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Old May 9th 2003, 8:45 am
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S B
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NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >
    > Page 8 of
    > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >
    > says,
    >
    > The Problem:
    >
    > "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    > manner, there are many who do not"
    >
    > Like I said since there are no government regulations that exist for the so
    > called / and even self proclaimed immigration consultants, people should shy
    > away from consultants and opt for immigration lawyers for reasons I mentioned
    > before. If in doubt check the PDF link above and look at page 8 and see and I
    > quote again,
    >
    > The Problem:
    >
    > "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    > manner, there are many who do not"
    >
    > Take notice on the phrase "MANY WHO DO NOT".

And again, there are many lawyers who do not conduct their work in an
ethical manner either. The only difference is that the unethical lawyer
you can hope the law society will do something about.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 9:16 am
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As an active member of this group, I respectfully disagree to some of
the users' comments on Consultants over the Immigration Attorneys.

I've personally read many posting on this board that, people who
already hired immigration Attorneys or firm are seeking help that
their so called Immigration Attorney's don't even know what's the next
step or what do. Just to give an example: when someone's case is
rejected, their attorney's didn't even know how, where, when
(deadline) to appeal etc.

Want to know some more horror pictures, even those so called
Immigration Attorney's / Firms also use this forum to ask questions
that they themselves don't know. I've seen Mr. Miller and other
consultants answering the questions for them.

Also I'm in Bay Area, USA and same thing I learned in USA over the
last 10 years that, just because being an Immigration attorney does
not really mean that the person knows all aspect of it. Another
example for my personal case, my H-1B is expiring this month and I've
called at least 20 Immigration Attorneys and everyone said one thing -
there's no way you can stay here but to leave the country for a year
to get another H-1B. But truth of the mater of fact is: I can easily
move to another non-immigrant visa like E-2 or F-1 before the
expiration of my H-1B (my Canadian PR case is still being processed),

So please do not assume / guess anything but if you really have to
comment on something, be sure that it's truly authentic and TRUE.

If I ever have to use any legal advice or help, I personally would
definitely use Mr. Miller rather than those Immigration Attorney who
in most cases really don't know the current laws and how Immigration
cases are currently being handled with the ever changing new laws and
regulations.

Good luck to everyone.

- Sala

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Please read the full report before making any uneducated and ungrounded
    > comments:
    >
    > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >
    > And note that it was our immigration consultants community who was pushing
    > government for more than 10 years to do something about regulating and it is
    > us who will self-regulate our industry.
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > It's the exception to the rule. Lawyers train for as much as 8 years in
    > > Canada; and then they have to take the bar exam to be admitted to the bar
    > among
    > > other things. The so called immigration consultants don't get that kind
    > of
    > > training if at all; and they are not regulated. And that is why Canada
    > > government wants to regulate them soon as possible because of the many
    > > anomalies that comes with them.
    > >
    > > >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    > > >From: S B [email protected]
    > > >Date: 5/9/03 2:06 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    > > >Message-id:
    > > >
    > > >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because
    > they
    > know
    > > >> the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    > > >> immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why
    > the
    > > >> Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many
    > anomalies
    > > >> about them it seems.
    > > >
    > > >What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
    > > >posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old May 9th 2003, 9:52 am
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I just quoted directly from the Canadian Immigration website. There are some
untrusty lawyers as oppose to many (according to CIC PDF) unethical immigration
consultants not even regulated.

So my advise take your best bet the immigration lawyers. Until immigration
consultants self proclaimed or not gets regulated, shy away from them. If
regulated I still say go for the lawyers.



    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: S B [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 4:45 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >>
    >> Page 8 of
    >> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >>
    >> says,
    >>
    >> The Problem:
    >>
    >> "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    >> manner, there are many who do not"
    >>
    >> Like I said since there are no government regulations that exist for the so
    >> called / and even self proclaimed immigration consultants, people should
    >shy
    >> away from consultants and opt for immigration lawyers for reasons I
    >mentioned
    >> before. If in doubt check the PDF link above and look at page 8 and see
    >and I
    >> quote again,
    >>
    >> The Problem:
    >>
    >> "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    >> manner, there are many who do not"
    >>
    >> Take notice on the phrase "MANY WHO DO NOT".
    >And again, there are many lawyers who do not conduct their work in an
    >ethical manner either. The only difference is that the unethical lawyer
    >you can hope the law society will do something about.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 9:53 am
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And you said it "you can hope the law society will do something about."
regarding lawyers. Immigration consultants are like the wild west.

    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: S B [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 4:45 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >>
    >> Page 8 of
    >> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >>
    >> says,
    >>
    >> The Problem:
    >>
    >> "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    >> manner, there are many who do not"
    >>
    >> Like I said since there are no government regulations that exist for the so
    >> called / and even self proclaimed immigration consultants, people should
    >shy
    >> away from consultants and opt for immigration lawyers for reasons I
    >mentioned
    >> before. If in doubt check the PDF link above and look at page 8 and see
    >and I
    >> quote again,
    >>
    >> The Problem:
    >>
    >> "Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
    >> manner, there are many who do not"
    >>
    >> Take notice on the phrase "MANY WHO DO NOT".
    >And again, there are many lawyers who do not conduct their work in an
    >ethical manner either. The only difference is that the unethical lawyer
    >you can hope the law society will do something about.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 9:58 am
  #20  
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Don't believe everything anybody says here. Just goto CIC website and check,

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf

look for the section "The Problem", with the so called immigration
consultants, coming from an official CIC website.


    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: [email protected] (Sala)
    >Date: 5/9/03 5:16 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >As an active member of this group, I respectfully disagree to some of
    >the users' comments on Consultants over the Immigration Attorneys.
    >I've personally read many posting on this board that, people who
    >already hired immigration Attorneys or firm are seeking help that
    >their so called Immigration Attorney's don't even know what's the next
    >step or what do. Just to give an example: when someone's case is
    >rejected, their attorney's didn't even know how, where, when
    >(deadline) to appeal etc.
    >Want to know some more horror pictures, even those so called
    >Immigration Attorney's / Firms also use this forum to ask questions
    >that they themselves don't know. I've seen Mr. Miller and other
    >consultants answering the questions for them.
    >Also I'm in Bay Area, USA and same thing I learned in USA over the
    >last 10 years that, just because being an Immigration attorney does
    >not really mean that the person knows all aspect of it. Another
    >example for my personal case, my H-1B is expiring this month and I've
    >called at least 20 Immigration Attorneys and everyone said one thing -
    >there's no way you can stay here but to leave the country for a year
    >to get another H-1B. But truth of the mater of fact is: I can easily
    >move to another non-immigrant visa like E-2 or F-1 before the
    >expiration of my H-1B (my Canadian PR case is still being processed),
    >So please do not assume / guess anything but if you really have to
    >comment on something, be sure that it's truly authentic and TRUE.
    >If I ever have to use any legal advice or help, I personally would
    >definitely use Mr. Miller rather than those Immigration Attorney who
    >in most cases really don't know the current laws and how Immigration
    >cases are currently being handled with the ever changing new laws and
    >regulations.
    >Good luck to everyone.
    >- Sala
    >"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Please read the full report before making any uneducated and ungrounded
    >> comments:
    >>
    >> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >>
    >> And note that it was our immigration consultants community who was pushing
    >> government for more than 10 years to do something about regulating and it
    >is
    >> us who will self-regulate our industry.
    >> --
    >>
    >> ../..
    >>
    >> Andrew Miller
    >> Immigration Consultant
    >> Vancouver, British Columbia
    >> email: [email protected]
    >> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >> ________________________________
    >>
    >>
    >> "NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > It's the exception to the rule. Lawyers train for as much as 8 years in
    >> > Canada; and then they have to take the bar exam to be admitted to the bar
    >> among
    >> > other things. The so called immigration consultants don't get that kind
    >> of
    >> > training if at all; and they are not regulated. And that is why Canada
    >> > government wants to regulate them soon as possible because of the many
    >> > anomalies that comes with them.
    >> >
    >> > >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >> > >From: S B [email protected]
    >> > >Date: 5/9/03 2:06 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >> > >Message-id:
    >> > >
    >> > >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >> > >>
    >> > >> A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because
    >> they
    >> know
    >> > >> the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    >> > >> immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why
    >> the
    >> > >> Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many
    >> anomalies
    >> > >> about them it seems.
    >> > >
    >> > >What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
    >> > >posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> >
 
Old May 9th 2003, 10:54 am
  #21  
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You proved again northernligths aka aikido that you are just stupid,
uneducated idiot who reads only what fits your small brain.

The report you are pointing to is not a CIC document - it is a report
with recommendations for CIC prepared by Advisory Committee
represented by all sectors of immigration industry, including lawyers,
consultants and government employees.

Get lost you idiot!!!!


On 09 May 2003 21:58:04 GMT, [email protected]
(NorthernLigths25) wrote:

    >Don't believe everything anybody says here. Just goto CIC website and check,
    >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >look for the section "The Problem", with the so called immigration
    >consultants, coming from an official CIC website.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 11:03 am
  #22  
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This shows who the idiot is, which is you austin AKA Stuart. You just said
"recommendations for CIC prepared by Advisory Committee represented by all
sectors of immigration industry, including lawyers, consultants and government
employees.", so that means immigration consultants themselves were involved in
the study. Look at Page 8, the same consultants says there are many unethical
immigration consultants, not few but MANY. So you get lost idiot.


    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: Austin [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 6:54 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >You proved again northernligths aka aikido that you are just stupid,
    >uneducated idiot who reads only what fits your small brain.
    >The report you are pointing to is not a CIC document - it is a report
    >with recommendations for CIC prepared by Advisory Committee
    >represented by all sectors of immigration industry, including lawyers,
    >consultants and government employees.
    >Get lost you idiot!!!!
    >On 09 May 2003 21:58:04 GMT, [email protected]
    >(NorthernLigths25) wrote:
    >>Don't believe everything anybody says here. Just goto CIC website and
    >check,
    >>http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >>look for the section "The Problem", with the so called immigration
    >>consultants, coming from an official CIC website.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 12:02 pm
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Ther "lawyer" word does not mean "efficiency or effectiveness" neither the word "consultant" does. Personally I think the degree tells you very little about a person´s ability to develope his/her job.

Both can know the law from a to z. But the best one is who interprets it right and applies it according to the client`s demands. Years of experience and succesful cases tell you more than years in the university. I´d rather hire a consultant with 8 years of experience than a Lawyer that has studied for 8 years.
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Old May 9th 2003, 1:10 pm
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I suggest you read page 8 section on the problem with consultants of that CIC
PDF. I'd rather hire a lawyer with 8 years of education, plus 8 years or more
of experience.

    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: Allinall [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 8:02 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >Ther "lawyer" word does not mean "efficiency or effectiveness" neither
    >the word "consultant" does. Personally I think the degree tells you
    >very little about a person´s ability to develope his/her job.
    >Both can know the law from a to z. But the best one is who interprets it
    >right and applies it according to the client`s demands. Years of
    >experience and succesful cases tell you more than years in the
    >university. I´d rather hire a consultant with 8 years of experience than
    >a Lawyer that has studied for 8 years.
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    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old May 9th 2003, 8:01 pm
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How about Garry Mitchell?
 

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