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Old Nov 14th 2014, 2:28 pm
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I'm looking into landing at Niagara, but from what I've read, turning up on foot is a bad idea as the US peeps have an hour of paperwork to fill out just to reject me.

With that in mind, when I don't drive, what do I do? Get the train to Buffalo? I would really like to get this done as fast as possible, but it doesn't seem to be particularly easy...

(note: I called to see if there was an appointment at the cic office I could have, the dick on the misinformation line told me 8 weeks to BOOK an appointment. I also read on here that offices that you could just turn up to and have stuff done were shut down about 2 years ago. Is that ALL of the offices? Is there still a wonderful place that I can just show up and wait in line to have my paperwork signed?)
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Originally Posted by psynergy
I'm looking into landing at Niagara, but from what I've read, turning up on foot is a bad idea as the US peeps have an hour of paperwork to fill out just to reject me.

With that in mind, when I don't drive, what do I do? Get the train to Buffalo? I would really like to get this done as fast as possible, but it doesn't seem to be particularly easy...
Is it that you can't drive or that you don't have a car?

If the former, WTF are you doing in Canada? If the latter just rent one.

And where did you hear that arriving on foot across the bridge from Niagara Falls makes any difference in the time to flagpole? Apart of course in the time to walk twice across the bridge compared to driving across.
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Old Nov 14th 2014, 2:43 pm
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1) I come from London, UK. Why the hell would I ever want/need to drive?!

2) Apologies, I wrote a second sentence for that part of my post in my head without actually writing it.

Because I'm walking, it would be highly suspicious for me to say I'm just visiting the US for the day, as most people flag polling would (because wtf, am I going to walk the whole way?!) and so they would have to spend the extra hour filling out the 'rejected from entering the US' papework only for me to turn back around. It was my impression that saying 'i'm visiting the US for the day' and paying the $6 was a far faster way to get through the border
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Originally Posted by psynergy
1) I come from London, UK. Why the hell would I ever want/need to drive?!
Largely, I suppose, because you're not living there any more.

2) Apologies, I wrote a second sentence for that part of my post in my head without actually writing it.

Because I'm walking, it would be highly suspicious for me to say I'm just visiting the US for the day, as most people flag polling would (because wtf, am I going to walk the whole way?!) and so they would have to spend the extra hour filling out the 'rejected from entering the US' papework only for me to turn back around. It was my impression that saying 'i'm visiting the US for the day' and paying the $6 was a far faster way to get through the border
Perhaps if you just say that you're flagpoling?
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Living in Toronto doesn't really require me to need a car often when a bicycle does the job just fine. But I'll get right on that.

As I said, apparently that's a one way trip to pain and suffering and extra hours while they fingerprint you etc JUST to reject you
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Living in Toronto doesn't really require me to need a car often when a bicycle does the job just fine. But I'll get right on that.

As I said, apparently that's a one way trip to pain and suffering and extra hours while they fingerprint you etc JUST to reject you
If you say so. Although I imagine you haven't yet spent a winter in Toronto.

I suppose you could provide a link to the assertion that it takes longer to flagpole on foot (apart from the obvious), but in the greater scheme of things, what does an hour or two matter in this context?
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I've spent three years in Toronto. Cars really aren't everything.
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I've spent three years in Toronto. Cars really aren't everything.
I agree. Except, of course when there has been no investment in public transport on the occasions when it would help.

I'm glad (very glad) that you function in Toronto satisfactorily without a car, but as I mentioned earlier that's no excuse for being unable to drive one.

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I agree. Except, of course when there has been no investment in public transport on the occasions when it would help.

I'm glad (very glad) that you function in Toronto satisfactorily without a car, but as I mentioned earlier that's no excuse for being unable to drive one.

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Old Nov 15th 2014, 4:26 am
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Yeah, seriously. You've single handedly made me NOT want to ask for help from this forum again. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by psynergy
Cars really aren't everything.

They are in January and February when the option is freezing one's arse off at a bus stop.
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I agree. Except, of course when there has been no investment in public transport on the occasions when it would help.

I'm glad (very glad) that you function in Toronto satisfactorily without a car, but as I mentioned earlier that's no excuse for being unable to drive one.

You made your bed, now lie in it.
There are many reasons that someone may not be able to drive (medical reasons being just one). Or maybe they just want to be environmentally friendly. Who knows, but it's no reason to jump all over them like that.
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They are in January and February when the option is freezing one's arse off at a bus stop.
Well OP just said he spent 3 years in Toronto already so I assume he is aware of his options.

Not sure why some people seem to feel the need to try and belittle others because they do not drive for whatever reason.
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Originally Posted by psynergy
I've spent three years in Toronto. Cars really aren't everything.
I'll second that. I kept meaning to get a car when I moved here but never got around to it. I cycle in all but the absolute worst weather and for the rest of the time I use the TTC or, for the occassional trip to Costco, Zipcar. Rather than do the flagpole bit, which can be a bit of a pain if they fill out the paperwork wrong, you could always get the train to Buffalo and do a bit of shopping whilst your at it.
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I landed at Niagara on foot last month... it was super easy.

I walked out on to Rainbow bridge (there is a 50 cent toll), and across to the US border office. I asked the border officer for a rejection, explaining that it was an administrative thing that the Canadian border required for me to re-enter on a PR. I was at the US border for no more than 5 minutes, no fingerprints or anything.

I walked back to the Canadian border, and handed the rejection paper to the border officer, who directed me to the immigration desk.

At the immigration desk, I handed the officer my passport and COPR. They asked me a couple of questions. Then I sat down in the waiting area. 5 minutes later I was called up, and asked to sign the COPR. Then had it stapled into my passport, and I was free to go.

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