Muhammad Ali

YES, I saw his CAIPS notes. Otherwise he scores only 71

Regards
Ali
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Did you see your friend's CAIPS file with points allocation? If not then
how
    > can you be sure about it?
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I appreciate your advice and time. But how come 5 points were awarded to
    > my
    > > friend. He started working in canada in Feb 2003 and got his assessment
    > > letter in March 2003. Your comments on that?
    > >
    > > Regards
    > >
    > > Ali
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Unfortunately it is not how it works - one may not have full year of
    > > > experience in Canada at the time of application but must have it at
the
    > > time
    > > > assessment is being made in order to get 5 points. Your refusal is a
    > clear
    > > > case and you've been told many times that there is nothing you can do
    > > about
    > > > it anymore. You need to re-apply when you fully qualify.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Hi Mr Miller,
    > > > >
    > > > > I argue on the point that one can claim 5 points only after
compelting
    > > one
    > > > > year in Canada.My friend got 5 points for working in Canada under
    > > > > adapability even he just started working in Canada. Because by the
    > time
    > > he
    > > > > will get visa he will have one year work experience in Canada. Same
    > goes
    > > > in
    > > > > my case.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thank you for your comments
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards
    > > > >
    > > > > Ali
    > > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in
message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Not true.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You cannot claim any points just because you have any work permit.
    > You
    > > > > > cannot claim open, post-graduate (or spousal open) work permit as
    > > > arranged
    > > > > > employment, period. But you can claim 5 points in Adaptability
    > factor
    > > > for
    > > > > 1
    > > > > > full year of authorized work experience in Canada, although only
    > after
    > > > > such
    > > > > > 1 full year of work is completed.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ../..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > > ________________________________
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "compiler" wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > You have work permit. Are you currently working in Canada on a
    > > > > > > temporary work permit? If so, you may claim another 5 points
    > > although
    > > > > > > the visa officer might argue, "Did you have work permit and work
    > at
    > > > > > > the time of the adjudication of your application?
    > > > > > > ____________________________________
    > > > > > > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > > > > >
news:...
    > > > > > > > Hi Damodar,
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. You must be very relaxed after
seeing
    > my
    > > > > post.
    > > > > > But
    > > > > > > > question is if my reassesment request worked then why Buffalo
    > > > mailed
    > > > > > letter
    > > > > > > > to old mailing address as I mentioned in all documents that my
    > > > address
    > > > > > is
    > > > > > > > changed.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Me and my friend both have post graduate work permit.I am
asking
    > 5
    > > > > > points
    > > > > > > > under adapability section for working in canada. Most of you
    > will
    > > > say
    > > > > > that i
    > > > > > > > dont have one year exp yet but by the time i get Visa i will
    > have
    > > > one
    > > > > > year
    > > > > > > > exp. This is very confusing point and i think it totally
depends
    > > on
    > > > > Visa
    > > > > > > > officer. I even called CIC and they did not answer this
question
    > > and
    > > > > > asked
    > > > > > > > me to talk to buffalo.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > I am crossing my fingers and God knows may be I get third
letter
    > > in
    > > > a
    > > > > > month
    > > > > > > > with Interview Waiver
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Good luck
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Regards
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Ali
    > > > > > > > "reddy_cd" wrote in message
    > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Hi Ali,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Your second refusal proves that the request for
    > reconsideration
    > > > has
    > > > > > > > > worked, but not yielded the desired result. It's good to
note
    > > > that
    > > > > > they
    > > > > > > > > have considered the request and reassessed the case. I don't
    > > think
    > > > > > they
    > > > > > > > > have missed your work permit (as I understand you have sent
    > all
    > > > the
    > > > > > > > > documents along with your request for reconsideratiuon, so
    > there
    > > > is
    > > > > no
    > > > > > > > > chance to miss the work permit alone). I think that they
might
    > > > have
    > > > > > > > > ignored the work permit for the reasons mentioned by Mr.
    > Andrew.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > But again the thing is, you are tellling that your freind
    > (with
    > > > > > similar
    > > > > > > > > experience and qualifications) could get interview waiver
and
    > > > > waiting
    > > > > > > > > for the medicals to be done. Are you sure that both work
    > permits
    > > > are
    > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > same nature? If so, why is this discrepancy?
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Hope I too might get some reponse from the Buffalo office
    > > > regarding
    > > > > my
    > > > > > > > > case (request for reconsideration) as well.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Good luck
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Damodar
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Andrew Miller

Does his CAIPS file says the reason he got 5 points in Adaptability factor?
If he has exactly same credentials as you (post graduate work permit and not
yet completed full year of authorized work in Canada) then someone made a
mistake and it may be corrected later when final decision is being made.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > YES, I saw his CAIPS notes. Otherwise he scores only 71
    > Regards
    > Ali
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Did you see your friend's CAIPS file with points allocation? If not then
    > how
    > > can you be sure about it?
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > I appreciate your advice and time. But how come 5 points were awarded
to
    > > my
    > > > friend. He started working in canada in Feb 2003 and got his
assessment
    > > > letter in March 2003. Your comments on that?
    > > >
    > > > Regards
    > > >
    > > > Ali
    > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Unfortunately it is not how it works - one may not have full year of
    > > > > experience in Canada at the time of application but must have it at
    > the
    > > > time
    > > > > assessment is being made in order to get 5 points. Your refusal is a
    > > clear
    > > > > case and you've been told many times that there is nothing you can
do
    > > > about
    > > > > it anymore. You need to re-apply when you fully qualify.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Hi Mr Miller,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I argue on the point that one can claim 5 points only after
    > compelting
    > > > one
    > > > > > year in Canada.My friend got 5 points for working in Canada under
    > > > > > adapability even he just started working in Canada. Because by the
    > > time
    > > > he
    > > > > > will get visa he will have one year work experience in Canada.
Same
    > > goes
    > > > > in
    > > > > > my case.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thank you for your comments
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Regards
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Ali
    > > > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in
    > message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Not true.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > You cannot claim any points just because you have any work
permit.
    > > You
    > > > > > > cannot claim open, post-graduate (or spousal open) work permit
as
    > > > > arranged
    > > > > > > employment, period. But you can claim 5 points in Adaptability
    > > factor
    > > > > for
    > > > > > 1
    > > > > > > full year of authorized work experience in Canada, although only
    > > after
    > > > > > such
    > > > > > > 1 full year of work is completed.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > ../..
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > > > ________________________________
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "compiler" wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > You have work permit. Are you currently working in Canada on a
    > > > > > > > temporary work permit? If so, you may claim another 5 points
    > > > although
    > > > > > > > the visa officer might argue, "Did you have work permit and
work
    > > at
    > > > > > > > the time of the adjudication of your application?
    > > > > > > > ____________________________________
    > > > > > > > "Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
    > > > > > >
    > news:...
    > > > > > > > > Hi Damodar,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. You must be very relaxed after
    > seeing
    > > my
    > > > > > post.
    > > > > > > But
    > > > > > > > > question is if my reassesment request worked then why
Buffalo
    > > > > mailed
    > > > > > > letter
    > > > > > > > > to old mailing address as I mentioned in all documents that
my
    > > > > address
    > > > > > > is
    > > > > > > > > changed.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Me and my friend both have post graduate work permit.I am
    > asking
    > > 5
    > > > > > > points
    > > > > > > > > under adapability section for working in canada. Most of you
    > > will
    > > > > say
    > > > > > > that i
    > > > > > > > > dont have one year exp yet but by the time i get Visa i will
    > > have
    > > > > one
    > > > > > > year
    > > > > > > > > exp. This is very confusing point and i think it totally
    > depends
    > > > on
    > > > > > Visa
    > > > > > > > > officer. I even called CIC and they did not answer this
    > question
    > > > and
    > > > > > > asked
    > > > > > > > > me to talk to buffalo.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > I am crossing my fingers and God knows may be I get third
    > letter
    > > > in
    > > > > a
    > > > > > > month
    > > > > > > > > with Interview Waiver
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Good luck
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Regards
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Ali
    > > > > > > > > "reddy_cd" wrote in message
    > > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Hi Ali,
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Your second refusal proves that the request for
    > > reconsideration
    > > > > has
    > > > > > > > > > worked, but not yielded the desired result. It's good to
    > note
    > > > > that
    > > > > > > they
    > > > > > > > > > have considered the request and reassessed the case. I
don't
    > > > think
    > > > > > > they
    > > > > > > > > > have missed your work permit (as I understand you have
sent
    > > all
    > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > documents along with your request for reconsideratiuon, so
    > > there
    > > > > is
    > > > > > no
    > > > > > > > > > chance to miss the work permit alone). I think that they
    > might
    > > > > have
    > > > > > > > > > ignored the work permit for the reasons mentioned by Mr.
    > > Andrew.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > But again the thing is, you are tellling that your freind
    > > (with
    > > > > > > similar
    > > > > > > > > > experience and qualifications) could get interview waiver
    > and
    > > > > > waiting
    > > > > > > > > > for the medicals to be done. Are you sure that both work
    > > permits
    > > > > are
    > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > same nature? If so, why is this discrepancy?
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Hope I too might get some reponse from the Buffalo office
    > > > > regarding
    > > > > > my
    > > > > > > > > > case (request for reconsideration) as well.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Good luck
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Damodar
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

montreallimbo

Just try to apply to Quebec..... Try that option instead of pushing your limits in federal that much... Just a suggestion...

Abw

Which one has better job prospect for someone who speaks little/zero French?
Montreal or Gatineau
I've been to Montreal twice but not sure......

montreallimbo wrote in message news:...
    > Just try to apply to Quebec..... Try that option instead of pushing your
    > limits in federal that much... Just a suggestion...

Berto Volpentesta

If you work in Canada for one year on a work permit you will get five
points.

--
All responses IMHO and no one else's.


Berto Volpentesta
Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.
Serving People Around the World Since 1991
www.svcanada.com

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"Muhammad Ali" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi
    > I have posted details of my Refusal of application before. today i got
    > another letter from Buffalo refusing me again this time with 73 points.
Here
    > are the details of my first refusal letter
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > ------------------------------------------------------
    > Got first refusal letter on May 30, 2003
    > Points awarded: 66/100
    > I mailed my educational documents and french lanaguage courses certificate
    > in Feb 2003 (No IELTS and NO TEF)
    > Work permit mailed on April 23, 2003
    > Education: 25
    > Age: 10
    > WE: 15
    > Language: 16
    > Adapability: 5
    > Total : 66
    > I was not given points for my Masters Education and work permit when the
    > assessment was made
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > -----------------------------------------------
    > After getting first refusal letter, I mailed my educational , work permit
    > and french certificate again. Faxed these documents ten times and mailed
    > them five times
    > I also told Consulate that my mailing address is changed . But even the
new
    > letter i received today was mailed on my old mailing address. It means
that
    > they have not got my mail
    > Here are the breakdown of new points the visa officer awarded me
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > --
    > Second Refusal Letter on July 4, 2003
    > Points awarded : 73/100
    > In second assessment i was awarded the points for my Masters degree(+5)
and
    > surprisingly 2 points for french as I did not submit TEF. Just did two
    > months french course at night school
    > Education: 25
    > Age: 10
    > WE: 15
    > Language: 18 (16 + 2)
    > Adapability: 5
    > Total 73
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > ------
    > I got my work permit on april 22, 2003 and i am curently working on work
    > permit and I dont have one year work exp in canada yet. I think that visa
    > officer did not get my work permit mail yet. May be still in mail room.
Can
    > i get five points for my work permit?
    > I am asking this because a friend of mine has same case as mine. Same
    > education and work experience. he recently got work permit and he got
    > interview waiver
    > Any suggestions ?
    > Thanks for reading such a long email
    > regards
    > Ali

Kismit

Berto, what does IMHO stand for in your post?

Kismit

Abw

Kismit wrote in message news:...
    > Berto, what does IMHO stand for in your post?

In My Humble Opinion (IMHO)

Goldfinger

"Berto Volpentesta" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > If you work in Canada for one year on a work permit you will get five
    > points.

I think the poster worked in Canada after graduation and not on a work
permit, hence, he didn't get the 5 points.