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Old Jul 24th 2020, 2:59 pm
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Default In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Hey guys, I'm currently 7 months into my IEC 2year visa and I'm I've decided that I'd like to stay if possible, I have enough funds and it says I'm eligible to apply but when I'm using the calculator but I'm short on points. Is there anything I can do, any advice?

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Old Jul 24th 2020, 4:46 pm
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Originally Posted by Eterna123
Hey guys, I'm currently 7 months into my IEC 2year visa and I'm I've decided that I'd like to stay if possible, I have enough funds and it says I'm eligible to apply but when I'm using the calculator but I'm short on points. Is there anything I can do, any advice?

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Can you give us a breakdown of your points? Then we can help you work out where you can increase.

Also, what's your job and which province are you in? There may be other options if EE isn't possible.

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Old Jul 24th 2020, 9:42 pm
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Can you give us a breakdown of your points? Then we can help you work out where you can increase.

Also, what's your job and which province are you in? There may be other options if EE isn't possible.
Thanks for the reply, I'm not too sure where to start so let me know if I've missed anything.

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I'm 25
I work in retail
​I have 3+ years of skilled experience outside of canada
No degree but I have a 1 or 2 year course of education after school

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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Originally Posted by Eterna123
Thanks for the reply, I'm not too sure where to start so let me know if I've missed anything.

Ontario
I'm 25
I work in retail
​I have 3+ years of skilled experience outside of canada
No degree but I have a 1 or 2 year course of education after school

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Can you break your actual CRS score down for us though? Give us a copy & paste of it.

And what was the ‘1 or 2 year course’ for education? Will it definitely count for points (i.e. it was academic, not vocational/professional)?

What’s your exact job?
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

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Can you break your actual CRS score down for us though? Give us a copy & paste of it.

And what was the ‘1 or 2 year course’ for education? Will it definitely count for points (i.e. it was academic, not vocational/professional)?

What’s your exact job?

I'm currently working in a legal cannabis dispensary, not as a manager or anything though.
I have a NVQ I think in I.T from a apprenticeship a long time ago.
I haven't taken my language test but I assume I'll pass that one, I took off a few points on the written part as I could possibly make a mistake on that part.

Core/Human capital factors

  • Age = 110
  • Level of education = 98
  • Study in Canada = undefined
  • Official Languages = 133
    • First Official Language = 133
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 341

Spouse factors

  • Level of education = 0
  • First Official Languages = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 0

Skill transferability factors

Education

  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 25
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 25

Foreign work experience

  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 50
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 50

Certificate of qualification = 0

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75

Comprehensive Ranking System formula

Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 416

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 416
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

OK.

Firstly, I'm afraid I think you've given yourself points for education that won't be granted - as above, anything professional or vocational doesn't count for points purposes. So an NVQ is unlikely to get you any points, particularly if it was apprenticeship based rather than classroom based.

But can you give us more info on your job? Sorry to be a pain, but you're really not being specific enough for us to help you! I'm trying to work out if it's a 'skilled' job or not, just saying where you work doesn't help I'm afraid - are you sweeping the shop floor, or a shop assistant, or something else? Can you maybe look up your NOC code and give us that?

I notice you've got no points for a job offer, do you think your employer would want to keep you and do a bit of paperwork to help you get PR?
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

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OK.

Firstly, I'm afraid I think you've given yourself points for education that won't be granted - as above, anything professional or vocational doesn't count for points purposes. So an NVQ is unlikely to get you any points, particularly if it was apprenticeship based rather than classroom based.

But can you give us more info on your job? Sorry to be a pain, but you're really not being specific enough for us to help you! I'm trying to work out if it's a 'skilled' job or not, just saying where you work doesn't help I'm afraid - are you sweeping the shop floor, or a shop assistant, or something else? Can you maybe look up your NOC code and give us that?

I notice you've got no points for a job offer, do you think your employer would want to keep you and do a bit of paperwork to help you get PR?

No need to be sorry, I'm grateful for the help.
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I mainly do basic sales with a little bit of inventory work and cashier stuff. I wonder if the inventory stuff could be classified as skilled in any way? I think my boss would be willing to do some paperwork for me, he's a nice guy.

I put 0 for job offer as it only counts for skilled work right? It's also worth noting that my hours are limited for the time being due to the covid.
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Originally Posted by Eterna123
No need to be sorry, I'm grateful for the help.
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I mainly do basic sales with a little bit of inventory work and cashier stuff. I wonder if the inventory stuff could be classified as skilled in any way? I think my boss would be willing to do some paperwork for me, he's a nice guy.

I put 0 for job offer as it only counts for skilled work right? It's also worth noting that my hours are limited for the time being due to the covid.
In retail you generally will only get skill level B or above if you are a supervisor or provide a specialist skilled service e.g. baker or butcher.

Additionally you need to meet the requirements of one NOC code and use that for an application. You don't need to meet every point on it and your job title doesn't have to match but generally you want to prove that you meet at least 70% of the duties on that NOC code.

You can't pick out bits and bobs from different NOC codes or try to qualify under a skilled code because you do one or two things on that list.
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Hope that helps. Unfortunately from what you've said, my guess is you would be in level C but I'm sure Christmasoompa can confirm one way or another.

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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Retail Sales - NOC 6421 is likely to be a good fit.
https://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3V...V=4&TVD=122372
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

Originally Posted by Eterna123
No need to be sorry, I'm grateful for the help.
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I mainly do basic sales with a little bit of inventory work and cashier stuff. I wonder if the inventory stuff could be classified as skilled in any way? I think my boss would be willing to do some paperwork for me, he's a nice guy.

I put 0 for job offer as it only counts for skilled work right? It's also worth noting that my hours are limited for the time being due to the covid.
Yes, only a skilled job offer counts. I think you need to work out your exact NOC code, does the one Siouxie's given you above match or is there a better fit for your role? You need to make sure it matches what you do as your main job (so the inventory stuff likely won't be helpful anyway, as you say you only do a 'little bit' of it). Have a good search of the NOC and see what NOC(s) may be best and let us know.

If the above NOC is the best fit, is there any way of getting a skilled job sometime soon? A promotion, or moving companies maybe?
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Which Province are you working in - some are easier to get Provincial Nomination for than others.

Do you have your QCW /Cannsell certification - or which ever certification your Province has for selling Cannabis?
Would you be able to apply for an assistant manager position - there are jobs available (would your store owner consider promoting you?)
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Default Re: In Canada on IEC visa, want PR, only 416 points

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Which Province are you working in - some are easier to get Provincial Nomination for than others.

Do you have your QCW /Cannsell certification - or which ever certification your Province has for selling Cannabis?
Would you be able to apply for an assistant manager position - there are jobs available (would your store owner consider promoting you?)
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Hey guys, sorry for the late response,

I'm in ontario and yes I have my cansell, there's little to no chance of me being promoted to assistant manager, maybe a "team leader" position in the future.
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