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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by FaithC
I recently was in NS visiting, The problem with staying 6 months without work is that with 2 children in tow, they need to be in school. If it was just me i would come just for the 6 months to see what happened. I am now waiting to hear from the college I applied to, to see if I can study as a means to get there, even if it is just for 2 years. Failing that I will have to find someone to pay to marry me, lol
Ah....forgot the children. Sorry.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:04 am
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yep, one is 7 and the other is 16, if I get a work or study permit they are allowed to go to school, otherwise I have to pay for private schooling.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by FaithC
yep, one is 7 and the other is 16, if I get a work or study permit they are allowed to go to school, otherwise I have to pay for private schooling.
Private schools won't take them without a study permit either.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:35 am
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You can't just set up your own business in Canada and start working........I think R I C H went down the self-employed route and managed it.
Yes, I did.

You can sort of turn up and start a business, but it involves risk and commitment.

Immigration told me to make an investment in my proposed business, in order to show commitment to the emigration process, then they offered to review my business proposal and if satisfied would issue a work permit.

I spent close to 5 months establishing the business (arranging a commercial mortgage, purchasing property, finding potential contractors, employees etc and documenting all the progress I was making), then had an interview with immigration who gave me a 3yr TWP.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:43 am
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That's interesting, Thank you!
I'm putting a plan together here in the UK as they give you a lot of help and support here to fund a local business, if they like my idea here I can get it up and running with a view to move it over to Canada? I'm at a workshop in the morning so will see if it is viable!
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by FaithC
I'm putting a plan together here in the UK as they give you a lot of help and support here to fund a local business, if they like my idea here I can get it up and running with a view to move it over to Canada?
It's not that simple - immigration will look at whether the business is likely to deliver 'substantial benefit' to the local community in which you're going to run it. That could mean job creation, $ investment, delivering a new service to the community etc etc. You'll need to be able to prove any/all of the above to their satisfaction. I used an immigration lawyer to assist the process - it's not a simple application, or a usual route for emigration.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by capwn
I'm confused, you say "she really needs to get over to Canada and job hunt in person." That won't increase a job offer will it? because they will still need to pay for an LMO and sort all that out?
She will still need a LMIA, yes, but as I'm sure you're aware being in Canada, when job hunting it's all about 'personal contact'. Frankly, sending CV's (hopefully calling it a resume though!) via the web is going to mean they're not even looked at. To stand any chance, she needs to get out to Canada and job hunt in person to make those all important contacts, or at the very least, pick up the phone. Hopefully by now you've both read the job hunting section of the Wiki and understand how vital it is that she gets out there to knock on doors. Do you have anybody that might be able to help her with a job?

Originally Posted by FaithC
Hi,

I am the sister in question! I have just joined, thanks for the help so far!

I have just applied to a Canadian college in the hope they will let me study there.
Do you have any ideas that might be of use to me?

Many Thanks!
Welcome to BE! A study permit is a great idea, and would certainly get you over there quickly. You'll need a large amount of cash for that route as you wouldn't be able to work much whilst studying, and of course have to show your tuition fees and living expenses up front to get the study permit, but it would at least get you there, and then hopefully (assuming you're doing a degree or similar) you'd also get a Post Graduate Work Permit which might lead to Permanent Residency.

Originally Posted by FaithC
I'm just looking at every possible option, even if it does sound mad! people come here from all over the world and street trade, you just turn up at the border and they let you in!
No they don't - you've been reading the Daily Fail too much! They let anybody from the European Union in, but of course that works both ways and you could up sticks and move to France or Italy tomorrow if you wanted. Believe it or not, it's just as hard for Canadians to move to the UK.

Originally Posted by FaithC
Is it worth paying an immigration specialist? they reckon you don't need a job offer to apply under the federal skilled worker application, my NOC code is 1271, is that right??
I don't really see why you'd need to hire an immi consultant at this stage, most will do a free visa assessment for you (but as somebody that worked for an immi consultant doing visa assessments for years, I can tell you now that from the info you've given so far, they'll tell you that your only options are a job offer or a study permit, which you already know about!).

And yes, you don't need a job offer to apply as FSW but only if you have a job on 'the list' of 50 eligible occupations. 1271 isn't on that list I'm afraid (or the NS PNP list which is a shame). Here it is - Applications we will accept – Federal skilled workers Any experience in any of those jobs?

HTH, good luck!
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 7:14 pm
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Hi,
I am in that list 2172, I got the code wrong! I'm a database Analyst! So how do I go about applying for that??
Also I am selling my house here so will have more than enough funds to prove I can afford relocation and study.
Thanks everyone for the information, it's really helpful!
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by FaithC
Hi,
I am in that list 2172, I got the code wrong! I'm a database Analyst! So how do I go about applying for that??
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Yay! That's great. So you've done that job for a year or more (full-time), and can prove you do the duties listed under that NOC code? And you definitely have enough points? In case you haven't seen it yet, here is the NOC code description - Quick Search - Results

You'll need to show that you meet that criteria and do those duties when you apply. Do also check your points - without a degree or further education of that type, 67 points is usually pretty tricky to achieve, so make sure you've definitely got enough.

How to apply - simply go to the CIC website and download the application pack. You'll need to do it asap though, as the quota could fill at any time and after January the whole system is changing, and it's predicted to be much harder for most to qualify after that date. So download the forms, and the document checklist so you can see what you'd need to supply - the first thing to do is book your IELTS exam, and get your ECA applied for. Then whilst you're waiting for those you can do the rest of the paperwork and order other stuff like your police certs etc.

Originally Posted by FaithC
Hi,
Also I am selling my house here so will have more than enough funds to prove I can afford relocation and study.
That's great, but only if you're applying as a Skilled Worker - for a study permit application, you're not supposed to have immigrant intent, and are supposed to be able to show ties to your home country. So renting your house out would make much more sense, if they see you've sold a property it could be an issue with your study permit app.

And don't forget that if you're applying as a Skilled Worker, that will take around 18 months to get PR via that route, so don't sell it just yet or you may find yourself homeless for a year or so!

HTH, good luck.
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P.S. One thing I should have mentioned earlier, is that your 16 year old wouldn't be able to work at all if you go over on a study permit or Temp Work Permit, so that may be something to consider. Often 16/17 year olds like to have a part-time job but that wouldn't be possible.

Obviously if you go over as a Skilled Worker then s/he'd have PR so be able to work, but I just thought I'd mention it in relation to a TWP/study permit as it may be a factor.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 7:32 pm
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Should I wait and see if I get accepted at college first then? They are assessing my documents at the moment, they said it should be done in a week or 2? I also took an online test and scored 68 points, so just squeezed in by the skin of my teeth! Where do you find the IELTS exams? Sorry for all the questions! Without selling my house I wouldn't have enough funds to study as it's about $15.000. � ����
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My daughter wants to keep studying, I spoke to the school board and they said she would go to high school as she was too young for college, even though here she is at college, she is doing a 90 credit level 3 Diploma.
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Should I wait and see if I get accepted at college first then? They are assessing my documents at the moment, they said it should be done in a week or 2? I also took an online test and scored 68 points, so just squeezed in by the skin of my teeth! Where do you find the IELTS exams? Sorry for all the questions! Without selling my house I wouldn't have enough funds to study as it's about $15.000. ������
If you qualify as a Skilled Worker then I can't see why you'd go on a study permit tbh. As a FSW you'd have the security of PR, plus of course save paying the $15000 (is that only for the course fees? Don't forget you'd also have to show $17000 in your bank account per year of study to qualify for the study permit).

How long and what is the course you want to study? It's a good option if you don't qualify via any other route but tbh I can't see why you'd move you and your children on a temporary visa if you have the option of PR.
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I'm just looking at the quickest option, it's taken me a year to get this far, and getting the court order wasn't easy, so I need to leave ASAP! I will have the equivalent of $108.000 so that should be enough to cover studies, plus I thought once qualified you had the option of staying to use your qualification? Or am I wrong? I have applied for nursing and an MIS Diploma.
How long does the FSW route take?
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by FaithC
I'm just looking at every possible option, even if it does sound mad! people come here from all over the world and street trade, you just turn up at the border and they let you in!
No they don't. It's very difficult to emigrate to the UK if you're not an eligible EU citizen.
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