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Old Aug 6th 2017, 9:40 am
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My partner is Canadian and will be sponsoring me for PR.
We currently live in the UK and will be working here until I get my PR (or close to that time, at least).

According to the Document Checklist, we need to 'provide other documentation showing you can support the person you are sponsoring. This must include a detailed explanation of how you plan to support yourself and the sponsored persons'.

I have a few questions:
- Does anyone have any examples or a template that we could use as a basis for our 'detailed explanation'?

- I assume we need to include photocopies of my partner's payslips (though he will have a new job after we send the application in - so do we mention this in the explanation, especially since it's going to be more money...)?
Also we were planning on photocopying any savings he has here and in Canada. We will also have emails from his Dad saying we can stay with them until we are financially stable enough to support ourselves.
Is there anything else we could / should include as 'other documentation showing that you can support the person you are sponsoring?'

- I have money saved up and I will have money from the sale of my house - even though the question is directed at my partner, since he is the one sponsoring me, would photocopies of this evidence be accepted? In all honesty, I probably have more savings than he does, so we will be using them when we get to Canada, after all!

- In the explanation, we plan on adding that my partner's mum and dad will help support us financially if necessary (we won't be relying on them, but obviously they are there if we need them!) until we both have jobs - do we need to include evidence of this? Emails, for example?

I think that's all of my questions for now... I'll probably think of more!

I think this is the part I am most worried about in the whole application, since they don't give us much to go on!

Thank you for taking the time to read all my questions!
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Originally Posted by emytee
My partner is Canadian and will be sponsoring me for PR.
We currently live in the UK and will be working here until I get my PR (or close to that time, at least).

According to the Document Checklist, we need to 'provide other documentation showing you can support the person you are sponsoring. This must include a detailed explanation of how you plan to support yourself and the sponsored persons'.

I have a few questions:
- Does anyone have any examples or a template that we could use as a basis for our 'detailed explanation'?

- I assume we need to include photocopies of my partner's payslips (though he will have a new job after we send the application in - so do we mention this in the explanation, especially since it's going to be more money...)?
Also we were planning on photocopying any savings he has here and in Canada. We will also have emails from his Dad saying we can stay with them until we are financially stable enough to support ourselves.
Is there anything else we could / should include as 'other documentation showing that you can support the person you are sponsoring?'

- I have money saved up and I will have money from the sale of my house - even though the question is directed at my partner, since he is the one sponsoring me, would photocopies of this evidence be accepted? In all honesty, I probably have more savings than he does, so we will be using them when we get to Canada, after all!

- In the explanation, we plan on adding that my partner's mum and dad will help support us financially if necessary (we won't be relying on them, but obviously they are there if we need them!) until we both have jobs - do we need to include evidence of this? Emails, for example?

I think that's all of my questions for now... I'll probably think of more!

I think this is the part I am most worried about in the whole application, since they don't give us much to go on!

Thank you for taking the time to read all my questions!
I appreciate it!
This is one that has changed recently - it used to be just 'send us proof of your current employment' and payslips etc. Now they are (sensibly) asking how you will support yourself in the critical first few months etc.

No 'templates' as such. They are looking for a game plan in your own words with supporting docs where applicable / available.

I suggest that the explanation you provided here would serve pretty well as a 'game plan'. I suggest you could / should add details of what job your sponsor will be getting in Canada, does he have one lined up already? If so, provide a copy of the job offer. If not, how will he go about getting a job and how long do you expect it to take? Where will you be living when you get there and how will you pay for it. Deffo include copies of savings statements and bank balances etc. Deffo mention Mum and Dad and include letters from them. Where do they live and will you be moving nearby? Will you move in with them initially and for how long etc?

Take a step back and put yourself in the shoes of the CIC clerk who is reading your application. They don't know you, all they will know is what you tell them. If you read your explanation and supporting documents, would you be convinced?
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This is one that has changed recently - it used to be just 'send us proof of your current employment' and payslips etc. Now they are (sensibly) asking how you will support yourself in the critical first few months etc.

No 'templates' as such. They are looking for a game plan in your own words with supporting docs where applicable / available.

I suggest that the explanation you provided here would serve pretty well as a 'game plan'. I suggest you could / should add details of what job your sponsor will be getting in Canada, does he have one lined up already? If so, provide a copy of the job offer. If not, how will he go about getting a job and how long do you expect it to take? Where will you be living when you get there and how will you pay for it. Deffo include copies of savings statements and bank balances etc. Deffo mention Mum and Dad and include letters from them. Where do they live and will you be moving nearby? Will you move in with them initially and for how long etc?

Take a step back and put yourself in the shoes of the CIC clerk who is reading your application. They don't know you, all they will know is what you tell them. If you read your explanation and supporting documents, would you be convinced?
Thanks, that's all really helpful.
What worries me is that, at this point in time, neither of us have a job lined up.

My partner will be aiming to teach, but even having 5 years or so experience in the UK behind him, we are aware this may be difficult. He will be spending this year, while we are still in the UK, looking for and applying for teaching jobs in the Sooke area - but he will not have anything when our application is sent.

I have applied for a teaching certificate in BC but time / cost of the courses I need to take means I probably will not go in that direction, so I will be looking for just about any job to start off with!

Basically, we know we need jobs as our savings will not last forever, and we don't want to reply on his parents, so we are open to taking anything that helps get us settled and gives us an income... After that, then we can look for something we might like a bit more! Will this plan be acceptable, as we have nothing in stone as of yet...?
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Thanks, that's all really helpful.
What worries me is that, at this point in time, neither of us have a job lined up.

My partner will be aiming to teach, but even having 5 years or so experience in the UK behind him, we are aware this may be difficult. He will be spending this year, while we are still in the UK, looking for and applying for teaching jobs in the Sooke area - but he will not have anything when our application is sent.

I have applied for a teaching certificate in BC but time / cost of the courses I need to take means I probably will not go in that direction, so I will be looking for just about any job to start off with!

Basically, we know we need jobs as our savings will not last forever, and we don't want to reply on his parents, so we are open to taking anything that helps get us settled and gives us an income... After that, then we can look for something we might like a bit more! Will this plan be acceptable, as we have nothing in stone as of yet...?
It is certainly not unusual that as you both live outside Canada, you don't have a job lined up. The question is about your sponsor, not you, so you need to confine your answer the him / her.

Your explanation of his experience and that he will start applying shortly in a specific area is fine as far as it goes. It would be better if he can say HOW he will go about looking and when. Is he planning a trip over closer to the time to apply in person (probably a good idea)? What specialist teaching portals or agencies does he know of or is he planning to register with and when? What research has he already done on getting his UK teaching experience recognised in Canada (Canada is 'qualification mad', so it may be that he need to take some exams when he gets there - but demonstrating that you know this and are going about addressing this would be sensible).

I know you don't WANT to rely on parent, but letters from them saying they will support you and perhaps you saying that initially you will move in with them for a few weeks might seem a more appropriate game plan, depending on the amount of his savings.

Just a few ideas.

I think you need to demonstrate that you have done a lot more research before you send your pack in (perhaps you have, I just can't tell from what you have posted).
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It is certainly not unusual that as you both live outside Canada, you don't have a job lined up. The question is about your sponsor, not you, so you need to confine your answer the him / her.

Your explanation of his experience and that he will start applying shortly in a specific area is fine as far as it goes. It would be better if he can say HOW he will go about looking and when. Is he planning a trip over closer to the time to apply in person (probably a good idea)? What specialist teaching portals or agencies does he know of or is he planning to register with and when? What research has he already done on getting his UK teaching experience recognised in Canada (Canada is 'qualification mad', so it may be that he need to take some exams when he gets there - but demonstrating that you know this and are going about addressing this would be sensible).

I know you don't WANT to rely on parent, but letters from them saying they will support you and perhaps you saying that initially you will move in with them for a few weeks might seem a more appropriate game plan, depending on the amount of his savings.

Just a few ideas.

I think you need to demonstrate that you have done a lot more research before you send your pack in (perhaps you have, I just can't tell from what you have posted).
Thanks again! You've given us lots of ideas about what to include and some things we still need to do.

My partner has kept up his BC teaching license while teaching in the UK, so we can contact the districts he plans to teach in and find out if he will need to do anything else before they will consider him for a job / supply.

It probably won't be possible for him to apply in person, as we both teach here so we only have the school holidays. We are planning a trip over in Easter, but this will coincide with the school holiday in Canada, too! Shall we add that information in as well, to show that we have considered it?

When you sat letters from parents - would emails be acceptable or is it better to have something more like a signed paragraph from them?

Sorry to keep adding to my questions - I just want to make sure we get this right.
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Thanks again! You've given us lots of ideas about what to include and some things we still need to do.

My partner has kept up his BC teaching license while teaching in the UK, so we can contact the districts he plans to teach in and find out if he will need to do anything else before they will consider him for a job / supply.

It probably won't be possible for him to apply in person, as we both teach here so we only have the school holidays. We are planning a trip over in Easter, but this will coincide with the school holiday in Canada, too! Shall we add that information in as well, to show that we have considered it?

When you sat letters from parents - would emails be acceptable or is it better to have something more like a signed paragraph from them?

Sorry to keep adding to my questions - I just want to make sure we get this right.
You see you are already adding very important stuff that you have not mentioned in your postings so far (Not trying to 'tell you off' just saying that just because you know this, your CIC officer won't know any of this unless you tell them).

VERY relevant that he has a BC teaching licence and that you plan a trip over. Obviously include a copy of any documentation that proves this. Sure the schools will be closed, but surely the teaching agencies won't be. Look them up on the internet and make contact now I suggest and book meetings in person to coincide with your holidays closer to the time (and say you are going to do this). Has he got a resume (Canadian style) prepared yet? If not then do one and include it as evidence I suggest.

Better to get something signed by the parents I think, a 'to whom it may concern' letter.

The more effort, detail and 'proof' you put into your game plan now, the less likely it is that CIC will ask for more information and so delay your application. You want the CIC officer to read what you have submitted and say 'OK - these people have really thought about this and clearly have a workable plan'.
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... and don't specify a date that your sponsor (and you) intend to move to Canada permanently, a generic 'once my spouse has been granted PR it is our intention to relocate to BC'.

There have been cases where people have been refused due to putting down a specific date - which was a few months after PR would have been granted (which is an unknown quantity), as the requirement is the intention to 'relocate to Canada as soon as PR is granted'.

It would be a good idea to check out the wiki on spousal sponsorship applications..

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spousa...lication_Forms
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spousa...sorship-Canada

and specific to your question > http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spousa...k_to_Canada.3F


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Specific to the idea of teaching in BC .....

..... your partner should be aware of this if he has a BC license, but it is better to approach the school board(s) for the area(s) you and he are interested in. They do the hiring!
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Thanks for everyone's help. We appreciate it!

I think I feel a lot more confident about what we have to write now and we have some ideas about what we need to do to improve our application.
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