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Old May 8th 2010, 12:54 am
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Applied for twp and criminal rehab (Drink driving in Dec 04, 12 mth ban) at the end of March. Got a call this week to say we have been approved and an e-mail had been sent with all we need to get a twp at port of entry.

When I asked about the criminal rehab, I was told we don't need one. When asked why he said he didn't know . Is this normal, do we not need one for a TWP, are they only need for PR.

Feels like a waste of time and money.
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Originally Posted by oliverjude
Applied for twp and criminal rehab (Drink driving in Dec 04, 12 mth ban) at the end of March. Got a call this week to say we have been approved and an e-mail had been sent with all we need to get a twp at port of entry.

When I asked about the criminal rehab, I was told we don't need one. When asked why he said he didn't know . Is this normal, do we not need one for a TWP, are they only need for PR.

Feels like a waste of time and money.
Maybe because it wasn't actually a criminal conviction? I know most driving offences are civil, not criminal, although have no idea about drink driving.

You should need criminal rehab to enter Canada for anything (even on a visitor visa), so I don't think it's because you're going on a TWP. But maybe it doesn't count as a conviction in CIC's eyes??

No idea I'm afraid, but congrats anyway!
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Maybe because it wasn't actually a criminal conviction? I know most driving offences are civil, not criminal, although have no idea about drink driving.

You should need criminal rehab to enter Canada for anything (even on a visitor visa), so I don't think it's because you're going on a TWP. But maybe it doesn't count as a conviction in CIC's eyes??

No idea I'm afraid, but congrats anyway!
No, it's a criminal offense in Canada. When you apply for PR, they will ask for all the police and court docs.
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Maybe because it wasn't actually a criminal conviction? I know most driving offences are civil, not criminal, although have no idea about drink driving.

You should need criminal rehab to enter Canada for anything (even on a visitor visa), so I don't think it's because you're going on a TWP. But maybe it doesn't count as a conviction in CIC's eyes??

No idea I'm afraid, but congrats anyway!
Drunk Driving, is a criminal offence in Canada not civil (impaired, over .08). So it really doesn't matter how it was classified in the country where it was committed. IMHO whoever phone the OP doesn't or didn't realize that s/he is probably not eligible for rehab until Dec/10 when the 5 years have expired. S/he would not be ineligible if s/he blew less than .08.
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Drunk Driving, is a criminal offence in Canada not civil (impaired, over .08). So it really doesn't matter how it was classified in the country where it was committed. IMHO whoever phone the OP doesn't or didn't realize that s/he is probably not eligible for rehab until Dec/10 when the 5 years have expired. S/he would not be ineligible if s/he blew less than .08.
Thanks for the clarification PMM. So if the person that phoned the OP made a mistake, could that have an impact on them/their TWP/any future PR application?
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Thanks for the clarification PMM. So if the person that phoned the OP made a mistake, could that have an impact on them/their TWP/any future PR application?
Yes, CIC may have made a mistake, but if it is caught by another officer, the Act will be followed.
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Thats what I thought too. Not a good mistake for them to make, and they phoned me twice, checking over my notes both times.

I have sent an e-mail asking about the missing rehab from my TWP approval letter. Would hate to rent house, ship all my stuff and take my family only to be turned away at port of entry, even if I have my letter from CIC approving my TWP.

Thanks for your replys
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Default Re: Criminal rehab confusion!!!!!!

Originally Posted by oliverjude
Thats what I thought too. Not a good mistake for them to make, and they phoned me twice, checking over my notes both times.

I have sent an e-mail asking about the missing rehab from my TWP approval letter. Would hate to rent house, ship all my stuff and take my family only to be turned away at port of entry, even if I have my letter from CIC approving my TWP.

Thanks for your replys
You should get a written response from them just in case something happens later, when you apply for PR. It can prove that you did nothing wrong.
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If you are convicted of Drink driving in any country you have committed an offence, what your reading was is irrellevent. You have broken thier laws.
I was convicted of DD in 2000, my reading was less than the canadian equivelent so if it had been in Canada it would not of been an offence, but after paying a lawyer $2000 to appeal this I was still told to leave Canada at the earliest opportunity. I was inadmissible as I been convicted for this offence in another country.
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