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Old Apr 19th 2010, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by gashe4peace
.so you believe that i can submite with out EILTS exam result.. right ?
Yes, as you've been told before, you don't submit your IELTS until requested.

You can see exactly what you send in the initial stages if you download the checklist and guide from the CIC website - just read those and it will all become clear!
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Originally Posted by gashe4peace
Hi christ..
Thank you i will check it.so you believe that i can submite with out EILTS exam result.. right ?
I submitted my application to Sydney NS 2 weeks ago without it. It is not specifically asked for on the application or to be included within the documents to be enclosed to NS.

In the past this is the way things have been done. The confusion has come about as someone found some article on the CIC site which is not really all that clear but suggests that language test results will either be a requirement at the initial stage at some point in the future or is to be brought in now.

As Christmasoompa says, there is a checklist. If it isnt on that I would think that is a clear indication of what they want at the initial stage!
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Old Apr 19th 2010, 1:32 pm
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OK, checked it again for the umpteenth time this morning. Schedule 3 says "provide evidence", but then it also says that in other categories as well, and we all seem quite clear that we don't provide the evidence in the other categories until the Visa office stage.

Instructions STILL say:

"You should not submit your test results or written submission to the Centralized Intake Office (CIO) in Sydney, Nova Scotia Canada. If the application is recommended for further processing, the test results or written submission should be submitted to the responsible Visa Office.
However, it is recommended that all applicants using this category complete their language test(s) or their written submission before submitting their application to the CIO in Sydney so that they know in advance how many language points they will attain on the selection grid."

So it is a recommendation so that you will know how many points you will get, but not essential for the initial submission.

Now, anyone got any bright ideas about how to get our application couriered through a volcanic ash cloud to get to Sydney, when all UK planes are grounded - BEFORE this List changes...?!
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Default Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!

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Instructions STILL say:

"You should not submit your test results or written submission to the Centralized Intake Office (CIO) in Sydney, Nova Scotia Canada. If the application is recommended for further processing, the test results or written submission should be submitted to the responsible Visa Office.
However, it is recommended that all applicants using this category complete their language test(s) or their written submission before submitting their application to the CIO in Sydney so that they know in advance how many language points they will attain on the selection grid."
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CIO in Sydney only assesses the eligibility to apply (Cat 1, 2 or 3) as Skilled Worker, nothing else. They will not look at any evidence other than the one listed in initial checklist for particular category and they will not assess points score. CIO will not forward any evidence to visa post either. It is the visa post where full application will be assessed and where language test results (originals!!!) must go.

Submit to CIO only what is listed in checklist for initial eligibility determination application.
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Default Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!

Has the new list been published yet? I have looked on CIC but cant even see an article about the consutation - sorry if i am being blind - feeling v under weather and brain not working right, so may well be staring it in the face
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Has the new list been published yet? I have looked on CIC but cant even see an article about the consutation - sorry if i am being blind - feeling v under weather and brain not working right, so may well be staring it in the face
No, not yet. The link to the CIC article about the consultations is in my first post on the thread.

And I've now also heard that the 1st May is the date that the new list will be announced and implemented, and that it will be smaller than the current one. I've also heard (from fairly reliable source but not guaranteed!) that construction managers, financial managers and surprisingly, nurses and doctors, are among the professions being removed from the list. But will wait and see if that's correct!
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
No, not yet. The link to the CIC article about the consultations is in my first post on the thread.

And I've now also heard that the 1st May is the date that the new list will be announced and implemented, and that it will be smaller than the current one. I've also heard (from fairly reliable source but not guaranteed!) that construction managers, financial managers and surprisingly, nurses and doctors, are among the professions being removed from the list. But will wait and see if that's correct!
Is the 1st May certain or just rumour? Anything from your source regarding vocational college instructors? We cannot courier our forms until Friday, when one year of employment completed - and now we have to contend with no planes from the UK, so couriers are quoting 5 day delays on top of their normal 4 day service. That will mean our forms won't get there until after 1st May.
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Originally Posted by Kaye5
Is the 1st May certain or just rumour? Anything from your source regarding vocational college instructors? We cannot courier our forms until Friday, when one year of employment completed - and now we have to contend with no planes from the UK, so couriers are quoting 5 day delays on top of their normal 4 day service. That will mean our forms won't get there until after 1st May.
For the sake of £20 or so would it not just be best to chance it and send it in now with the hope it beats any deadline?

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Default Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!

Originally Posted by Kaye5
Is the 1st May certain or just rumour? Anything from your source regarding vocational college instructors? We cannot courier our forms until Friday, when one year of employment completed - and now we have to contend with no planes from the UK, so couriers are quoting 5 day delays on top of their normal 4 day service. That will mean our forms won't get there until after 1st May.
Could you not just send it now? You are supposed to be eligible when you actually apply, but that means when CIC receive it, so if you are a few days short when you send it (but will have done the year when they receive it), then it shouldn't be an issue.

If I were you, I'd send it now so they receive it early next week - by that time, you'll have done your year so it will comply with the requirements, but you'll get it in before 1st May (just in case that date is correct and vocational instructors isn't on the new list).

And the 1st May isn't certain, just what I've been told but that may not be correct.


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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Could you not just send it now? You are supposed to be eligible when you actually apply, but that means when CIC receive it, so if you are a few days short when you send it (but will have done the year when they receive it), then it shouldn't be an issue.

If I were you, I'd send it now so they receive it early next week - by that time, you'll have done your year so it will comply with the requirements, but you'll get it in before 1st May (just in case that date is correct and vocational instructors isn't on the new list).

And the 1st May isn't certain, just what I've been told but that may not be correct.

Yes, we could get it picked up by the courier tomorrow. I can't imagine that a courier would manage to deliver the application before Friday - even though they do quote in normal times 1 - 4 days, they said it would likely be 3 days for normal service. Even if we get it picked up tomorrow, could miss deadline by a day or so if it changes 1st May.

Well, nothing else we can do. Can't turn the clock back or predict volcanic eruptions. Just very upsetting when we have waited this long and possibly miss out being able to apply for a second time because of things out of our control.

Thanks for your support.
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Originally Posted by Kaye5
Yes, we could get it picked up by the courier tomorrow. I can't imagine that a courier would manage to deliver the application before Friday - even though they do quote in normal times 1 - 4 days, they said it would likely be 3 days for normal service. Even if we get it picked up tomorrow, could miss deadline by a day or so if it changes 1st May.
You've got approx 10 days until 1st May, so should be fine if you send it tomorrow, even with a delay.

very tightly crossed for you that the courier can deliver it sometime next week.
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Hi Christmasoompa

I've PM'd you.
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Yes, we could get it picked up by the courier tomorrow. I can't imagine that a courier would manage to deliver the application before Friday - even though they do quote in normal times 1 - 4 days, they said it would likely be 3 days for normal service. Even if we get it picked up tomorrow, could miss deadline by a day or so if it changes 1st May.

Well, nothing else we can do. Can't turn the clock back or predict volcanic eruptions. Just very upsetting when we have waited this long and possibly miss out being able to apply for a second time because of things out of our control.

Thanks for your support.
Use a courier don't use royal mail airsure as I have been sending
mail to a friend over there recently and it's taking 12 days or so
before the volcanic dust.
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Fedex are doing their "next day" service at around 4 working days estimated delivery time. BUT - just heard UK air space now back open, so we MAY be ok...
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Default Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!

Originally Posted by christmasoompa
No, not yet. The link to the CIC article about the consultations is in my first post on the thread.

And I've now also heard that the 1st May is the date that the new list will be announced and implemented, and that it will be smaller than the current one. I've also heard (from fairly reliable source but not guaranteed!) that construction managers, financial managers and surprisingly, nurses and doctors, are among the professions being removed from the list. But will wait and see if that's correct!
oh dear, if financial managers go then might be harder to find work & that is if the rest of mine goes through ok (thankfully already got 120 day email)

I'm assuming your contact was personal rather than published so will wait
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