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Old Sep 29th 2014, 4:17 am
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My sister is currently trying to find a job in Canada and has been forwarding her CV to various companies. Many come back with the following;

At this time, all of our positions are located in Nova Scotia and often require immediate placement. Therefore, we can only consider applications from persons who are presently living in Nova Scotia and ready and available to work.
If/when you do move to Nova Scotia and are interested in administrative opportunities, you are welcome to resubmit your application for review.
What does this mean really? If she just came over as a visitor for 6 months and applied again, surely they wouldn't say 'Oh, she's currently living in Nova Scotia? Sure, we'll consider her for a job."

Am I right in thinking they only consider people who already legally live here and have permits/residency? or when they give these answers are they suggesting that if she were here physically that they would then provide support in getting her a temporary permit?
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My sister is currently trying to find a job in Canada and has been forwarding her CV to various companies. Many come back with the following;



What does this mean really? If she just came over as a visitor for 6 months and applied again, surely they wouldn't say 'Oh, she's currently living in Nova Scotia? Sure, we'll consider her for a job."

Am I right in thinking they only consider people who already legally live here and have permits/residency? or when they give these answers are they suggesting that if she were here physically that they would then provide support in getting her a temporary permit?
'ready and available for work' If she does not have a work permit, she is not ready and available for work.
Fewer employers are hiring foreign workers. It is more likely they mean if she has PR and living in NS she would be considered.
Temporary foreign worker applications drop 74% since new reforms - Politics - CBC News
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 5:03 am
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Am I right in thinking they only consider people who already legally live here and have permits/residency? or when they give these answers are they suggesting that if she were here physically that they would then provide support in getting her a temporary permit?
Sounds to me like it's the former, as Aviator said they've stated they'll only consider applications from those ready to work, and she isn't.

So I'd forget anybody that she gets that response from, she needs to try and find the elusive employer that will pay $1000, wait quite a long time, and go through lots of form filling etc for her.

If she's got specialist skills that would warrant an employer going through that then she's in with a chance - what does she do?
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Thanks for the responses. She worked for over 10 years as a data analyst for the government/council in the UK. So she has some good experience but not much in the way of full term studying and qualifications, which seems to be a standard requirement for a company to obtain a Labour Market Opinion (LMO)?

Is it possible to 'buy' a 2 year work permit? Then in those 2 years apply for permanent residency?
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Is it possible to 'buy' a 2 year work permit? Then in those 2 years apply for permanent residency?
no.
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Default Re: Coming to Canada to work without permit?

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Is it possible to 'buy' a 2 year work permit? Then in those 2 years apply for permanent residency?
I'm not sure what you mean by this? She'd have to 'buy' one, at $155, but first she must get the LMIA (new name for LMO's), after finding an employer prepared to do all of the above. There's no way of her bypassing the LMIA requirement if she's a data analyst.

Once she's got the LMIA, then she'd need to get her TWP, and that's what she'd have to pay for (the $1000 LMIA fee is down to the employer). So in that sense she'd be buying a permit, is that what you mean?

She's not by any chance aged 30 or under is she?
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Nope she's in her mid 30's with two children that she's intending to bring over. She'd be fine with paying $1000 for a permit but from what I understand even if she had $100,000 she couldn't get in because her potential employee would need to provide (and pay for) a case that they are unable to hire a Canadian with the same skills? Which in this case are skills that are not too difficult to come across locally? (For me it was easier as I'm in digital arts, a skill that is harder to come by in my area).
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Nope she's in her mid 30's with two children that she's intending to bring over. She'd be fine with paying $1000 for a permit
The TWP is only $155, the $1000 is for the LMIA, and the employer must pay for that.

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because her potential employee would need to provide (and pay for) a case that they are unable to hire a Canadian with the same skills? Which in this case are skills that are not too difficult to come across locally? (For me it was easier as I'm in digital arts, a skill that is harder to come by in my area).
Exactly. I don't think her chances are good tbh, but if she doesn't qualify for a visa any other way then all she can do is keep trying. Sending her CV would be unlikely to result in anything even if she were in an occupation in demand though, she really needs to get over to Canada and job hunt in person.

You mention her kids, does she have a partner/husband, and if so, has he got skills more in demand? (If she doesn't, then don't forget to mention to her that she'll need her children's father(s) permission to remove them from the UK).

It might be worth her registering her own account on BE so that she can understand the various visa options herself maybe? She could also read the job hunting section of the Wiki, which has loads of useful tips and info.

HTH.

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Default Re: Coming to Canada to work without permit?

Thanks again, have forwarded her a link to this forum.

Also yes, she has legal papers allowing her to bring children to Canada away from her past partner.

I'm confused, you say "she really needs to get over to Canada and job hunt in person." That won't increase a job offer will it? because they will still need to pay for an LMO and sort all that out? She can easily be here for 6 months job hunting as a visitor but she'll face the same problem?
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Default Re: Coming to Canada to work without permit?

Hi,

I am the sister in question! I have just joined, thanks for the help so far!

No i'm not married and have just gone through the British courts to obtain a court order to allow me to bring my children with me to Canada.

I'm just looking for the quickest way to get me into the country so I can live closer to my brother. I have been trying for over a year now.

I have just applied to a Canadian college in the hope they will let me study there.
Do you have any ideas that might be of use to me?

Many Thanks!
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Is it possible to 'buy' a 2 year work permit?
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Unless one responds to that post of a few days ago advertising all sorts of fake documents.
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Unless one responds to that post of a few days ago advertising all sorts of fake documents.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 8:44 am
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Your brother here couldn't sponsor you?
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No, they changed the law in January so you can only sponsor parents and grandparents I think??

Unless I'm wrong??
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i've had truck drivers arrive on visitors permits and try to stay and work and not one succeeded.. Its the new way to try and back door immigration but with the recent clamp down its very unlikely anyone will succeed in staying using this method.
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