Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
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Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Hi,
So me and my husband have been waiting for our PR for 5 months now. We will hit 6 on July 9th which will be the 'deadline' they set to process PR applications. We haven't heard anything really since March when they asked us to submit my husbands FBi check. We are starting to get anxious now waiting in the U.K. and was wondering are we able to travel to Canada as tourists whilst waiting for our application to finish processing, without having to come back to the U.K. to finish up etc
I know with landing we can just cross from the USA into Canada to activate that.
Thanks!
So me and my husband have been waiting for our PR for 5 months now. We will hit 6 on July 9th which will be the 'deadline' they set to process PR applications. We haven't heard anything really since March when they asked us to submit my husbands FBi check. We are starting to get anxious now waiting in the U.K. and was wondering are we able to travel to Canada as tourists whilst waiting for our application to finish processing, without having to come back to the U.K. to finish up etc
I know with landing we can just cross from the USA into Canada to activate that.
Thanks!
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
I suggest you read this link and then you decide if its worth the risk
Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read
Yes many have done it but nobody can say what would happen at a POE.
Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read
Yes many have done it but nobody can say what would happen at a POE.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
I suggest you read this link and then you decide if its worth the risk
Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read
Yes many have done it but nobody can say what would happen at a POE.
Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read
Yes many have done it but nobody can say what would happen at a POE.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Remember that the 6 months isn’t a ‘deadline’, it’s only the average processing time for 80% of applications.
Unlike other PR apps such as spousal sponsorship, economic classes aren’t ‘dual intent’, so it would be very risky IMO. If the CBSA officer (which could possibly be Former Lancastrian!) thinks you’re trying to stay in Canada without a visa and aren’t a genuine visitor (which is after all, correct), then you’re at risk of being refused entry. Would you have ties to the UK to show if asked?
Unlike other PR apps such as spousal sponsorship, economic classes aren’t ‘dual intent’, so it would be very risky IMO. If the CBSA officer (which could possibly be Former Lancastrian!) thinks you’re trying to stay in Canada without a visa and aren’t a genuine visitor (which is after all, correct), then you’re at risk of being refused entry. Would you have ties to the UK to show if asked?
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Remember that the 6 months isn’t a ‘deadline’, it’s only the average processing time for 80% of applications.
Unlike other PR apps such as spousal sponsorship, economic classes aren’t ‘dual intent’, so it would be very risky IMO. If the CBSA officer (which could possibly be Former Lancastrian!) thinks you’re trying to stay in Canada without a visa and aren’t a genuine visitor (which is after all, correct), then you’re at risk of being refused entry. Would you have ties to the UK to show if asked?
Unlike other PR apps such as spousal sponsorship, economic classes aren’t ‘dual intent’, so it would be very risky IMO. If the CBSA officer (which could possibly be Former Lancastrian!) thinks you’re trying to stay in Canada without a visa and aren’t a genuine visitor (which is after all, correct), then you’re at risk of being refused entry. Would you have ties to the UK to show if asked?
We are both from the U.K. and have lived here our whole lives, and the only trouble either of us has been in was my husband had a drink driving conviction when he was 22 (18 years ago), but they have all the information. It's literally the background check is the last thing we are waiting for by the looks of it.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
We would have a return flight back to the U.K. - As it stands we are still both employed, but my husbands job comes to an end this month. I may move with mine depending if they will let me. But in terms of other ties, they would be hard to prove as we have moved from our rented property (the lease was up and rolling wasn't an option) my husband has handed his notice at work (it's was a 3 month period) due to end at the end of June.
We are both from the U.K. and have lived here our whole lives, and the only trouble either of us has been in was my husband had a drink driving conviction when he was 22 (18 years ago), but they have all the information. It's literally the background check is the last thing we are waiting for by the looks of it.
We are both from the U.K. and have lived here our whole lives, and the only trouble either of us has been in was my husband had a drink driving conviction when he was 22 (18 years ago), but they have all the information. It's literally the background check is the last thing we are waiting for by the looks of it.
Please take note of Former Lancastrians post - he understands the laws and how they are interpreted, as christmasoompa hinted!
You would not be bona fide visitors with an intent to stay 2-4 weeks and then leave - your intention would be to come and stay permanently. As such, you could be refused entry.
Until such time as you have PR approval and can do a landing trip, I agree that you are risking your potential future for the sake of waiting a couple of months. Is it worth it?
Now, that doesn't mean you couldn't come for a week or three on a reccie trip, with careful planning, sufficient funds, hotel bookings (or letters confirming the dates you are staying with friends or relatives), a specific plan of action for the trip - such as visit Vancouver / Squamish / Kelowna to look at housing / jobs' or whatever, and proof of sufficient ties to the UK and return flights home. Basically you need to prove that you intend to leave at the end of the trip .. and need to get back to work, to your home, to your family / kids / pets / college course or whatever!
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Assume the OP will not be arriving with all their worldly possessions in multiple suitcases for a visit then which could be cause for additional scrutiny given genuine visitors mostly travel with just enough luggage for their stay. As for using a lawyer it is not the lawyer who is applying for PR or coming as a visitor they will not be there at the POE. As for a 'deadline' of 6 months hopefully the OP has a plan should this worst case extend to 8,9,12 months which is why recommendation always will be wait in home country other than maybe a short looksee trip in the interim.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Thanks for all the replies here, I think we are likely just to hold off on going. I want this more than anything, and if this has the potential to jeopardise the situation then it's not worth it. Hopefully we hear back really soon.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
Best of luck and hope your application is finalised soon - with the COPR being sent quickly.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
This is interesting... I was intending to go to Whistler for a month or so in August for a quick recon trip. My PR application has been in IP2 since mid-May, and was very quick at progressing to that stage (I only applied on the 28th April), so with a bit of luck I could have COPR by August anyway.
I thought I'd be ok to visit Canada again as I do have an IEC visa which expires in November. (I left Canada in June 2017)
What would you say I should do?
I own my home in the UK, so would that be a good proof of ties?
I thought I'd be ok to visit Canada again as I do have an IEC visa which expires in November. (I left Canada in June 2017)
What would you say I should do?
I own my home in the UK, so would that be a good proof of ties?
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
This is interesting... I was intending to go to Whistler for a month or so in August for a quick recon trip. My PR application has been in IP2 since mid-May, and was very quick at progressing to that stage (I only applied on the 28th April), so with a bit of luck I could have COPR by August anyway.
I thought I'd be ok to visit Canada again as I do have an IEC visa which expires in November. (I left Canada in June 2017)
What would you say I should do?
I own my home in the UK, so would that be a good proof of ties?
I thought I'd be ok to visit Canada again as I do have an IEC visa which expires in November. (I left Canada in June 2017)
What would you say I should do?
I own my home in the UK, so would that be a good proof of ties?
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We came to Canada for a number of reccie trips during our application for PR. One was a very short time prior to receiving PR (in fact my wife called me from England to inform me that we had received our requests for passports) and, at that time, we had sold our house in the UK too.
I didn't have a hotel booked when I arrived and, as we were looking to buy a house on that trip, I had significant funds in a Canadian bank account.
If you have return tickets (they will likely be cheaper than one way tickets anyway) I believe it would be a ballsy CBSA person that would refuse you entry.
I didn't have a hotel booked when I arrived and, as we were looking to buy a house on that trip, I had significant funds in a Canadian bank account.
If you have return tickets (they will likely be cheaper than one way tickets anyway) I believe it would be a ballsy CBSA person that would refuse you entry.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
We came to Canada for a number of reccie trips during our application for PR. One was a very short time prior to receiving PR (in fact my wife called me from England to inform me that we had received our requests for passports) and, at that time, we had sold our house in the UK too.
I didn't have a hotel booked when I arrived and, as we were looking to buy a house on that trip, I had significant funds in a Canadian bank account.
If you have return tickets (they will likely be cheaper than one way tickets anyway) I believe it would be a ballsy CBSA person that would refuse you entry.
I didn't have a hotel booked when I arrived and, as we were looking to buy a house on that trip, I had significant funds in a Canadian bank account.
If you have return tickets (they will likely be cheaper than one way tickets anyway) I believe it would be a ballsy CBSA person that would refuse you entry.
With respect, times have changed since you gained PR and they have clamped right down. Perhaps read Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read - it's not an isolated case.
For member Colin_N it wouldn't apply anyway as he still has a valid work permit.
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Re: Going to Canada as a tourist whilst waiting for PR
With respect, times have changed since you gained PR and they have clamped right down. Perhaps read Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read - it's not an isolated case.
For member Colin_N it wouldn't apply anyway as he still has a valid work permit.
For member Colin_N it wouldn't apply anyway as he still has a valid work permit.