Do I have to take IELTS?

Old Oct 3rd 2003, 6:53 pm
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Ismail
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Default Do I have to take IELTS?

My native language is Arabic; I did my Electrical Engineering from a
university, which has English syllabus.

I have claimed high English proficiency in the immigration
application.

Do still I have to take the IELTS?

Regards,
Ismail Alshelh
 
Old Oct 3rd 2003, 7:16 pm
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Kurakot
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Default Re: Do I have to take IELTS?

From what I've learned from the expert contributors here is that IELTS is
conclusive proof of English language proficiency. If you do not have
proof(s) or unable to substantiate your claim, you may be awarded lesser
points if your native language is not English or French





"Ismail" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > My native language is Arabic; I did my Electrical Engineering from a
    > university, which has English syllabus.
    > I have claimed high English proficiency in the immigration
    > application.
    > Do still I have to take the IELTS?
    > Regards,
    > Ismail Alshelh
 
Old Oct 4th 2003, 2:57 am
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Andrew Miller
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Default Re: Do I have to take IELTS?

Yes, you should if you want to assure number of points for level claimed.

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"Ismail" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > My native language is Arabic; I did my Electrical Engineering from a
    > university, which has English syllabus.
    > I have claimed high English proficiency in the immigration
    > application.
    > Do still I have to take the IELTS?
    > Regards,
    > Ismail Alshelh
 
Old Oct 5th 2003, 1:40 pm
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Default IELTS................to Andrew

Hello exoerts

I have finished my Masters in Computer Science from Australia, can i claim full point for english without IELTS. English is not my native language.


thanks a lot
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 3:51 pm
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Default Re: Do I have to take IELTS?

You may claim, but you may not get maximum as claimed, depending how well
and how conclusively you prove through other evidence that you have high
proficiency in all 4 skills (reading, writing, speaking and listening). And
regardless how good you think evidence is it will not be your decision - it
will be subjective evaluation of officer assessing your evidence in
accordance with Canadian Languages Benchmark:

http://www.language.ca/pdfs/clb_adults.pdf

Fact that you finished education in Australia in itself proves nothing.

The only undisputable proof is IELTS or CELPIP test result.

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"ZON" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Hello exoerts
    > I have finished my Masters in Computer Science from Australia, can
    > i claim full point for english without IELTS. English is not my
    > native language.
    > thanks a lot
    > Zon
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 4:34 pm
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Default Re: Do I have to take IELTS?

Originally posted by Andrew Miller
You may claim, but you may not get maximum as claimed, depending how well
and how conclusively you prove through other evidence that you have high
proficiency in all 4 skills (reading, writing, speaking and listening). And
regardless how good you think evidence is it will not be your decision - it
will be subjective evaluation of officer assessing your evidence in
accordance with Canadian Languages Benchmark:

http://www.language.ca/pdfs/clb_adults.pdf

Fact that you finished education in Australia in itself proves nothing.

*** What makes you so doubtful about someones english proficiency when he finishes his Masters in Australia, which is a English speaking country and all university over there are in english medium???

Now it is clear why canada is so screwed up, whereas USA is so developed ***

The only undisputable proof is IELTS or CELPIP test result.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
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"ZON" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello exoerts
    > I have finished my Masters in Computer Science from Australia, can
    > i claim full point for english without IELTS. English is not my
    > native language.
    > thanks a lot
    > Zon
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 8:40 pm
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Default Re: Do I have to take IELTS?

Andrew is right.

Even if you were to apply for Australia migration, you could well be
asked for IELTS depending on circumstances (eg which university, how
log you studied and live in Australia).

If you are serious about migrating to Canada do yourself a favour and
take the IELTS test.

Jeremy

    >On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:51:52 GMT, "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >You may claim, but you may not get maximum as claimed, depending how well
    >and how conclusively you prove through other evidence that you have high
    >proficiency in all 4 skills (reading, writing, speaking and listening). And
    >regardless how good you think evidence is it will not be your decision - it
    >will be subjective evaluation of officer assessing your evidence in
    >accordance with Canadian Languages Benchmark:
    >http://www.language.ca/pdfs/clb_adults.pdf
    >Fact that you finished education in Australia in itself proves nothing.
    >The only undisputable proof is IELTS or CELPIP test result.
    >--
    >../..
    >Andrew Miller
    >Immigration Consultant
    >Vancouver, British Columbia
    >email: [email protected]
    >(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >________________________________

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