Citizenship Question - your experiences
#46
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Joined: Jul 2012
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+1 not me
Ive seen people spend more time studying for their drivers exam than the citizenship test.
Some even complain about having to take the test well you dont if you can wait till you are 55 and apply for it then. Ah but they need that Canadian passport so they can go home and continue working until they retire then come back to Canada and then sponsor other relatives.
True not all do this but a lot do.
Pisses me off when Im presented with a Canadian passport and the holder cannot converse in English or French and not all of these people are over 55 either.
Ive seen people spend more time studying for their drivers exam than the citizenship test.
Some even complain about having to take the test well you dont if you can wait till you are 55 and apply for it then. Ah but they need that Canadian passport so they can go home and continue working until they retire then come back to Canada and then sponsor other relatives.
True not all do this but a lot do.
Pisses me off when Im presented with a Canadian passport and the holder cannot converse in English or French and not all of these people are over 55 either.
#47
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I agree, we studied and did the mock exams online everyday (at least 20 per day) for weeks before and to be honest we both struggled. Read the book, blah, blah. However, if we failed then the whole room did. Honestly most of the people there didn't have English or French as their first language and when asked the pre test questions about residency, passport stamps, dates of travel and even "where are your children in Canada" most of them didn't even understand those questions. We'll see. Put it this way, very pleased we got the PR cards renewed again because at least the $200 and mountains of paperwork were worth it if the Ceremony is going take forever to be upon us.
I almost want the Judge to ask us questions, nope don't know who the first woman was in the House of Commons or who are the modern day famous 7 however does employing 8 Canadians and paying a shed load in personal and business tax count??? I know I'm being facetious, just getting more and more fed up with red tape and expensive, unnecessary bureaucracy in this Country!
I almost want the Judge to ask us questions, nope don't know who the first woman was in the House of Commons or who are the modern day famous 7 however does employing 8 Canadians and paying a shed load in personal and business tax count??? I know I'm being facetious, just getting more and more fed up with red tape and expensive, unnecessary bureaucracy in this Country!
#48
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Failing the citizenship test isnt the end of the world surely, you just carry on as a PR and have to arse around at the US border from time to time.
Its not like they kick you out of the country.
Having said that I'd still be amazed if a native English speaker actually managed it, but feel free to report back and make me eat my words.
Its not like they kick you out of the country.
Having said that I'd still be amazed if a native English speaker actually managed it, but feel free to report back and make me eat my words.
#49
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..couldnt really give a dam about being a citizen for us - its mainly for the kids. Our Canadian friends are shocked. Its more how we got treated - we felt like a criminals to be honest in a detention camp. BC seems to be going down hill fast, stupid politics, crime, 'hit and runs', gang shootings, poor service, bad manners, insane driving, shortage of qualified workers to do the job, sense of entitlement of older generation, laziness, usual issues with a rapidly growing city. People often label the Brits as complainers but I think the Canadians are ten times worse - always complaining or protesting something - i cant believe they ever get anything done! Sometimes we think we live in a third world country and could quote many examples but it gets to a point where you start to question why you are here. We shop across the border not just because its generally cheaper but get far better service than in BC. Oddly enough we find the Americans far more polite than where we live. I guess it may be different in other parts of Canada buts thats we experience where we are. Anyway we are lucky to have freedom of choice - we choose to come here, nobody forced us and we have the choice to go some where else if it doesn't work for us. Anyway its Friday and party time tonight!
#50
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Joined: Oct 2007
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Re: Citizenship Question - your experiences
Here is our timeline..
Our file was acknowledged November 2010.
Processing started October 2011.
File was transferred to the Winnipeg office December 2011.
Citizenship test October 2012 - 2 weeks notice given.
Test was harder than expected for me. Had been reading the study guide (2010 edition) a lot since we got notification of the test date, whereas OH did hardly any reading up and thinks he got 17 or 18. I was the last one to leave the room as I read the questions over and over before circling any answers. Did the ones I was sure about first, then the 50/50 ones and that left me with about 6 that I had no idea on. I reckon a lot of the questions were from newer editions of the study guide.
Paperwork says we have to wait 2-4 months for the outcome. My brother in law and his wife took their test a month before us and did their oath within 6 weeks of the test. Hoping our news is good and that the oath is soon as OH will be away working Feb-April.
Our file was acknowledged November 2010.
Processing started October 2011.
File was transferred to the Winnipeg office December 2011.
Citizenship test October 2012 - 2 weeks notice given.
Test was harder than expected for me. Had been reading the study guide (2010 edition) a lot since we got notification of the test date, whereas OH did hardly any reading up and thinks he got 17 or 18. I was the last one to leave the room as I read the questions over and over before circling any answers. Did the ones I was sure about first, then the 50/50 ones and that left me with about 6 that I had no idea on. I reckon a lot of the questions were from newer editions of the study guide.
Paperwork says we have to wait 2-4 months for the outcome. My brother in law and his wife took their test a month before us and did their oath within 6 weeks of the test. Hoping our news is good and that the oath is soon as OH will be away working Feb-April.
#51
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Except that this is wrong - under the law, spouse applications are not legally combined and they are assessed as individuals. There's also nothing in the CIC Citizenship Manual saying that if a person fails the test, the spouse must also come for an interview ...
#52
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I wondered about that before I took my test, but at the time the web site said all questions would be based on the old study guide, not the new one. I guess they will soon switch to the new one as no-one will have the old guide any more.
#53
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..couldnt really give a dam about being a citizen for us - its mainly for the kids. Our Canadian friends are shocked. Its more how we got treated - we felt like a criminals to be honest in a detention camp. BC seems to be going down hill fast, stupid politics, crime, 'hit and runs', gang shootings, poor service, bad manners, insane driving, shortage of qualified workers to do the job, sense of entitlement of older generation, laziness, usual issues with a rapidly growing city. People often label the Brits as complainers but I think the Canadians are ten times worse - always complaining or protesting something - i cant believe they ever get anything done! Sometimes we think we live in a third world country and could quote many examples but it gets to a point where you start to question why you are here. We shop across the border not just because its generally cheaper but get far better service than in BC. Oddly enough we find the Americans far more polite than where we live. I guess it may be different in other parts of Canada buts thats we experience where we are. Anyway we are lucky to have freedom of choice - we choose to come here, nobody forced us and we have the choice to go some where else if it doesn't work for us. Anyway its Friday and party time tonight!
I wish you luck.
#54
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Also many people are not Canadians so it may not be a fair reflection. However recent surveys did point out that Vancouver was not a very friendly place to live.
We would definitely not go back to UK and thought long and hard. Think it might be the 5 year itch (this is our 5th year)!
Starting to think about a place in the sun to retire - it rains everyday in Vancouver - need the snow to come. My buddy has just flown down to Palm Springs to look for a place.
Your right the user name is a bit outdated and needs to be changed - any idea how to change it?
Friday again time for a wine and more partying this weekend.
Last edited by getoutofbritainquick; Nov 23rd 2012 at 10:13 pm.
#55
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Its true or so we were told unless you write to them and instruct them to consider your applications separately. Not sure what happens to the kids application if you do? All a bit silly when you consider in a few years time we dont have to wriite the test because we will be over 55!!!!! The odd thing was they said that if you fail you may have a second chance but dont count on it because in the 2 years it will take you to see the judge they are considering changing the rules. Not unlike CIC to change the rules is it?
#56
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Not sure what happens to the kids application if you do?
The odd thing was they said that if you fail you may have a second chance but dont count on it because in the 2 years it will take you to see the judge they are considering changing the rules. Not unlike CIC to change the rules is it?
#57
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I am not aware of any provision of the Citizenship Act/Regulations that allows them to combine applications of two spouses, even if they or the applicants want that.
A child's application should normally be granted as long as one parent becomes a Canadian citizen. If one parent becomes Canadian, and the children's application is not granted, the issue would need to be raised with the CIC office processing the case. There is always a chance they would refuse the children's application if their application was attached to that of a parent who failed the test, but that would be unusual if the other parent was Canadian (or becoming Canadian).
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CIC cannot change the Citizenship Act. Only Parliament can do that, however there is a chance they will raise the residence requirement from 3 years to something closer to 5 years in the not too distant future. Usually this should not affect undecided applications already in the system, however the Act may provide otherwise. New Zealand made a similar change a few years ago.
A child's application should normally be granted as long as one parent becomes a Canadian citizen. If one parent becomes Canadian, and the children's application is not granted, the issue would need to be raised with the CIC office processing the case. There is always a chance they would refuse the children's application if their application was attached to that of a parent who failed the test, but that would be unusual if the other parent was Canadian (or becoming Canadian).
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CIC cannot change the Citizenship Act. Only Parliament can do that, however there is a chance they will raise the residence requirement from 3 years to something closer to 5 years in the not too distant future. Usually this should not affect undecided applications already in the system, however the Act may provide otherwise. New Zealand made a similar change a few years ago.
#58
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We had a great experience in Halifax. Staff polite and chatty and told everyone they had passed prior to us showing our paperwork. Last week (a few days short of 2 months) we had a lovely ceremony in Halifax. We were all told we can apply for our Cultural Access Pass which gives us free access to all things cultural across Canada for 12 months. We also get 50% off Via Rail. We are flying out to Vancouver next summer so it will get put to good use.
http://www.icc-icc.ca/en/cap/
http://www.icc-icc.ca/en/cap/
#59
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We had a great experience in Halifax. Staff polite and chatty and told everyone they had passed prior to us showing our paperwork. Last week (a few days short of 2 months) we had a lovely ceremony in Halifax. We were all told we can apply for our Cultural Access Pass which gives us free access to all things cultural across Canada for 12 months. We also get 50% off Via Rail. We are flying out to Vancouver next summer so it will get put to good use.
http://www.icc-icc.ca/en/cap/
http://www.icc-icc.ca/en/cap/
#60
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Re: Citizenship Question - your experiences
I am not aware of any provision of the Citizenship Act/Regulations that allows them to combine applications of two spouses, even if they or the applicants want that.
A child's application should normally be granted as long as one parent becomes a Canadian citizen. If one parent becomes Canadian, and the children's application is not granted, the issue would need to be raised with the CIC office processing the case. There is always a chance they would refuse the children's application if their application was attached to that of a parent who failed the test, but that would be unusual if the other parent was Canadian (or becoming Canadian).
CIC cannot change the Citizenship Act. Only Parliament can do that, however there is a chance they will raise the residence requirement from 3 years to something closer to 5 years in the not too distant future. Usually this should not affect undecided applications already in the system, however the Act may provide otherwise. New Zealand made a similar change a few years ago.
A child's application should normally be granted as long as one parent becomes a Canadian citizen. If one parent becomes Canadian, and the children's application is not granted, the issue would need to be raised with the CIC office processing the case. There is always a chance they would refuse the children's application if their application was attached to that of a parent who failed the test, but that would be unusual if the other parent was Canadian (or becoming Canadian).
CIC cannot change the Citizenship Act. Only Parliament can do that, however there is a chance they will raise the residence requirement from 3 years to something closer to 5 years in the not too distant future. Usually this should not affect undecided applications already in the system, however the Act may provide otherwise. New Zealand made a similar change a few years ago.