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ScottyB Jan 6th 2015 2:18 am

Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Fellow BE members,

I thought I would start a thread where people can list their scores and update others on progress of their Express Entry applications.

Happy to share mine, Admin's please feel free to delete if "timeline" type posts are not encouraged.

Aged 38, MSc degree qualified in Safety and Risk management NOC 1112 (HR Manager which includes HSE Manager)

Unlikely with my score that I will receive an ITA without PNP or Job Offer but who knows what they are looking for.


Express Entry Profile Effective Date

4-January-2015


Express Entry Client Expiry Date

4-January-2016

Opened Job Bank profile same day and showing as active



Overall Score

409


CRS - Human Capital - Age

55


CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education

126


CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency

128


CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency

0


CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience

0


CRS - Spouse - Level of Education

0


CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency

0


CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience

0


CRS - Skill Transferability - Education

50


CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience

50


CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification

0


CRS - Arranged Employment

0


CRS - Provincial/Territorial Nomination

0

doubleym Jan 9th 2015 11:23 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
I was just thinking that it would be good to start a thread like this for people to track EE scores and be able to gauge how they may fall within the pool, nice to see someone already did it :)

I've submitted my profile:

Points: 526
Eligible for CEC and FSWP

Current working in Canada in a permanent role so essentially a job offer however no LMIA yet.

Have been filling out paperwork for BC PNP Express Entry priority stream as a means to getting that extra 600 points however from looking at various forums and reading some articles, it looks like there are not many candidates who have an LMIA supported job offer and many PNP nominees are finding that their PNP nomination isn't usable for points due to that province not having integrated with EE properly yet.

It sounds like CIC are expecting that in the first couple of draws at least, most of the people receiving ITAs will be selected on their base points until the provinces sort things out.

sms1984 Jan 13th 2015 8:54 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Submitted profile Jan 12th 2015

Overall Score 994

CRS - Human Capital - Age 100

CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education 0

CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency 128

CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency 0

CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience 35

CRS - Spouse - Level of Education 6

CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency 20

CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience 5

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education 0

CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience 50

CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification 50

CRS - Arranged Employment 600

CRS - Provincial/Territorial Nomination 0

Bobogib Jan 14th 2015 1:02 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
I wonder at what level they will give you your ITA? Or is this written down somewhere and I just can't find it?

doubleym Jan 14th 2015 1:18 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
There is no set minimum score, it's basically a case of sort everybody in the pool and skim x amount of candidates off the top.

kswoosh Jan 14th 2015 1:18 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
My scores (although haven't processed through EE yet):

Overall Score 506

CRS - Human Capital - Age 110

CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education 120

CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency 136

CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency 0

CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience 40

CRS - Skill Transferability - Language/Education 25

CRS - Skill Transferability - Language/Foreign Work Experience 50

CRS - Skill Transferability - Canadian Work Experience/Foreign Work Experience 50

CRS - Arranged Employment 0

CRS - Provincial/Territorial Nomination 0

So if I was lucky to get an LMIA or PNP (assuming I can get my IEC) then I should be in a pretty good position.

Although bearing in mind what people have said above, regarding the slow progress of PNPs in various territories, I'm inclined to just get my application in ASAP, and try my luck at getting picked out without PNP/LMIA.

Does anyone know a) the frequency of the draws and b) how long you can stay in the pool before having to re-apply/re-enter?

EDIT: Answered my own question: "Candidates can stay in the pool for up to 12 months. If they do not get an Invitation to Apply for permanent residence within 12 months of submitting an Express Entry profile, they may submit a new profile. If they still meet the criteria, they can re-enter the pool. This will prevent backlogs and ensure quick processing times."

Tirytory Jan 14th 2015 1:51 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Can I just ask have you needed official language tests results to complete the initial profile? My husband has his exam on Friday in Toronto and the 20th will mark a year of experience (he has an LMO number)... Would just like to get the whole thing started!!! Impatient now- I wonder how long will PR will take for people- it will be interesting to keep tabs!

sms1984 Jan 14th 2015 2:10 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11533119)
Can I just ask have you needed official language tests results to complete the initial profile? My husband has his exam on Friday in Toronto and the 20th will mark a year of experience (he has an LMO number)... Would just like to get the whole thing started!!! Impatient now- I wonder how long will PR will take for people- it will be interesting to keep tabs!

I would wait as the test results will boost his overall score

doubleym Jan 14th 2015 3:26 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
You need test results to complete the profile.

Tirytory Jan 14th 2015 4:17 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Thank you... I was hoping to have a profile submitted before the first draw but we were a bit tardy booking his english language test. Ho hum!

withabix Jan 14th 2015 8:57 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
The tests are filling up fast. Mine is on 13th February (earliest date I could get a week ago), to convert my existing BC PNP Application into EE.

Probably won't speed up the PNP bit (which should come through in April anyway), but will speed up the CIC bit!

Tirytory Jan 14th 2015 10:18 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 11533537)
The tests are filling up fast. Mine is on 13th February (earliest date I could get a week ago), to convert my existing BC PNP Application into EE.

Probably won't speed up the PNP bit (which should come through in April anyway), but will speed up the CIC bit!

We went for CPEP one or whatever it's called as IELTS were all booked up into February for TO. Luckily date available for Jan 16th. $300 for the privilege of proving English language efficiency while working in the country as a doctor. It's a tad annoying even if I know the rationale behind it!

withabix Jan 14th 2015 10:21 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
I went for the CELPIP as well, as it's only 3 hours rather than a whole day+.

kswoosh Jan 14th 2015 10:57 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Can you submit an application, then add education score and PNP points after? Or do you have to submit an entirely new application?

I.E. If you had IELTS test results, but not had your degree converted or your PNP approved, could you get your application in, and then add the others on later?

PMM Jan 15th 2015 1:02 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Hi


Originally Posted by kswoosh (Post 11533683)
Can you submit an application, then add education score and PNP points after? Or do you have to submit an entirely new application?

I.E. If you had IELTS test results, but not had your degree converted or your PNP approved, could you get your application in, and then add the others on later?


No. ECA and language results must be input for EE

kswoosh Jan 15th 2015 9:16 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by PMM (Post 11533793)
Hi




No. ECA and language results must be input for EE

ECA?

So you have to submit it all in one go, you can add 'new' bits later?

What happens if you have an EE application, then get PNP after, do you have to withdraw your applicaiton for EE, then resubmit it, or can you just amend it?

doubleym Jan 15th 2015 11:41 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by kswoosh (Post 11534148)
ECA?

So you have to submit it all in one go, you can add 'new' bits later?

What happens if you have an EE application, then get PNP after, do you have to withdraw your applicaiton for EE, then resubmit it, or can you just amend it?

I'm pretty sure you don't need your ECA results straight away, you just won't receive points for your education unless you have it.

Unless FSWP requires it then perhaps you'd be prevented from creating a profile since you'd first need to qualify for FSWP.

I know there are people that have created profiles without ECA results so far and you can update them. But you do definitely need your IELTS results to start.

PMM Jan 16th 2015 3:29 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Hi


Originally Posted by doubleym (Post 11535096)
I'm pretty sure you don't need your ECA results straight away, you just won't receive points for your education unless you have it.

Unless FSWP requires it then perhaps you'd be prevented from creating a profile since you'd first need to qualify for FSWP.

I know there are people that have created profiles without ECA results so far and you can update them. But you do definitely need your IELTS results to start.

Please read the instructions you need the ECA and your ielts

doubleym Jan 16th 2015 7:39 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by PMM (Post 11535268)
Hi



Please read the instructions you need the ECA and your ielts

Which instructions?

Fill out your profile – Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

Here it states that you don't require an ECA if you have a year's worth of Canadian Experience (for CEC) or are experienced in a skilled trade (for FSTP).


You will need to take a language test. We will use your test results to see if you are eligible to immigrate to Canada under one of the federal programs that are part of Express Entry.
If you were educated outside Canada, you may need to have your educational credentials assessed against Canadian standards.
This is not mandatory if:
you got at least one year of recent work experience in Canada, or
your work experience is in a skilled trade (skilled manual work).
It then goes on to say that even if you don't require an ECA, you may want to obtain one otherwise you wouldn't receive points for education.

Tirytory Jan 16th 2015 1:14 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by doubleym (Post 11535375)
Which instructions?

Fill out your profile – Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

Here it states that you don't require an ECA if you have a year's worth of Canadian Experience (for CEC) or are experienced in a skilled trade (for FSTP).



It then goes on to say that even if you don't require an ECA, you may want to obtain one otherwise you wouldn't receive points for education.

Of course it does make it clear that the higher amount of points indicate ability to settle in Canada and it does look like they literally go on a points system and no one really knows how many that is, so I think it's wise to go for as many as is technically possible.

doubleym Jan 16th 2015 7:19 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11535664)
Of course it does make it clear that the higher amount of points indicate ability to settle in Canada and it does look like they literally go on a points system and no one really knows how many that is, so I think it's wise to go for as many as is technically possible.

Yes it is obviously better to have the most points possible, my point is that you do not always need ECA results to create your profile in the first place.
Also remember you can update your profile as time goes on, if you're waiting for ECA results but you are able to create a profile without them, there is no downside to submitting the profile in the interim and then updating it with the ECA results later.

Tirytory Jan 16th 2015 8:31 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by doubleym (Post 11536115)
Yes it is obviously better to have the most points possible, my point is that you do not always need ECA results to create your profile in the first place.
Also remember you can update your profile as time goes on, if you're waiting for ECA results but you are able to create a profile without them, there is no downside to submitting the profile in the interim and then updating it with the ECA results later.

Mmm I feel like first go might be anybody's best shot... As it happens for us, my husband needed ECA to be able to work anyway so we have it all ready to go. Hubby is sitting the English language test as I type so just have to wait for results of that and his complete year on the 20th of this month!

doubleym Jan 16th 2015 8:43 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11536212)
Mmm I feel like first go might be anybody's best shot... As it happens for us, my husband needed ECA to be able to work anyway so we have it all ready to go. Hubby is sitting the English language test as I type so just have to wait for results of that and his complete year on the 20th of this month!

That's cool, I meant it more for people that haven't started the ECA process yet or don't have a chance of getting it before the first draw, nothing to lose by getting a profile in just in case :)

Is he doing IELTS or CELPIP? IELTS is quicker at getting the results out I believe, you might just scrape in assuming the draw is at the end of the month? Otherwise you'd be all set for the next one for sure :)

Tirytory Jan 16th 2015 8:48 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by doubleym (Post 11536228)
That's cool, I meant it more for people that haven't started the ECA process yet or don't have a chance of getting it before the first draw, nothing to lose by getting a profile in just in case :)

Is he doing IELTS or CELPIP? IELTS is quicker at getting the results out I believe, you might just scrape in assuming the draw is at the end of the month? Otherwise you'd be all set for the next one for sure :)

CELPIP... I know I'm hoping we scrape in!!! Not sure when first draw is!!

doubleym Jan 16th 2015 9:15 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11536232)
CELPIP... I know I'm hoping we scrape in!!! Not sure when first draw is!!

All the information we have from CIC says the last week of January, we still don't have a solid date.

Tirytory Jan 16th 2015 9:18 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by doubleym (Post 11536256)
All the information we have from CIC says the last week of January, we still don't have a solid date.

Mm it will be close... I know it shouldn't matter to wait an extra month but having made a decision i just want all the tiresome/time consuming paperwork out of the way so we can get on with living especially with a baby on way in March.

Have you sorted out police check etc ? Are you in Canada?

doubleym Jan 16th 2015 9:46 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11536258)
Mm it will be close... I know it shouldn't matter to wait an extra month but having made a decision i just want all the tiresome/time consuming paperwork out of the way so we can get on with living especially with a baby on way in March.

Have you sorted out police check etc ? Are you in Canada?

I'm in Canada now yes, Canadian police checks should be coming back in the next week I believe, UK ones the week after.

ECA/IELTS all done and profile is in the pool so just the waiting game now :)

Tirytory Jan 16th 2015 11:07 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Police checks are only valid for 3 months though aren't they? Was wondering whether we should be asked to apply before sending off- going to get pics and paperwork ready though!!

doubleym Jan 17th 2015 12:48 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11536346)
Police checks are only valid for 3 months though aren't they? Was wondering whether we should be asked to apply before sending off- going to get pics and paperwork ready though!!

Police checks are indeed valid for 3 months, I'm prepping all the documents in the hope of an ITA soon, I want to be able to submit the PR application as soon after that as I can.

siobhannr07 Jan 26th 2015 11:44 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Hi,

I have started to complete my EE profile and I was just hoping for some advice please?

My highest level of edu is a bachelors degree, for which I had an ECA completed, I have entered this into my profile, but do I also need to enter my high school and sixth form education too?

Also what did people out for the work history question where they have asked for the date you became qualified to practice in this occupation? I wasn't sure how to answer this one as I am an admin assistant and so didn't have to complete a course/receive a certificate to do this job, would it be the date my degree was completed or the first day of my first admin job?

Sorry I may just be over analyzing the questions in the profile!!

Many thanks

siobhannr07 Jan 28th 2015 11:49 am

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Hi, sorry for asking another question!

I was hoping for some advice please. I submitted a profile and it came back ineligible. I think I know where I have made the mistake, but it won't let me amend or delete this failed profile.

In MyCIC it just has the profile with an application number attached and says transmitted and will only allow me to view the form.

Is it acceptable for me to create another profile, but under the same MyCIC account? On MyCIC page there is a section that says What Would You Like To Do Today and one of the options is Apply For EE? If I were to select this do I use this is there a way to link up my old failed profile with hopefully the new correct one?

Also when entering the WES ECA report number in to the EE profile is that the WES reference number on the assessment page and without the letters at the end of the reference?

Many thanks!

Tirytory Jan 29th 2015 1:40 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Anybody heard anything about the first draw?

We haven't submitted a profile yet as we forgot to get the actual results of the ECA so have to wait a further 10 days to get them. Good news is that we have the CELPIP results.... Almost perfect score although my husband is actually very cross that he doesn't know where he would have lost the point on the writing section. Hoping we can get a profile in soon!

waltsdog Jan 29th 2015 3:57 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Ministerial Instructions will be posted online and will contain the date and time of each draw, the number of candidates that receive an ITA, and if it applies, which specific immigration program(s) were included in the draw.

From here: Express Entry System

CIC will post it on their site, Canada Gazette and probably on Twitter shortly before it happens. They had planned to do the first draw during the last week of January, however that doesn't look very likely to me at the moment as the Canada Gazette doesn't get published until Saturday or failing that every second Wednesday. But who knows really..

sms1984 Jan 29th 2015 4:41 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11549016)
Anybody heard anything about the first draw?

We haven't submitted a profile yet as we forgot to get the actual results of the ECA so have to wait a further 10 days to get them. Good news is that we have the CELPIP results.... Almost perfect score although my husband is actually very cross that he doesn't know where he would have lost the point on the writing section. Hoping we can get a profile in soon!

I have been checking our profile account daily and no updates for us as of yet, I haven't seen or heard anything from anyone else either. It must have to happen soon though....:fingerscrossed:

doubleym Jan 29th 2015 4:44 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
There has been nothing from CIC.

waltsdog Jan 29th 2015 5:02 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
I tried to post this earlier but it didn't work for some reason: Ministerial Instructions will be posted online and will contain the date and time of each draw, the number of candidates that receive an ITA, and if it applies, which specific immigration program(s) were included in the draw
That's from the CIC website, they will post the draw date on the website and in the Gazette which comes out each Saturday and every other Wednesday.

sms1984 Jan 29th 2015 5:05 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by waltsdog (Post 11549329)
I tried to post this earlier but it didn't work for some reason: Ministerial Instructions will be posted online and will contain the date and time of each draw, the number of candidates that receive an ITA, and if it applies, which specific immigration program(s) were included in the draw
That's from the CIC website, they will post the draw date on the website and in the Gazette which comes out each Saturday and every other Wednesday.

Very helpful thanks :goodpost:

kpower27 Jan 29th 2015 6:03 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
Does anyone know if there is a restriction on the number of classes you can apply under?

I may be missing something but it looks like everyone who meets the requirements for FSW will also meet the requirements for CEC. Does this mean that these applicants will be entered into the draw for both FSW and CEC or are they only entered into one?

sms1984 Jan 29th 2015 6:40 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 

Originally Posted by kpower27 (Post 11549418)
Does anyone know if there is a restriction on the number of classes you can apply under?

I may be missing something but it looks like everyone who meets the requirements for FSW will also meet the requirements for CEC. Does this mean that these applicants will be entered into the draw for both FSW and CEC or are they only entered into one?

We applied under the old rules in December 2014 and if we receive AOR before we hear anything from express entry we will withdraw our express entry profile, similarly if we hear anything from express entry before we get AOR from the old system we will withdraw that application

kpower27 Jan 29th 2015 6:50 pm

Re: Express Entry Scores and Progress Thread
 
I meant more for new applications.
If people are applying now for FSW class through express entry, they will also meet the requirements of the CEC. If they are then entered into the draw for both CEC and FSW they will have a better chance of being invited to apply as they will most likely outrank applicants who only qualify for CEC.
If that is the case then I don't understand why there still are differing classes or requirements.


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