IT in Canada

Old Mar 23rd 2003, 6:41 pm
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Old Mar 24th 2003, 9:07 am
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Thats an awesome collection

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Old Mar 24th 2003, 2:51 pm
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Speaking about saturated IT market:
This is a hypothetical situation...
What if one with a BS degree in Computer Science goes back to school
for a MBA program in Canada...?
Will one be in demand in Canada if one decides to immigrate to Canada?
Just Food For Thought.
 
Old Mar 25th 2003, 12:32 am
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Can somebody else share his/her thoughts with more substantial
evidences and/or cogent reasons?
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Old Mar 25th 2003, 12:54 am
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depends on the MBA programme. - what university and does it have links to Canadian Companies. Again though wont necessarily guarantee a job in the present climate - plenty of MBAs having difficulty in the states - my friend is doing one from darden $28K a year and in his class there are people who are having problems getting job.

MBA no guarantee of anything at the moment
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Old Mar 25th 2003, 12:57 am
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ABW wrote:
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    > Speaking about saturated IT market:
    > This is a hypothetical situation...
    > What if one with a BS degree in Computer Science goes back to school
    > for a MBA program in Canada...?
    > Will one be in demand in Canada if one decides to immigrate to Canada?
    > Just Food For Thought.

MBA (Master of Business Administration) is essentially a "Degree for
Managers" ... Management is deemed a "transportable skill" ... It is
believed for some unknown reason that if you can manage "a" then as a
trained manager, you could manage "b".

Therefore managers are a dime a dozen, and low and mid-level managers
are also being hit by layoffs. (Many companies are top heavy with mid
to high level management as a result.)

Would it give you an advantage? Yes ... but Not a lot.
 
Old Mar 25th 2003, 3:20 am
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Bottom line: if you have an MBA and applying for a programmer job,
You're MBA might not matter. If the position requires supervisory
roles (project manger, business/system analyst position) or
business/industry related experience, it gives you the edge.
Longer explanation:
While it gives a seemingly edge over applicants that only have a
Bachelor's Degree, It won't guarantee on positions that are highly
structured, with well defined roles. to cite a few, If the job
requires program coding based on specs already defined by
system/business analyst, the MBA does not matter much. I've been to
mtgs where the hiring committe/project managers turned down MBA
applicants for programming positions citing that they need employee to
do the 'grunt work', not someone to second guess their decisions or
introduce a 'better' plan right in the middle of the project. And this
was after the MBA applicant had explicitly expressed during the
interview that they just want to start somewhere. As such recruiters
are savvy enough to simply fill in the position based on job
requirement and of course, budget decisions.
The upside of having an MBA degree, especially if it's application is
well suited to the industry you are applying in, gives you an edge in
aiming for higher position. Which seemed to be more the case ONCE you
are already hired. In the last firm I consulted with, the MBA's had a
faster promotional track to internal openings i.e., project manager,
senior system analyst, business analyst positions than those without
one. MBA's also thrive and get well paid in a booming economy.

An aside to migration: MBA will give you the whole 25 points, 3 points
over a bachelor's degree I think,

[email protected] (Aikido251) wrote in message news:...
    > Absolutely NO difference. NO jobs in Canada.
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    > >ubject: Re: IT in Canada
    > >From: [email protected] (ABW)
    > >Date: 3/24/03 11:51 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    > >Message-id:
    > >
    > >Speaking about saturated IT market:
    > >This is a hypothetical situation...
    > >What if one with a BS degree in Computer Science goes back to school
    > >for a MBA program in Canada...?
    > >Will one be in demand in Canada if one decides to immigrate to Canada?
    > >Just Food For Thought.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Mar 25th 2003, 7:41 am
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I liked more "the lord of the rings" one.


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Old Mar 25th 2003, 11:05 am
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Does anybody want to share (seriously) which MBA programs in Canadian
universities have more links to Canadian companies jobwise...?
Thank You
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 5:11 am
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An MBA from Harvard, Stanford, or MIT will cost overal $60,000/year.
Alas, most MBA programs in the states cost $40,000/year.
Thus, post secondary education in Canada will earn 5 points in
adaptability factor.
Let's stick with Canadian universities who have more links to Canadian
companies jobwise.
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 5:23 am
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80% or more of Canadian trade is with the USA therefore, US MBA is all
important connection to Canada business. Believe me I attended business school
in Canada and even professors here would say a top US MBA is worth more than
Canadian MBA.

    >Subject: Re: IT in Canada
    >From: [email protected] (ABW)
    >Date: 3/26/03 2:11 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >An MBA from Harvard, Stanford, or MIT will cost overal $60,000/year.
    >Alas, most MBA programs in the states cost $40,000/year.
    >Thus, post secondary education in Canada will earn 5 points in
    >adaptability factor.
    >Let's stick with Canadian universities who have more links to Canadian
    >companies jobwise.
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 6:14 am
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If you are impassionned about your opinion its fine. You don't have to bolster it by claiming to have attended business school in canada. Judging by your many inane postings here, I'd say your educational level does not came close to a middling 4th grader.

Originally posted by Aikido251
80% or more of Canadian trade is with the USA therefore, US MBA is all
important connection to Canada business. Believe me I attended business school
in Canada and even professors here would say a top US MBA is worth more than
Canadian MBA.

    >Subject: Re: IT in Canada
    >From: [email protected] (ABW)
    >Date: 3/26/03 2:11 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >An MBA from Harvard, Stanford, or MIT will cost overal $60,000/year.
    >Alas, most MBA programs in the states cost $40,000/year.
    >Thus, post secondary education in Canada will earn 5 points in
    >adaptability factor.
    >Let's stick with Canadian universities who have more links to Canadian
    >companies jobwise.
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Old Mar 26th 2003, 8:27 am
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Aikido251 = MBA = Member of Brainless' Asylum.

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Originally posted by itsmeagain
If you are impassionned about your opinion its fine. You don't have to bolster it by claiming to have attended business school in canada. Judging by your many inane postings here, I'd say your educational level does not came close to a middling 4th grader.
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Old Mar 26th 2003, 9:24 am
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Mr. aikido251
Which MBA program did you attend?
Thank You.
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 10:16 am
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UWO

    >Subject: Re: IT in Canada
    >From: [email protected] (ABW)
    >Date: 3/26/03 6:24 PM Atlantic Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >Mr. aikido251
    >Which MBA program did you attend?
    >Thank You.
 

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