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Old Jul 12th 2013, 10:13 am
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I just received my confirmation of permanent residence letter!

I already reside in Canada (Edmonton) and instructions with the CPR state I have to proceed to a Canadian Port of Entry to obtain my PR status.

Question... can I just drive down to the border, explain what I'm doing, pay visa waiver, cross, turn around and come back immediately to finalize the PR documents? Or will they kick up a fuzz?

I'd like to head down this weekend.
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Originally Posted by superd
I just received my confirmation of permanent residence letter!

I already reside in Canada (Edmonton) and instructions with the CPR state I have to proceed to a Canadian Port of Entry to obtain my PR status.

Question... can I just drive down to the border, explain what I'm doing, pay visa waiver, cross, turn around and come back immediately to finalize the PR documents? Or will they kick up a fuzz?

I'd like to head down this weekend.
Im assuming you have 2 x copies of the COPR document one which has the photo on it. If thats the case then Yes you can drive down to get it done.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Im assuming you have 2 x copies of the COPR document one which has the photo on it. If thats the case then Yes you can drive down to get it done.
Yes, I have two copies, one with a photo.
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Be aware though, if you inform the US Border guards that the only reason you're going to the US is to get your Canadian PR, they will refuse you entry and this will permanently be recorded on your file, so you may want to do some shopping in the US and get PR on the way back as a secondary purpose for your visit.
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Be aware though, if you inform the US Border guards that the only reason you're going to the US is to get your Canadian PR, they will refuse you entry and this will permanently be recorded on your file, so you may want to do some shopping in the US and get PR on the way back as a secondary purpose for your visit.
Thanks for the heads up. I was very curious about this. I might have to make a small vacation out of it then; crossing the border all the way from Edmonton for a few hours of shopping probably wouldn't add up in their eyes.
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Edmonton Airport's an official Port-of-Entry, so can't you just nip down to YEG and do the paperwork there? (Explain that you're acting environmentally responsibly by saving emitting any more CO2 than necessary, by not driving all the way to the US border and back?)


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Originally Posted by vinegarboy
Edmonton Airport's an official Port-of-Entry, so can't you just nip down to YEG and do the paperwork there? (Explain that you're acting environmentally responsibly by saving emitting any more CO2 than necessary, by not driving all the way to the US border and back?)
If only! Unfortunately one must leave and re-enter Canada. I think a cheap get-a-way is in order!
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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
Be aware though, if you inform the US Border guards that the only reason you're going to the US is to get your Canadian PR, they will refuse you entry and this will permanently be recorded on your file, so you may want to do some shopping in the US and get PR on the way back as a secondary purpose for your visit.
At the peace arch (Vancouver) POE - you can turn back just after the USA flag, before even speaking to a US official.

Last time we flag-poled we did this. Is that not the case at all POE's?
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You also have the option to make an appointment at your local CIC office.

CIC’s Call Centre at 1 888 242-2100 to arrange an appointment with the Citizenship and Immigration office nearest to your place of residence

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Originally Posted by siouxie
You also have the option to make an appointment at your local CIC office.

CIC’s Call Centre at 1 888 242-2100 to arrange an appointment with the Citizenship and Immigration office nearest to your place of residence

Thanks. I'll give them a call Monday morning... I've read the waiting times for appointments are long, but it may be worth it to save $xxx on a weekend trip.
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Originally Posted by mikey_c_9
At the peace arch (Vancouver) POE - you can turn back just after the USA flag, before even speaking to a US official.

Last time we flag-poled we did this. Is that not the case at all POE's?
It's not at all of them, but now you mention it I have noticed the "emergency back to Canada" U-Turn at the peace arch before (you can see it on Google maps here: https://maps.google.ca/?ll=49.001017...02073&t=h&z=19). I've not seen it any of the other crossings - the truck crossing for example doesn't have that option.
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From what I could see on Google Maps, between BC and Alberta, the only two boarders with a turn-around-lane are the Peace Arch and Kingsgate.

I called the CIC Call Center to set-up a local appointment and it's an eight week wait. The chap I talked to seemed to encourage flagpoling and had never heard of any problems doing so.

Anyway, I'm off on a short weekend vacation to Coeur d'Alene in two weeks.

Thanks for the response everyone.

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I might be incorrect on this, so someone please feel free to jump in if I'm incorrect, but I believe that you can go down to the border, tell the US border guards what you're up to, and what they will do is give you an "administrative refusal". It's not a black mark, it's not like saying "I was refused entry to the US", all it means is that you officially left Canada but did not enter the US (basically stayed in no-man's-land - a la Edward Snowden), then re-entered Canada for the purposes of activating your PR. Border guards will distinguish between "Administrative refusal" and a regular "Refused entry".
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When I had to get an update on my TWP a year ago, I drove to the pacific truck crossing in Vancouver, parked up at the customs broker and just walked over to the Canada immigration building.

No leaving Canada needed, or even queuing to het to the point you can turn around.

The border guy was actually quite happy we were not wasting US and then another guy in the Canadian booth on the way back time
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Originally Posted by paulhothersall
When I had to get an update on my TWP a year ago, I drove to the pacific truck crossing in Vancouver, parked up at the customs broker and just walked over to the Canada immigration building.

No leaving Canada needed, or even queuing to het to the point you can turn around.

The border guy was actually quite happy we were not wasting US and then another guy in the Canadian booth on the way back time
You got lucky then. Technically you are supposed to leave Canada and seek re-entry by coming back in the usual way by being examined on the Primary Inspection Line. Its not something I advocate others to try lest they get told to actually cross into the USA.
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