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Old Apr 16th 2023, 3:43 am
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Hello all,

We are looking for some help and advice and have been pointed in the direction of the board 🤞.

We are looking to immigrate to BC, married couple (both age 35) UK citizens from birth (Police analyst and Telecoms trainer), 1 dependant (15 months old) with 1 on the way (due September).

Due to the impending arrival we are looking to be over in Canada around summer 2025. Some questions off the back of this…

Which program best suits us? It seems express entry (federal skilled worker program) would best suit our needs, however we are unclear as to when the best time to start applying would be? We don’t want to start and have any offer lapse before our preferred move date.

Could we please get some advice on;

A. Is this the best program for us?

B. Once approved, how long is it valid for?

C. Does entry via this program gain is permanent residency status? (So we can buy a house etc)

D. Does our first job in Canada have to be in the same field that we are currently working in?

E. Does the express entry method result in a ‘mad rush’ to get over to Canada once accepted? Or can we take some time to plan etc?

Really appreciate any advice you guys can offer.

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Hi, welcome to BE.

1. Whether EE is the best program for you will depend on many factors. Most importantly, what is your CRS score? Are you scoring enough to be successful and invited to apply for PR via EE?

2. Once you've got PR, you have a year to enter Canada from the date of your medical to 'activate' your status, and from that point on you need to spend 2 out of every 5 years in Canada to maintain your PR status.

3. Yep, it's a PR application.

4. No, you can do whatever you wish.

5. As above.

HTH, good luck.
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Hi, welcome to BE.

1. Whether EE is the best program for you will depend on many factors. Most importantly, what is your CRS score? Are you scoring enough to be successful and invited to apply for PR via EE?

2. Once you've got PR, you have a year to enter Canada from the date of your medical to 'activate' your status, and from that point on you need to spend 2 out of every 5 years in Canada to maintain your PR status.

3. Yep, it's a PR application.

4. No, you can do whatever you wish.

5. As above.

HTH, good luck.
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. We haven’t completed our language tests yet and therefore don’t have a CRS score via the CIC website, however someone I got chatting to on a Facebook group has (somehow) been able to calculate a rough score for us based on our NOC codes, education, time in current job and whether we have siblings in Canada; she says we get 393 which she said isn’t enough for EE? Again, it hasn’t been clarified how this has been calculated but she feels the only option for us is to study (which is not something that was even on our radar).

Any further thoughts/hints/tips/magic answers?
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Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. We haven’t completed our language tests yet and therefore don’t have a CRS score via the CIC website, however someone I got chatting to on a Facebook group has (somehow) been able to calculate a rough score for us based on our NOC codes, education, time in current job and whether we have siblings in Canada; she says we get 393 which she said isn’t enough for EE? Again, it hasn’t been clarified how this has been calculated but she feels the only option for us is to study (which is not something that was even on our radar).

Any further thoughts/hints/tips/magic answers?
You don't need to have taken IELTS, just assume max points for now as native speakers, but check the CRS scores yourself to check your own scores. There are other factors such as your age that will influence the score heavily (previous jobs too - not sure why the person you mentioned has only used your current job), so you need to do it yourself really, nobody else can do it for you. Make sure you only use the official test too - https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigr...d/crs-tool.asp

393 wouldn't be anywhere near enough for a FSW application I'm afraid (above approx 470 as a rough guide would be needed to be in with a chance of being selected and invited to apply for PR). But double check your score yourself and let us know what it is. You can see all the recent draws here to get an idea of the scores you'd need - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...ry-rounds.html

Personally, the study permit route would be the absolute last resort, and not one I'd recommend for a family. It's blooming expensive (international tuition fees plus $20k per year of study in your bank account = $$$$), plus only a temporary visa with no guarantee of being able to stay. I'd explore other visa routes first, there are many other ways over (more than 50 to be precise), so I wouldn't go down the study permit route unless you really had no other option.

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You don't need to have taken IELTS, just assume max points for now as native speakers, but check the CRS scores yourself to check your own scores. There are other factors such as your age that will influence the score heavily (previous jobs too - not sure why the person you mentioned has only used your current job), so you need to do it yourself really, nobody else can do it for you. Make sure you only use the official test too -

393 wouldn't be anywhere near enough for a FSW application I'm afraid (above approx 470 as a rough guide would be needed to be in with a chance of being selected and invited to apply for PR). But double check your score yourself and let us know what it is. You can see all the recent draws here to get an idea of the scores you'd need -

Personally, the study permit route would be the absolute last resort, and not one I'd recommend for a family. It's blooming expensive (international tuition fees plus $20k per year of study in your bank account = $$$$), plus only a temporary visa with no guarantee of being able to stay. I'd explore other visa routes first, there are many other ways over (more than 50 to be precise), so I wouldn't go down the study permit route unless you really had no other option.
Thanks for your reply. It’s given us a bit of hope again. However, we have just calculated our points and only get 417 obviously with that total being below the standard you mentioned for EE, we were wondering in your experience, is there another avenue we could take with a score of 417?

We both agree that the study route isn’t an option really.

Thanks again for all your help. It’s massively appreciated.
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Thanks for your reply. It’s given us a bit of hope again. However, we have just calculated our points and only get 417 obviously with that total being below the standard you mentioned for EE, we were wondering in your experience, is there another avenue we could take with a score of 417?

We both agree that the study route isn’t an option really.

Thanks again for all your help. It’s massively appreciated.
The 417 score is only relevant for EE, so there's no other route with that score, it's a no go. So you need to look at other options.

Any particular province you want to go to? Any family/friends in Canada? Any business experience for either of you? What are your NOC codes? https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...tion-code.html
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[QUOTE=christmasoompa;13187757]The 417 score is only relevant for EE, so there's no other route with that score, it's a no go. So you need to look at other options.

Any particular province you want to go to? Any family/friends in Canada? Any business experience for either of you? What are your NOC codes?

we were hoping to be in BC. Vancouver Island in particular. We have no family over there but close friends live in Nanaimo, they will help us with the whole adjustment to the lifestyle etc, but its starting to look like actually getting there is going to be really difficult.

we have both worked continuously since leaving college/university. We wrote our NOC codes down last night but we are out and about at the minute, I will post them when we get home shortly. We both work in jobs classed as TEER1
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NOC Codes: 41310
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[QUOTE=christmasoompa;13187757]The 417 score is only relevant for EE, so there's no other route with that score, it's a no go. So you need to look at other options.

Any particular province you want to go to? Any family/friends in Canada? Any business experience for either of you? What are your NOC codes?

would PNP be an option? Would we both need a job offer or just one of us?
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OK. It seems your only option is a job offer/sponsorship, if BC is where you're after. With the study permit as a back up plan if need be.

Have a read of the Job Hunting section of the Wiki to understand how to go about finding that all important job offer. And do keep an eye on the EE program, as changes are afoot - but nobody yet knows what those changes are.

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OK. It seems your only option is a job offer/sponsorship, if BC is where you're after. With the study permit as a back up plan if need be.

Have a read of the Job Hunting section of the Wiki to understand how to go about finding that all important job offer. And do keep an eye on the EE program, as changes are afoot - but nobody yet knows what those changes are.

Good luck.
Thank you so much for all your help. It’s massively appreciated. I will check out the job wiki.

One more thing if you don’t mind? Is there a place on this forum or do you know of anywhere we can get help with our NOC codes? What we have noticed when looking into the PNP route is that a lot of people believe their NOC code is one thing, only to be told it’s another. We want to get it right.

Thanks again 😊
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Thank you so much for all your help. It’s massively appreciated. I will check out the job wiki.

One more thing if you don’t mind? Is there a place on this forum or do you know of anywhere we can get help with our NOC codes? What we have noticed when looking into the PNP route is that a lot of people believe their NOC code is one thing, only to be told it’s another. We want to get it right.

Thanks again 😊
There's nowhere to get help that I know of, unless you want to pay an immigration lawyer.

But you know your own jobs best, you know what you do on a daily basis for them, so you're the ideal person to say which is the best fit for your job. Just make sure you do at least 50% of the 'main duties' listed, and meet the criteria in the opening paragraph. If so, that should be accepted as your NOC.

Good luck.
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