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Old May 2nd 2010, 1:46 am
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Myself and my partner are considering using Willis Brazolot to obtain a Canadian Visa as we have been wanting to emigrate to Canada for quite some time now. The only thing that worries us (apart from the £3700 its going to cost us to get the visa!) is that we will not be able to both get a job in Canada which would mean that we will have wasted all that time and money.

I am a stress Engineer within the Aerospace Industry and my partner is a Welder. I know that Canada is not well known for its Aerospace industry and we have no idea if there is a requirement for Welders over there. Obviously Dennis Brazolot has told us that we will have no problem finding employment, however it is in his interest to say that, and really we would like to try and get a feel for what the employment situation is within both our industries before we commit ourselves to obtaining a visa.

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Originally Posted by lisa_247
Myself and my partner are considering using Willis Brazolot to obtain a Canadian Visa as we have been wanting to emigrate to Canada for quite some time now. The only thing that worries us (apart from the £3700 its going to cost us to get the visa!) is that we will not be able to both get a job in Canada which would mean that we will have wasted all that time and money.

I am a stress Engineer within the Aerospace Industry and my partner is a Welder. I know that Canada is not well known for its Aerospace industry and we have no idea if there is a requirement for Welders over there. Obviously Dennis Brazolot has told us that we will have no problem finding employment, however it is in his interest to say that, and really we would like to try and get a feel for what the employment situation is within both our industries before we commit ourselves to obtaining a visa.

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Hi Lisa and welcome to the forum.

Firstly, I'd suggest you do a search of the forum and read what's been said about WB in the past - they're not terribly well thought of I'm afraid!

Secondly, are you aware that the list of 'priority occupations' for Skilled Worker visas is about to change? This means that your partner may not be eligible to apply as a Skilled Worker if his/her occupation is removed from this list when it's revised.

As for jobs, obviously you'd have approx 4 years from the date of obtaining your visa before you actually have to move to Canada, so hopefully plenty of time to find a job offer before you go if you wish. To understand how to go about it, have a read of the Job Hunting section of the Wiki (on blue bar at top of page), which will explain how to go about finding a job in Canada.

Hope that helps, best of luck.
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Hi Lisa
I'd like to 2nd the good advice Chris' has provided above and wanted to ask the £3700 figure you mentioned it that a fully inclusive fee to WB as it's important to note you have certain fees to pay to CHC/CIC direct even if you complete a application yourself ( not far off $3000 with meds etc ) for 2 adults via the fsw route and I would think these will be on top of any fee your IM' agent wants to charge you .
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Originally Posted by lisa_247
Myself and my partner are considering using Willis Brazolot to obtain a Canadian Visa as we have been wanting to emigrate to Canada for quite some time now. The only thing that worries us (apart from the £3700 its going to cost us to get the visa!) is that we will not be able to both get a job in Canada which would mean that we will have wasted all that time and money.

I am a stress Engineer within the Aerospace Industry and my partner is a Welder. I know that Canada is not well known for its Aerospace industry and we have no idea if there is a requirement for Welders over there. Obviously Dennis Brazolot has told us that we will have no problem finding employment, however it is in his interest to say that, and really we would like to try and get a feel for what the employment situation is within both our industries before we commit ourselves to obtaining a visa.

Many thanks

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Unless you have very unusual circumstances then it's highly likely you'll manage to fill out the forms yourself. You should go to the CIC website and take a read through them, they're not complicated.

My husband is a welder, we are looking to move to Alberta as it is the hub for Oil and Gas in Canada.. if you look on different job websites you will see at least a few adverts for welders.

This forum is brilliant, there is usually someone about to offer help and advice.

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A WELDER, this covers a wide range, be a bit more specific and I may be able offer some info or advice. I think Willis Brazalot mainly deals within Ontario but dont be fooled ,they will only put you forward to the next man i.e welding school and headhunter. I researched for hours and hours and finally bingo I found the headhunter, which saved me 7K English. Iv'e been in GTA 2 years now on Work Permit waiting for PR. Mark
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There's a tiny aerospace company in Canada called Bombardier. The probably employ one or two engineers.........
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Thank you for all your advice, and yes I have heard of Bombardier and have a few friends who work there, I just meant that generally, as a country Canada is not well known for its Aerospace work, if I got a job working for Bombardier we're a bit concerned that Darren might not be able to get a job with him not speaking French. Still not really any the wiser about whether there is a demand for our occupations. Dennis was saying that the only way we would get a visa is if we go across on the strength of me being a qualified teacher (which I am but dont want to go back into teaching), so it led me to believe that perhaps there is no demand for Mechanical Engineers. I think we are going to try and put the application in ourselves rather than using WB, we don;t have any unusual circumstances so we're hoping its not going to be too complicated.
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Originally Posted by lisa_247
Thank you for all your advice, and yes I have heard of Bombardier and have a few friends who work there, I just meant that generally, as a country Canada is not well known for its Aerospace work, if I got a job working for Bombardier we're a bit concerned that Darren might not be able to get a job with him not speaking French. Still not really any the wiser about whether there is a demand for our occupations. Dennis was saying that the only way we would get a visa is if we go across on the strength of me being a qualified teacher (which I am but dont want to go back into teaching), so it led me to believe that perhaps there is no demand for Mechanical Engineers. I think we are going to try and put the application in ourselves rather than using WB, we don;t have any unusual circumstances so we're hoping its not going to be too complicated.
You only need 1 years experience in the last 10 years of a job on the list, you can then apply using that occupation but you do not have to do that job when you move. You could apply as a teacher if thats on the list and you have the relevant experience, and then work as an engineer.

What type of welding does your husband do? Welders are on the list so you could apply with your husband as the principal applicant.

It's really a good idea to do some research - look on different job websites, read up on the different immigration routes on the CIC website, if you plan on buying a home then check out mls.ca to see different house prices/styles across Canada.. etc etc

Have a read through the WIKI too, the link is on the blue bar at the top of the page.
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Originally Posted by lisa_247
Dennis was saying that the only way we would get a visa is if we go across on the strength of me being a qualified teacher
Really? Where's the 'incredibly sceptical' smilie when I need it?!? I really can't see how you're going to get a visa from being a teacher unless you teach a specialist subject. Have a read of the following for more info............http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada And I'd also suggest you do a search of the Canada forum for 'teacher' or 'teaching' to find previous threads about teaching in Canada. I'm amazed that he said that, given that you currently have a fairly quick and easy option available to you with a husband who is a welder (the Skilled Worker visa).

As you may have guessed, teachers are really not in demand in Canada, mechanical engineers you would probably have more luck trying to find work (again, do a search of the forum to read threads from other mech engs), and welders are definitely in demand - hence why they're on the list of 38 'occupations in demand' that qualify for a Skilled Worker visa!

But as Kaye suggested, a bit of research will give you the answers you need, so have a good hunt around and read as much as you can. Then you can come back and ask any other questions you have about the visa process etc.

Good luck.
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Again, thank you for your advice. I am a qualified college lecturer which i know is on the list of wanted occupations (specialist subject Engineering). We have done nothing but research onto this for a number of months now and this post was part of our research. At present, there is a demand for what I do in this country and we pretty much rely on my job at the moment financially, however we are led to believe that there is a demand for welders in Canada and with us wanting to start trying for a family within the next few years, we would like Darren to get a decent job so that we dont need to rely on me bringing in a wage, but I would like to work also, and the sole purpose for posting this thread is to just get a feel for what our chances are of getting work out there. Being sarcastic or patronising is not really helping
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Being sarcastic or patronising is not really helping
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Who was that directed to? I can't see any post where anybody has been sarcastic or patronising, just people who have genuinely tried to help you!

The advice to read the Wiki, CIC site, etc, was not sarcasm, just genuine advice! You've posted in the immigration section, which is for visa related questions, so people have assumed that you are at the start of the process, and that you haven't yet done much research, as you didn't seem to know much about visas or the immigration process.

If you are looking for general advice about work in Canada and/or whether your jobs are in demand there, then you need to repost the question in the main Canada forum.

If you read the 'Newbies' thread, you'll then understand which bit of the forum is for what, and get the info you need next time - and hopefully not feel the need to lash out at people who have just tried to help! http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499826

Edit: don't forget that 'the list' of occupations for SW visas is about to change, and lecturers is one of the occupations most likely to be removed from it, so if you do want to apply under your occupation, you may want to get an application in asap. Nobody seems to know about welders though, so they may stay on the list.

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I wasn't lashing out, and I know that all the advice given was good and useful advice and is very much appreciated. I was mainly commenting on the person who said that Bombardier was a "tiny company that may employ one or 2 engineers", I thought that was sarcastic! Your comment about my job not being on the wanted list was misinformed and i'm sorry but it just sounded a little negative thats all, but thank you for the helpful information you did give us.
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Originally Posted by lisa_247
I was mainly commenting on the person who said that Bombardier was a "tiny company that may employ one or 2 engineers", I thought that was sarcastic!
AX may have come across as sarcastic, but I'm sure he meant it as helpful and to point you in the right direction.

Originally Posted by lisa_247
Your comment about my job not being on the wanted list was misinformed
You said you were a mechanical engineer and had previously been a teacher. Neither of those are on the list of occupations in demand. Vocational instructors are of course, on the list (for now at least!), but you did not say you did that initially, hence the response.

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I wasn't lashing out, and I know that all the advice given was good and useful advice and is very much appreciated. I was mainly commenting on the person who said that Bombardier was a "tiny company that may employ one or 2 engineers", I thought that was sarcastic! Your comment about my job not being on the wanted list was misinformed and i'm sorry but it just sounded a little negative thats all, but thank you for the helpful information you did give us.
Mea Culpa, I was being a bit sarcastic. I suppose I've lived in Canada long enough to think that Bombardier is a reasonably sized Aerospace company which of course they are not compared to BAE, Boeing etc. Nevertheless I know that the Commercial Aircraft division is expanding as they gear up for their new C series airliner. ( http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospa...craft/q-series ). I think I've seen posts on here from people who have been offered jobs/are thinking about jobs with Bombardier. Outside of BE, I have myself been asked whether I would be interested in a job in my own field with Bombardier. So it's not unreasonable perhaps to expect an engineer, wanting to work in the aerospace sector in Canada, to have done some research and identified Bombardier as a potential opportunity?

Or of course you could pay WB GB7.5k to do it for you.

Editted to add. You don't say what kind of welding your OH does. If it's big fabrication/pipe stuff then Alberta, or Newfoundland might be potential openings with the oil biz in both places. Further, I imagine there is opportunities for mechanical engineers/stress experts in either place, although I know that Oil and Gas is a tricky sector to break into without the experience. Failing that there are, at least here there are, other jobs for mechanical engineers. I work with a few for example.

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Yes I have obviously researched into this and have applied for numerous jobs at Bombardier with no luck up to present. I am a self employed aerospace engineer with experience working at both BAE and Airbus and am fully aware of Bombardier. My question was does anyone think I would have a chance of getting a job if I had a visa, as I have had no luck getting one without a visa.

My other half is a MIG/TIG welder with a lot of experience in Stainless steel, and some experience in Aluminium. A lot of people have told us exactly what you have said in your last post re. welding opportunities within oil and gas, but we were just wondering if anyone had anymore specific information on whether Darren could actually get a job over there without any previous experience within the oil and gas industry.

Your advice is relevant and helpful, but we were really looking for some more specific information on the employment situation in our areas of expertise.

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