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Feedback on Maple International lawyers

Old May 6th 2003, 4:47 pm
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Juan
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Default Feedback on Maple International lawyers

Can anyone send some feedback on Maple International lawyers based in
California and share their experience with them?

Are they friendly, they sound hesitant when answering questions.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 1:01 am
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S B
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Juan wrote:
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    > Can anyone send some feedback on Maple International lawyers based in
    > California and share their experience with them?
    >
    > Are they friendly, they sound hesitant when answering questions.

Little content on their web site, although one must ask that since they
claim to be in Ontario and Quebec, why are they in Californa? At least
they do talk about the new law. There was a question in here a year or
so ago about them but with no answer.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 6:21 am
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Compiler
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You may ask "Are you a lawyer?" and see what is their answer.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 1:30 pm
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Juan
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They seem to advertise a lot, no one has any experiences with them??

Which lawyer would you recommend, any one in bay area????
 
Old May 7th 2003, 1:56 pm
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Austin
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Don't hire anyone outside Canada - only your representative based in
Canada can obtain information about your file as per Canadian law.
Thus hiring foreign based agents is worthless - as CIC warns on their
website pretty clearly.

Hire one of experts contributing to this forum for many years -
Andrew Miller, Jim Humphries, James Metcalfe or Berto Volpentesta.
They have demonstrated their expertise over and over again and you
don't need to guess anything about them. Their reputation is proven.
Few of them also provide free evaluation (Andrew Miller for example as
far as I know) and are just phone call or email away.

They are in Canada and can access your file in CIC ones application
is in the process - guys in California cannot, no matter what they are
telling you. Check with CIC website for yourself

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/represent.html

Stay away from webimmigration and alike - simple search for past posts
in this forum will tell you why.

I hired Andrew Miller with my case and it was the best decision I ever
made.


On 7 May 2003 18:30:10 -0700, [email protected] (Juan) wrote:

    >They seem to advertise a lot, no one has any experiences with them??
    >Which lawyer would you recommend, any one in bay area????
 
Old May 7th 2003, 7:19 pm
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Juan
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Maple folks claim that they are registered law firm in both Quebec
Canada and California USA.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 11:33 pm
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Juan wrote:
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    > Maple folks claim that they are registered law firm in both Quebec
    > Canada and California USA.

Normally a law firm will name their principals (i.e. the lawyers that
form the company).
 
Old May 8th 2003, 6:20 pm
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Juan
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Which lawyers do you guys use and recommend? Seems like no one has
used the Maple lawyers, as there hasn't been any feedback on these.
 
Old May 8th 2003, 6:31 pm
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Austin
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I have already told you the names of one of the best guys in this
business who contribute to this forum for many years and have proven
their expertise and credibility many times, over and over again -
Andrew Miller, James Metcalfe, Jim Humphries and Berto Volpentesta.
Did you contact any of them yet?

As I said earlier - I hired Andrew Miller and I am very happy with my
decision.

On 8 May 2003 23:20:31 -0700, [email protected] (Juan) wrote:

    >Which lawyers do you guys use and recommend? Seems like no one has
    >used the Maple lawyers, as there hasn't been any feedback on these.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 2:00 am
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S B
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NorthernLigths25 wrote:
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    > Just make sure you are hiring a real lawyer otherwise be very careful.

I know some real lawyers that practiced immigration law that I wouldn't
go near - they were disbarred. There are good and bad in both lawyers
and consultants - just because a person has the credentials of a lawyer
doesn't make them necessarily more knowledgable, or better at helping
you. The only real difference, with a lawyer, you have some recompense
if things go wrong with the law society, whereas with a bad consultant
you have nothing.

Go with references ... you've had several.

The time you should actually have a lawyer is if you need representation
before an immigration court.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 5:37 am
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Northernligths25
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A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because they know
the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why the
Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many anomalies
about them it seems.

    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: S B [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 10:00 AM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >>
    >> Just make sure you are hiring a real lawyer otherwise be very careful.
    >I know some real lawyers that practiced immigration law that I wouldn't
    >go near - they were disbarred. There are good and bad in both lawyers
    >and consultants - just because a person has the credentials of a lawyer
    >doesn't make them necessarily more knowledgable, or better at helping
    >you. The only real difference, with a lawyer, you have some recompense
    >if things go wrong with the law society, whereas with a bad consultant
    >you have nothing.
    >Go with references ... you've had several.
    >The time you should actually have a lawyer is if you need representation
    >before an immigration court.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 6:06 am
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S B
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NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >
    > A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because they know
    > the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    > immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why the
    > Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many anomalies
    > about them it seems.

What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 6:36 am
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Northernligths25
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It's the exception to the rule. Lawyers train for as much as 8 years in
Canada; and then they have to take the bar exam to be admitted to the bar among
other things. The so called immigration consultants don't get that kind of
training if at all; and they are not regulated. And that is why Canada
government wants to regulate them soon as possible because of the many
anomalies that comes with them.

    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: S B [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 2:06 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >>
    >> A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because they
    >know
    >> the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    >> immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why the
    >> Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many anomalies
    >> about them it seems.
    >What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
    >posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
 
Old May 9th 2003, 6:58 am
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Andrew Miller
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Default Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers

Please read the full report before making any uneducated and ungrounded
comments:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf

And note that it was our immigration consultants community who was pushing
government for more than 10 years to do something about regulating and it is
us who will self-regulate our industry.
--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > It's the exception to the rule. Lawyers train for as much as 8 years in
    > Canada; and then they have to take the bar exam to be admitted to the bar
among
    > other things. The so called immigration consultants don't get that kind
of
    > training if at all; and they are not regulated. And that is why Canada
    > government wants to regulate them soon as possible because of the many
    > anomalies that comes with them.
    > >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    > >From: S B [email protected]
    > >Date: 5/9/03 2:06 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    > >Message-id:
    > >
    > >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    > >>
    > >> A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because
they
    > >know
    > >> the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    > >> immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why
the
    > >> Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many
anomalies
    > >> about them it seems.
    > >
    > >What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
    > >posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old May 9th 2003, 8:22 am
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Northernligths25
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Default Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers

Page 8 of
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf

says,

The Problem:

"Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
manner, there are many who do not"

Like I said since there are no government regulations that exist for the so
called / and even self proclaimed immigration consultants, people should shy
away from consultants and opt for immigration lawyers for reasons I mentioned
before. If in doubt check the PDF link above and look at page 8 and see and I
quote again,

The Problem:

"Although there are many consultants who conduct their work in an ethical
manner, there are many who do not"

Take notice on the phrase "MANY WHO DO NOT".

    >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >From: "Andrew Miller" [email protected]
    >Date: 5/9/03 2:58 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >Please read the full report before making any uneducated and ungrounded
    >comments:
    >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub...te-consult.pdf
    >And note that it was our immigration consultants community who was pushing
    >government for more than 10 years to do something about regulating and it is
    >us who will self-regulate our industry.
    >--
    >../..
    >Andrew Miller
    >Immigration Consultant
    >Vancouver, British Columbia
    >email: [email protected]
    >(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >________________________________
    >"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> It's the exception to the rule. Lawyers train for as much as 8 years in
    >> Canada; and then they have to take the bar exam to be admitted to the bar
    >among
    >> other things. The so called immigration consultants don't get that kind
    >of
    >> training if at all; and they are not regulated. And that is why Canada
    >> government wants to regulate them soon as possible because of the many
    >> anomalies that comes with them.
    >> >Subject: Re: Feedback on Maple International lawyers
    >> >From: S B [email protected]
    >> >Date: 5/9/03 2:06 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >> >Message-id:
    >> >
    >> >NorthernLigths25 wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> A lawyer is always preferable about immigration consultants because
    >they
    >> >know
    >> >> the law. Not just any kind of lawyers but immigration lawyers. Avoid
    >> >> immigration consultants since they are not regulated and that is why
    >the
    >> >> Cnadian government want them to be regulated since there are many
    >anomalies
    >> >> about them it seems.
    >> >
    >> >What about immigration lawyers who were disbarred? Did you ever see the
    >> >posts by Ingrid Chen ? Often wrong ... and she was disbarred.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
 

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