graham1710

I wonder whether we should submit our UK university degrees for proof of language ability, or use our IELTS exam results from the PR application to try and extract as much use from that test as possible. Or both, just to prove how capable we are

Stinkypup

I would do both
Our Medical Degree transcripts apparently weren't sufficient evidence to speak English...

graham1710

Will do. It'll make that money we spent on IELTS feel so much more worthwhile

Graham.

beckiwoo

My biggest worry was CIC making people do the IELTS/CELPIP again for citizenship even after doing it for PR

graham1710

Oh don't even suggest that!! As long as they accept my PR IELTS and/or university degree, I'm happy.

Graham.

PMM

HI


Why} IELTS is enough.

Stinkypup

Yes, what I meant was that the evidence of UK University degree either certificate or transcript is not necessarily enough- the more evidence the better IMO.

graham1710

Yep, I'm thinking I may as well submit both. That saves them asking for either one of them at a later date for any reason.

In any case, still need to wait on things re-opening, but I can get it mostly prepared. Will fill out the current application (hoping it doesn't change) and compare it to see if anything has changed if/when the bill is repealed.

Thanks,

Graham.

scilly

Unfortunately, graduating from a university in an English-speaking country is not always a guarantee that the graduate is actually fluent in English, especially in certain disciplines.

OH is very involved in the graduation ceremonies at the local university, and comes home very despondent at times re the lack of English displayed in, especially, business and computing sciences.

He will be giving directions to a group of ca 250-300 graduating students before they begin to process into the hall, and as many as 75-80% in some ceremonies will not understand even the simplest of instructions (follow the person in front of you).

Those students are commonly of one ethnic group here although some others are also involved, and have managed to graduate somehow.

I'm pretty certain that there are similar happenings in other universities here in Canada and overseas, including the UK, from meeting overseas grads who are unable to communicate fluently.

I've even met some medical graduates, doing residencies, who are less than fluent and barely understandable.

Stinkypup

Yeah, as you can see by our posts, Scilly, clearly both Snoop and I struggle with our English.... British born, British graduated, Worked in UK for a lot of years, I reckon we are fluent enough. I get your point of what you are trying to say but consistency in what is acceptable proof of English competency is clearly lacking at CIC..

Former Lancastrian

What about those born and bred in Yorkshire or are Scousers or Geordies? Do they have a good command of the English language and are understood easily?

Stinkypup

Hmmm You have a point...
That will alienate a fair proportion of the gang

Oh well

We used to live in Fife, we had a mechanic called Alan, very good at his job but I have to say that he would speak probably for around 2 min. and I could understand about 5 words! There goes the Scottish contingent as well

scilly

I'm from Lancashire, went to Liverpool uni (Scouse), taught in Cheshire (unintelligible dialect if get into the villages), also did summer jobs in Devon, Essex etc


had to learn to understand the locals every time I moved

FlyingDutchman6666

The Liberals aren't just repealing C24, they're actually making it easier than before to qualify.

Originally 3/4, the Conservatives introduced 4/6, now the Liberals want to bring it back to 3/5.

(I know you didn't miss this Beckiwoo, but many people do)

Gozit

Are they also repealing the requirement to declare your intention to continue residing in Canada upon naturalisation?