that’s what subsection R14 clearly stipulates with the “OR”
operand, it is required to proceed to subsection (d). Why then you took only SCHEDULE
VII as a basis for your statement and completely disregarded everything else?

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Kyiv for our >client's newborn child (photo taken 5 days after the birth and passport
issued >exactly 1 months after birth), so as far as I am concerned nothing has
changed >recently in Ukraine in respect to passports for minor kids and there is no
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And how does this all apply to the original poster, who is a Russian citizen? His kid
is not a newborn, and, apparently, when he left Russia, he’s got a stamp in his
passport about a kid travelling with him. His immediate problem is getting a passport
for his child from Russian Federation while residing abroad, which, for all I know,
Is a substantial problem.

Ukrainec

Luterin

Regarding misspelling of names on Record of Landing document: Our son's name was all
mixed up: Middle, Last, First (instead of First, Middle, Last)

We decided simply to Land and correct it later (our Landing papers arrived with
liitle time left to expiration).

After one year of residing in Ontario, it is possible to change/correct a name. We
have submitted our application for correction (with a fee) to the Office of the
Ontario Registrar General ( http://www.ccr.gov.on.ca/mccr/english/change_name.htm
)... We figured that at least in the case of a young child, it is easier as fewer
documents have to have the name corrected afterwards.

The situation may not be as simple/the same in your case, but I thought I let you
know of our experience.

-Lute.

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[usenetquote2]> > It took me just a little over a year to get Landing Papers from Buffalo. Looks[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > like background check in Russia is not that long after all.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > After closer look, exciting news was spoiled by mistypings. 3 out of 4 papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > have mistakes in:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > - given name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > - date of passport validity[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > - name flag[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > But worst of all is that in my 2 years old daughter paper, they wrote that she[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > has to have a valid passport at the time of landing. She IS already in my wife's[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passport, and she doesn't need a separate passport for traveling purposes. I'm[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > not even sure Russia issues passports to 2-years old children (I'm about to find[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > it out). There is no picture of my in my wife's passport (only record), but[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > picture is not required until 6 years (in Russian passports at least).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > How serious are these problems? If I would have to exchange my landing papers,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > how long does it take to get them back (I see a two weeks gap between "Date[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Issued" on Record of Landing and postal stamp on the envelope)? Have anyone[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > landed with children without their own passport?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > I would appreciate your feedback to my email or replies to this posting.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Thank you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Sincerely, Aleksey Desyatkov [email protected][/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
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Aleksey Desyatkov

Thanks to everyone for participation in discussion. I have already submitted my
request to CIC giving them 2 options with English spelling as preferred. I'll post
results in the NG as soon as I'll get Landing Papers back.

Thank you again.

Aleksey

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[usenetquote2]> > I've just called CIC about mistypings. Another problem has risen:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > They said that spelling of our names should be exactly the same with our[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passports. In Russian passports they use French spelling, but we would like to[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > keep our English spelling. Can we do it? If not, can we change spelling of our[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > names later?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Instruction says: "Print your full family name (surname) as it appears on your[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passport or on the official documents that will be used for obtaining your[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > passport." To obtain a new passport in the USA I would have to use English[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > spelling, since all my American IDs use it. Is it good enough reason for CIC?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > Aleksey[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > It took me just a little over a year to get Landing Papers from[/usenetquote2]
Buffalo.
[usenetquote2]> > > Looks like background check in Russia is not that long after all.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > After closer look, exciting news was spoiled by mistypings. 3 out of 4 papers[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > have mistakes in:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > - given name[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > - date of passport validity[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > - name flag[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > But worst of all is that in my 2 years old daughter paper, they wrote that she[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > has to have a valid passport at the time of landing. She IS already in my[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > wife's passport, and she doesn't need a separate passport for traveling[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > purposes. I'm not even sure Russia issues passports to 2-years old children[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > (I'm about to find it out). There is no picture of my in my wife's passport[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > (only record), but picture is not required until 6 years (in Russian passports[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > at least).[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > How serious are these problems? If I would have to exchange my landing papers,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > how long does it take to get them back (I see a two weeks gap between "Date[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Issued" on Record of Landing and postal stamp on the envelope)? Have anyone[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > landed with children without their own passport?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > I would appreciate your feedback to my email or replies to this posting. Thank[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > you.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Sincerely, Aleksey Desyatkov [email protected][/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
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