Aravind M Kulkarni

Hi Everyone,
I have a few questions for the knowledgable crowd here.
I have currently applied for Canadian PR visa and my application has been
accepted in August 2002. How long is it taking to get the PR papers approved
these days ? Also could you address some of my other questions ?

1. Is it true that one can work in US with a canadian PR visa ? My US H1-B
is expiring by the end of 2003. If so I can continue to work here ?
2. Is is possible to get a job before PR appoval so that my chances of
approval are increased ? How is the job situation in Canada ?

Thanks in advance.

Aravind.

Andrew Miller

I assume that you applied through Buffalo - if yes then go here to see what are
current processing times:

h-
ttp://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/menu-en.asp?act=v&mid=5&cat=68&did=1335

As for your other questions -

1. Completely untrue - even Canadian citizens need work visa to work in US. But
why the question in the first place? If you applied for Canadian PR visa it
means you have declared intentions of moving permanently to Canada, living and
working here - are those not your true intentions?

2. It all depends from your qualifications and abilities to look for a job. If
you get a formal job offer from Canada opinionated or validated by HRDC then
you'll get more points.

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../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Aravind M Kulkarni" wrote in message
news:dOwl9.35141$bX.6425@sccrnsc02...
    > Hi Everyone,
    > I have a few questions for the knowledgable crowd here.
    > I have currently applied for Canadian PR visa and my application has been
    > accepted in August 2002. How long is it taking to get the PR papers approved
    > these days ? Also could you address some of my other questions ?
    > 1. Is it true that one can work in US with a canadian PR visa ? My US H1-B
    > is expiring by the end of 2003. If so I can continue to work here ?
    > 2. Is is possible to get a job before PR appoval so that my chances of
    > approval are increased ? How is the job situation in Canada ?
    > Thanks in advance.
    > Aravind.

Jaj

    >On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:09:13 GMT, "Aravind M Kulkarni" wrote:
    >1. Is it true that one can work in US with a canadian PR visa ?

Canadian PR gives you NO work rights at all in the US. None.

I can't understand why this question keeps being asked, it's been
answered umpteen times before.

Jeremy

fireworkz

i read here quite often of people asking if they can work in US when they acquire a Canadian PR..
I feel (generally speaking) that one should give their heart n soul to their new found abode.. why ? Cause they were the ones who have granted you the chance to make a new and good life.. Yes if the US offered this then opt for a US immigration.. Its just not right to use a country as a stepping stone..get what u want then ditch them..Loyalty should be bound / binded with integrity.. Oh well its my view.. maybe others disagree.

Cheerful

Your H1B visa is valid till end-2003 - you can use that to work in the US
till then. However, the burden is on you to prove that you have indeed
taken up residence in Canada and the Canadian PR is not just a 'shell'
document. I have had friends in Windsor who had Canadian PR working with
H1B in Detroit (right, drive across the border every day!!).

"Aravind M Kulkarni" wrote in message
news:dOwl9.35141$bX.6425@sccrnsc02...
    > Hi Everyone,
    > I have a few questions for the knowledgable crowd
here.
    > I have currently applied for Canadian PR visa and my application has been
    > accepted in August 2002. How long is it taking to get the PR papers
approved
    > these days ? Also could you address some of my other questions ?
    > 1. Is it true that one can work in US with a canadian PR visa ? My US H1-B
    > is expiring by the end of 2003. If so I can continue to work here ?
    > 2. Is is possible to get a job before PR appoval so that my chances of
    > approval are increased ? How is the job situation in Canada ?
    > Thanks in advance.
    > Aravind.

Chris

I am one of the very few on this ng that fully agrees with your views.
Sadly, but that's the naked truth!
MOST of the today's immigrants, and over 60% of them are from Asia
(including Middle-East) only, do not come to Canada to become LOYAL
Canadians, heart & soul to use your own words, they just come here to find a
job that is better paid than in their home country. Most of today's
immigrants would easily fall into the EA class of immigration (and this
class is for migrants, NOT immigrants), that's all they want from Canada,
but because it's almost impossible to find a job from outside Canada they
have no choice than to apply for immigration which is obviously a more
costly option (ROLF + settlement funds) than EA. For me these people are by
far a typical case of opportunists, and you cannot expect from them to
become a heart & soul loyal Canadians, ultimately to give their own life for
Canada (but nobody, including myself, would like to see another W.W.II). And
because their only goal is to find a well paid job in Canada, when they
cannot find it they immediately turn their back to Canada starting with
questions about working in the US as a Canadian PR. But many of them do not
even wait to find a job in Canada, they immediately begin searching for a
job in the US. Canada, US, Western Europe, that means nothing for them in
terms of loyalty, the only thing that counts for them is a way, ANY way, to
find a well paid job in their own field. And if they are not able to find
it, instead of looking in the mirror and asking themselves why, they just
start blaming on Canada for their impotence to achieve their goals. I have
read posts with remarks like this one: "How can I get attached to Canada if
I cannot find a job in my own field?", or "Canada should firstly allow us to
find work in our field of expertise and then we will start becoming heart &
soul Canadian PRs".
Integrity? Tell them about it and they will start laughing at you. For them
just one word counts, and that is MONEY. Period.
Chris

"fireworkz" wrote in message
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    > i read here quite often of people asking if they can work in US when
    > they acquire a Canadian PR..
    > I feel (generally speaking) that one should give their heart n soul to
    > their new found abode.. why ? Cause they were the ones who have granted
    > you the chance to make a new and good life.. Yes if the US offered this
    > then opt for a US immigration.. Its just not right to use a country as a
    > stepping stone..get what u want then ditch them..Loyalty should be bound
    > / binded with integrity.. Oh well its my view.. maybe others disagree.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Aravind M Kulkarni

Thank you Mr.Miller and everyone else for replying quickly to my questions.
I see that my first question has touched a sensitive area. But the fact is I
was only trying to find out if a visa is needed, since I might have a chance
of continuing to work with my current employer from Canada even after I get
my Candian PR visa since they have Canadian operations too. Since I might
need to work in US too for short periods, I just wanted to know if I can
work in the US on a Canadian PR or if I need a visa for that. And that would
increase my chances of getting the PR if I already have a job right ?

BTW how does one land a job when applying for the Canadian PR visa when the
processing time is from 14-36 months ? Could someone throw some light on
this topic ?

Thanks again for all your responses.

Aravind.


"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > I assume that you applied through Buffalo - if yes then go here to see
what are
    > current processing times:
h-
ttp://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/menu-en.asp?act=v&mid=5&cat=68&did=1335
    > As for your other questions -
    > 1. Completely untrue - even Canadian citizens need work visa to work in
US. But
    > why the question in the first place? If you applied for Canadian PR visa
it
    > means you have declared intentions of moving permanently to Canada, living
and
    > working here - are those not your true intentions?
    > 2. It all depends from your qualifications and abilities to look for a
job. If
    > you get a formal job offer from Canada opinionated or validated by HRDC
then
    > you'll get more points.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Aravind M Kulkarni" wrote in message
    > [url="news:dOwl9.35141$bX.6425@sccrnsc02"]news:dOwl9.35141$bX.6425@sccrnsc02[-
    > /url]...
    > > Hi Everyone,
    > > I have a few questions for the knowledgable crowd
here.
    > > I have currently applied for Canadian PR visa and my application has
been
    > > accepted in August 2002. How long is it taking to get the PR papers
approved
    > > these days ? Also could you address some of my other questions ?
    > >
    > > 1. Is it true that one can work in US with a canadian PR visa ? My US
H1-B
    > > is expiring by the end of 2003. If so I can continue to work here ?
    > > 2. Is is possible to get a job before PR appoval so that my chances of
    > > approval are increased ? How is the job situation in Canada ?
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    > >
    > > Aravind.
    > >
    > >

fireworkz

Hi Chris. Good to hear from you on this topic. Its so true..
Yes everyone deserves the right and opportunity to come and make canada their home. Why not ! But it is really bad that some of these people are just using canada as a stepping stone ..Unfortunately they spoil the chance for real - deserving cases.. I dont blame them.. but indeed I blame the CIC for allowing such things to go on.. I have heard that alot of such people ..dislike the cold in canada.. hence they usually find illegal means to go back to their own towns and show that they are visible in canada (all in league with their relations there) hence await for the 3 year period to be over - get citizenship .. then hop off to somewhere else... This is outright wrong.. CIC should do something to prevent this sort of Abuse. If one intends to migrate to Canada .. then stay there.. dont abuse the system.. One can wonder where the loyalty of these new found future canadians will be if ever "god forbid" there were a war !! cause their behaviour certainly doesnt depict the pleadge of allegiance..

bighead

its "pledge"...

fireworkz

Hi.. Thks.. common typographical error..

Chris

Unfortunately, you cannot read/control people's minds. One thing they might
say, and other they will do. Nobody confesses in front of an immigration
officer during the interview (but many of them get interview waiver) that
they come to Canada for money only, and in case that IT is not there anymore
they will turn their back against Canada. The only solution would be a lie
detector during the interview. That's mostly a fictional idea, but ROLF is
not. Not knowing how much immigrants will like their new life in Canada,
Canadian government has introduced this ROLF, I think it was in 1995, so if
you turn your back to Canada, going to US or back to your home country, at
least we did not give you free entrance.
But something that can be done is to educate new immigrants, especially
those attending the ESL classes, to adapt to the rules of this society, to
make them feel proud that they live in Canada, in North America. Most of
today's immigrants are from countries with social systems totally different
from the Western ones, and if nobody tries to educate them they will be in
Canada, physically, but in reality they will continue to live like they did
in their home country.
Nevertheless, the Heritage Minister should have a major role in educate
them, but as long as Sheila Copps is still the boss you 'better go fishing'.
Chris

"fireworkz" wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by Chris:
    > > I am one of the very few on this ng that fully agrees with your views.
    > > Sadly........ Tell them about it and they will start laughing at you.
    > > For them
    > > just one word counts, and that is MONEY. Period.
    > > Chris
    > >
    > Hi Chris. Good to hear from you on this topic. Its so true..
    > Yes everyone deserves the right and opportunity to come and make canada
    > their home. Why not ! But it is really bad that some of these people are
    > just using canada as a stepping stone ..Unfortunately they spoil the
    > chance for real - deserving cases.. I dont blame them.. but indeed I
    > blame the CIC for allowing such things to go on.. I have heard that alot
    > of such people ..dislike the cold in canada.. hence they usually find
    > illegal means to go back to their own towns and show that they are
    > visible in canada (all in league with their relations there) hence await
    > for the 3 year period to be over - get citizenship .. then hop off to
    > somewhere else... This is outright wrong.. CIC should do something to
    > prevent this sort of Abuse. If one intends to migrate to Canada .. then
    > stay there.. dont abuse the system.. One can wonder where the loyalty of
    > these new found future canadians will be if ever "god forbid" there were
    > a war !! cause their behaviour certainly doesnt depict the pleadge of
    > allegiance..
    >
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Jean-Claude

It is too bad that Canada's generous immigration policy is being misused. This country is only viewed as a step stone to the US. But our liberal government never litsen to this.

Jean-Claude

What a fallasy that we have the most generous immigration policy of world , but we are hated by our immigrants as they cannot find the fortune they desire here; US has very strict immigration policy, but it is embraced by everybody since the immigrants can more easily prosper there. What I am saying is that we should link our immigration quota to the situation of our job market. When we recruit new immigrants, we should have employment for them. Otherwise, it would be naive to ask them to be "heart and soul" Canadians. If Canada cannot offer jobs for them to feed their family here how can they be "heart and soul"Canadians. Our immigration system should be straight and simple: if you got a job offer, then you come, otherwise, forget about it.